Invisibility and sneak attacks

[gourry187]

I'm not sure if my thought process is warped but ...

Invisible creatures are visually undetectable. An invisible creature gains a +2 bonus on attack rolls against sighted opponents, and ignores its opponents' Dexterity bonuses to AC (if any). See the invisibility special ability.

The rogue's attack deals extra damage (called "precision damage") anytime her target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC (whether the target actually has a Dexterity bonus or not), or when the rogue flanks her target.

So does that mean an invisible rogue attacking gets sneak attack damage?

or if their a difference between "ignores its opponents' Dexterity bonus" and "denied a dexterity bonus"

[Cheapy]

An invisible rogue does get sneak attack on the first attack, if it hits.

A rogue with greater invisibility gets it on all attacks.

[Tilnar]

What Cheapy said -- unless the target has Uncanny Dodge, in which case, they don't lose their AC bonus to the invisible attacker.

[Jeraa]

Quote:

An invisible creature gains a +2 bonus on attack rolls against sighted opponents, and ignores its opponents' Dexterity bonuses to AC (if any). See the invisibility special ability.

An invisible attacker does not "ignore its opponents Dexterity bonus". Someone attacked by an invisible opponent is denied their Dexterity bonus to AC. Page 195, core rulebook, note #2 on the armor class modifier table.

Edit: Though I did just notice another part of the book says that an invisible attacker does ignore the opponents Dexterity bonus to AC. Its all the same, though. Just different wordings.

[jonathan demers]

Cheapy wrote:

An invisible rogue does get sneak attack on the first attack, if it hits.

A rogue with greater invisibility gets it on all attacks.

are you sure about that ? we always played that all his attacks get the sneak attack bonus

we know that invisibility is remove when the first attack is made , but we thought the target would still be denied his Dex to ac versus the guy that was invisible until the target can react (when he get his initiative)
just like in a surprise round when you are considered flat footed until you act

can you point out where we failed in our reasoning ?

ps sorry for the bad english