blackbloodtroll
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This is the trick, it's in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide:
of rope as a whip at no penalty. The piece of rope that is
used as a whip must be 10 feet long—length in excess of
this must remain coiled or otherwise unused at your feet
or side.
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If I have the Equipment Trick (rope) feat, and can use the Lash trick, does it count as both a whip, and an improvised weapon, for the purposes of feats and abilities?
I would say if you're using it as a whip, then it's a whip. If you're using it as an improvised weapon, it's not a whip.
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Just to be sure. If used as a whip, it is no longer treated as a rope, or an improvised weapon for anything else?
State your action and your intent.
"I take a standard action to attack. I'm using this rope as a whip."
Make the attack roll, treat the rope as a whip, not as a rope, or improvised, or anything else.
"I take a move action to throw the end of this rope to my friend hanging onto the cliff."
You're (I assume) tossing the rope as a rope, not a whip.
Keep it whichever way you want for the duration of the action in which you're using it that way.
This is all just how I would rule it, as evidenced by the lack of citation. Other DMs may (and probably will) rule otherwise.
-edit- Actually, I would break up the attacks within a full attack. So even though you're performing one action (full attack) you could choose for each attack if it's a whip or a rope.
blackbloodtroll
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Okay, I will give some examples, to see if they apply.
1) Weapon Focus (whip).
2) Rough and Ready trait attack bonus.
3) Breaker Barbarian archetype bonus to damage.
4) Catch Off-Guard feat's ability to catch opponents flat-footed.
5) Improvised Weapon Mastery feat's increased threat range.
6) Prehensile Whip trait.
blackbloodtroll
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I am just saying, because it has been stated that when using it as a whip, it is treated as a whip in all ways. Which would suggest that it would be a suitable target for the magic weapon spell. If that is not true, then even when used as a whip, it still counts as an improvised weapon in some ways. Thus my questioning of what applies when it is used this way.
blackbloodtroll
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This is why I ask indeed. Some feats, class features, traits, or other effects, will apply when using an improvised weapon, and some when using a whip. In this case, it is both, so knowing what, and how these apply, is important. Perhaps one of these said effects provides a bonus to attack rolls with whips, while another provides extra damage to attacks with improvised weapons, now which would apply?