If a mithral breastplate is considered light armor, does this mean its base speed is 30 and not 20?
Mastwork armor reduces the ACP by 1. Mitheral reduces the ACP by 3. Mitheral Breastplate has ACP of 4.
Now here's my question. All mitheral armors are masterwork armors and the 150 gp cost is included in the price. So does mitheral reduce the ACP by 2 but because it's masterwork by default that number is 3 or would mitheral reduce it by 3 and you apply the master work reduction as well.
We've always played that mitheral provides -3 and Master a -4 so you have ACP of 0. Oddly enough I never thought about being no proficient and having ACP 0. So it make me wonder if we have been doing this wrong since the start.
Mastwork armor reduces the ACP by 1. Mitheral reduces the ACP by 3. Mitheral Breastplate has ACP of 4.
Now here's my question. All mitheral armors are masterwork armors and the 150 gp cost is included in the price. So does mitheral reduce the ACP by 2 but because it's masterwork by default that number is 3 or would mitheral reduce it by 3 and you apply the master work reduction as well.
We've always played that mitheral provides -3 and Master a -4 so you have ACP of 0. Oddly enough I never thought about being no proficient and having ACP 0. So it make me wonder if we have been doing this wrong since the start.
Mithral is always masterwork and it's ACP reduction is baked in with the masterwork reduction.
At least, that's what I've been going with.
Mastwork armor reduces the ACP by 1. Mitheral reduces the ACP by 3. Mitheral Breastplate has ACP of 4.
Now here's my question. All mitheral armors are masterwork armors and the 150 gp cost is included in the price. So does mitheral reduce the ACP by 2 but because it's masterwork by default that number is 3 or would mitheral reduce it by 3 and you apply the master work reduction as well.
We've always played that mitheral provides -3 and Master a -4 so you have ACP of 0. Oddly enough I never thought about being no proficient and having ACP 0. So it make me wonder if we have been doing this wrong since the start.
Weapons or armors fashioned from mithral are always masterwork items as well; the masterwork cost is included in the prices given below.
Mithral weapons and armor are always masterwork so the -1 because of masterwork quality is included in the -3 for being mithral.
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Mastwork armor reduces the ACP by 1. Mitheral reduces the ACP by 3. Mitheral Breastplate has ACP of 4.
Now here's my question. All mitheral armors are masterwork armors and the 150 gp cost is included in the price. So does mitheral reduce the ACP by 2 but because it's masterwork by default that number is 3 or would mitheral reduce it by 3 and you apply the master work reduction as well.
We've always played that mitheral provides -3 and Master a -4 so you have ACP of 0. Oddly enough I never thought about being no proficient and having ACP 0. So it make me wonder if we have been doing this wrong since the start.
As everyone else has said. If you want confirmation, here is a link to mithral full plate of speed from the Core Rulebook. Normal full plate has an AC penalty of -6, masterwork full plate has an AC penalty of -5, and this item made of mithral has an AC penalty of -3.
They should put that a little more clear under Mitheral Armor as it's something we just didn't even consider until I saw this thread. As it's left for you to assume since only the price is said to be rolled in. Having to check the magic item section to see example that show that the MW ACP reduction is rolled in not something I'd think to check.
This thread just go me thinking that if you weren't proficient you wouldn't need to with the mitheral breast plate and that just seem wrong. Of course it seems no one in our games ever takes the mitheral breast plate with out being proficient so we never noticed. We just played it as ACP 0 for skills thought that was great.
Yes.
Thanks.