| AShawen |
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I have a question on the razing weapon ability. when attacking with a earthbreaker against a character who uses shield block would the extra damage be applied to the character too?Since shield block reads that the shield and character take the damage after hardness is applied.
Also, what if they have a shield raised when you attack with a razing weapon. Would the additional damage be applied to the shield only or would the additional damage be applied to the shield and character wielding it
| breithauptclan |
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I haven't looked into it fully, but it feels like Razing would be too powerful if it increased the damage to a character using a shield just because they are using a shield.
To justify that gut instinct reaction:
Razing trait specifies that the damage is increase as you apply damage to the object. So in the case of shield block, that is after reducing the damage by the hardness, and after allocating and quantifying the damage to be dealt to both the creature and the shield separately. Then the damage gets dealt to the creature and the damage allocated to the shield is increased as it is dealt to the shield.
Whenever you deal damage to an object ... with a razing weapon, the object takes an amount of additional damage equal to double the number of weapon damage dice.
| AShawen |
I have a question on the razing weapon ability. when attacking with a earthbreaker against a character who uses shield block would the extra damage be applied to the character too?Since shield block reads that the shield and character take the remaining damage equally after the hardness is applied.
Also, what if they have a shield raised when you attack with a razing weapon. Would the additional damage be applied to the shield only or would the additional damage be applied to the shield and character wielding it
| graystone |
AShawen wrote:I have a question on the razing weapon ability. when attacking with a earthbreaker against a character who uses shield block would the extra damage be applied to the character too?Since shield block reads that the shield and character take the remaining damage equally after the hardness is applied.
Also, what if they have a shield raised when you attack with a razing weapon. Would the additional damage be applied to the shield only or would the additional damage be applied to the shield and character wielding it
Yeah, I'm not sure what the meaning is this post is.
| Baarogue |
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What constitutes an object in PF2?
Does Razing work against a wall of force or a wall of stone? Does it work against a door or a hazard like a trap that is made of materials versus say a haunt? How you do you adjudicate this trait and what it works against?
I don't think this is exactly rocket surgery or an especially nuanced call
| graystone |
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graystone wrote:K. Though I did read it works against animated objects. I'm thinking any creature with a hardness.Deriven Firelion wrote:What constitutes an object in PF2?Pretty much everything physical that doesn't constitute a creature.
I'm thinking the opposite myself as it specifically calls out animated objects when it COULD call out constructs as a whole if that was the actual intent since the entire category "may have Hardness".
That said, it wouldn't bother me if it would cover everything with hardness. It might easier to houserule Razing doing 'Targets with Hardness takes an amount of additional damage equal to double the number of weapon damage dice.'