Recoverable ammo?

[Sowde Da'aro]

So how do i make, say masterwork Shuriken? Or sling bullets? Or arrows?

[blackbloodtroll]

There is the durable arrow from elves of golarion. Make that adamantine for 60gp and have your self an improvised adamantine weapon at first level. Enchantments go away if you shoot it though.

[Sowde Da'aro]

Is there anywhere eles i can find "durable"?
No one in our group has "elves of golarion".

[blackbloodtroll]

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/ammun ition/ammunition-bow-arrow-durable

[Sowde Da'aro]

Sorry the links not working.

[Archaeik]

That's cause it adds spaces when you copy it to the forums
I see it in the first 'ammunition'

answering my own question, finally

Link

[Sowde Da'aro]

Ok that works for arrows... But my DM would say it woulnt work for Shuriken.

[blackbloodtroll]

Get yourself one adamantine shuriken, and use the abundant ammunition spell. If you don't cast, use a wand and UMD it.

[Archaeik]

Abundant Ammunition

at the start of each round this spell replaces any ammunition taken from the container the round before

You need enough ammo to sustain you round to round
But it is a good idea, and what I was going to say

[Lightbulb]

I believe many people say that you can have adamantine arrow heads on normal arrows. You recover the heads and use the Craft skill to make new arrows - this is possible because although the shafts break the heads are fine.

The rules for ammunition on say "normally lost" and 50% chance of lost if they miss. You DM can rule as he likes.

Since shuriken have no fragile component - they are all metal - it would seem reasonable to reuse them (if made from adamantine).

Considering you can buy 300 normal shuriken for the price of a single adamantine shuriken its not exactly that great a deal. Adamantine weapons are automatically masterwork.

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However to make masterwork shuriken you add 6gp per 'unit' of ammunition. I am not clear if this is +6gp per 5 shuriken or per 1 shuriken.

I would rule per 5 else it seems a terrible deal.

[Sowde Da'aro]

Unfortunitly abundent ammunition spell dosent look like an option. My party isnt the helping kind.

[Lightbulb]

Then you pay gold for it.

[Adamantine Dragon]

Making masterwork arrows can be done if you have craft: bow. I would allow craft: shuriken if I were the GM. Then you would just follow the rules for masterwork crafting. Meaning it will cost you 1/2 of (300g + the cost of normal shuriken) to make 50 masterwork shuriken. That means they have a nominal "value" of 6g each. Perhaps you have a skilled craftsman in your town who could make them for you at that price. Otherwise, see if you can get the skill and make them 50 at a time at 150g + the 1/2 the base price.

EDIT: Oops, actually it's 1/3 the cost, not 1/2.

[Cheapy]

You already use Craft(Weapons) for shuriken.

[Adamantine Dragon]

Cheapy wrote:

You already use Craft(Weapons) for shuriken.

Heh, yeah. That.

Funny though that they have "craft: bow" singled out...

[Sowde Da'aro]

Really i just want DR bypassable ranged ammo in plenty.
Maybe just go with a bandolier of daggers (sIlver and cold iron and eventually adamantium).