I am currently in a campaign centered around the city of Absalom located in the Inner Sea. (http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Absalom). The pathfinderwiki can be used for any questions or comments about any geographical reference in this thread. Our party is part of the special forces in the military of Absalom. We were tasked with throwing an iron ball (magic out the ASS but we cant identify what kind of magic specifically) into a rift in the material plane leading into the planes of air, fire, water, and earth. We have successfully thrown an iron ball into both the plane of earth and air. We were searching for the plane of water when we found a podium with this riddle, (note: the game cannot progress until we figure it out so I would love any ideas you guys have)...."The elementals have forsaken us, for we have disrupted the balance. To he who seeks the power of these elements, know that to find and control their power, one must understand the balance of the universe. Air to earth, and earth to air. Earth to water, and water to earth. Water to fire, and fire to water. Where the elements meet is where they are.." The only hints we were given is to use these maps: http://images.wikia.com/pathfinder/images/e/e5/PZO9226-StolenMap.jpg AND http://pathfinder.ormond.us/campaigns/Kingmaker/Maps/Inner%20Sea%20Map.png
The other hint we were given is that it is a geographical place. The layout of the planes in his campaign is only slightly different, the order of it in a radial style so circles going out is Negative=Positive Planes, Then the Material, Shadow, and Ethereal Planes are all equal, then the Plane of Air, then Earth, then Water, then Fire, then Astral.
The location of the plane of Air was at the top of the Kortos Mountains in a city of air elemental type people. Then the plane of Earth was deep underground underneath the Mwangi Expanse's Drowning Stones ruins. We do not know the location of the other two planes. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Maybe a mountain in the desert. Or the Worldwound.
I have some ideas.
Our party is part of the special forces in the military of Absalom.
If you are part of the SOD for Absalom, then ask your Intel guys what they think. . . . if you are the hitters, consult with the thinkers.
We were tasked with throwing an iron ball (magic out the ASS but we cant identify what kind of magic specifically) into a rift in the material plane leading into the planes of air, fire, water, and earth. . . We were searching for the plane of water when we found a podium with this riddle,The elementals have forsaken us, for we have disrupted the balance. . .
Are you sure you know what you are doing? Just asking if you investigated the consequences of throwing some sort of object that you can even ID the magic across the planes . . .
Have you considered going to the Plane of Shadow and asking your counterparts if they have noticed anything wierd or out of balance?
Water to fire sounds like a volcano.
Lastly, there is a reference to nuetrality in there.
Ok, so the plane of Air was on a mountaintop--you know, where air meets earth. And the plane of Earth was under a swamp--you know, where earth meets water.
I don't know Golarian well at all, since I've only been involved with Pathfinder for less than two weeks, but it seems to me that you're looking for places where water meets fire.
Are there any volcanic islands? Underwater volcanic rifts? Hot Springs? Those are the sorts of things I'd look for.
The riddle only gave three clues, though, so maybe the fourth plane will get another riddle. You can't really know, since he didn't pair Fire with anything but water.
Going by where you found the other two planes, It would be safe to say that the Plane of Water would be near a geographical feature that had a decent amount of it. Now, how that water took shape is anyone's buisness. If liquid, that you're going to be spread out all of the world, if Solid, then you head north!
Now, one thing that might be a red herring: The top of a mountain is where the earth and the sky meet, and arguably, a swamp is as close to where the earth and water meet, so finding where Water and Fire meet might actually end up killing two birds with one stone.
I have to agree that fire meeting water would be something like geothermal vents. Steamy areas. Also the riddle stops short of a cycle leading me to believe that you will eventually be looking for a place where fire meets air. Perhaps that will be the volcano.
All excellent ideas. My GM confirms that the cycle being interrupted was part of the riddle and that I'm on the right track. Keep em coming! Thanks to Shizzle69, mplindustries, NeonParrot, and Jeranimus Rex for their help. Sorry to everyone else, my GM is just very specific that our characters can't just know it by checks, we actually have to figure it out.
You could try to look in Cinderlands (fire+air) in Varisia
Or Droskar's crag (very large volcano)
Also excellent suggestions. Karkons idea actually gave me the idea of the connection from air to water. Giant hurricane. Water and wind. If there is a volcano on an island within the eye of Abendigo then by george i think we've done it. But if not I'm still searching.
I'm afraid there is no islands in the Eye of Abendigo only undeads, air elementals, and debris from sunken ships...
Unless your gm has changed it.
He does tend to adjust certain things, but there are islands NEAR the Eye. He said it would be a connection to Air and Water. I currently have 2 spots we're going to investigate. The Cinderlands, and the Eye of Abendigo. Thanks to Karkon and Taesla for the spots. DM says it looks promising. If anyone has any other idea's lemme know
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Where fire meets water... Try an Oasis in a desert. Qadira probably has 2 or three famous ones that simply require a Knowledge Local check, or even Knowledge Geography. This also hints to the end of the campaign. After finding one, try to find the other. Don't throw in the magic orb just yet. If there is too great an imbalance, than Final Fantasy 5 will happen all over again! Who put you up to throwing these orbs in anyway?
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It could be opposing compass points. Absalom and Mwangi are N-NE and S-SW. So Water and Fire could be W-NW and E-SE.
Also the W-NW Steaming Sea suggests fire and water so the Mordant Spire and Hermea are both candidates as are other island chains in the region. Also the sunken land of Azlant suggests water which is the same general location.
The Pit of Gormuz in Eastern Casmaron is E-SE and also supposed to be the prison of the god Rovagug whose stirrings are blamed for volcanic activity.
Does your gm know about this thread? Just curious.
Yes.
Does your gm know about this thread? Just curious.Yes.
^^The GM
I was right eh? eh?
I never give direct answers in my campaigns
I was right eh? eh?I never give direct answers in my campaigns
This is entirely true.
Did you find anything at any of the locations?
There have been some delays due to schedule conflicts and they have been unable to search any of the locations yet. I'll post the answer(s) once they find it(them).