Crossblooded sorcerers worth it?


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Am I right in seeing that a crossblooded sorcerer wouldn't end up getting 2nd level spells until level 5; ending up a full two levels in casting progression behind a standard caster?

I don't see any other way besides going Human with the Sorcerer racial trait to get additional spells known, so you would end up with 0 2nd level spells at level 4, 0 3rd level spells at 6 and so on! Seems a poor tradeoff for a few cheesy abilities.

Shadow Lodge

You see it correctly.

The big thing about Crossblooded is, you have to really want the Bloodline Arcanas. Maybe the Bonus Feat and Class Skill lists. You don't get extra spells or extra feats or extra bloodline powers.

As a result, you hear a lot of people say "Go Fey/Serpentine for one level, then progress as a Wizard."

Really, I think it's generally better to just tighten your character concept. If you want extra powers, go with Eldritch Heritage.

Liberty's Edge

Depends what you mean by worth it. It makes a great dip on a wizard, but as a straight sorcerer, I probably wouldn't do it. (Well, I know I wouldn't do it actually.)

You're right about the 0 spells at the levels, and it sucks. You still get the spell slots of those levels so you can metamagic lower level spells into them for what that matters.


InVinoVeritas wrote:


As a result, you hear a lot of people say "Go Fey/Serpentine for one level, then progress as a Wizard."

Really, I think it's generally better to just tighten your character concept. If you want extra powers, go with Eldritch Heritage.

I've seen this before and really hope Paizo addresses it at some point, since it seems a bit silly that wizards gain more from going a one level dip in a multi class than the class itself does.

All in all, I wonder why they added cross blooded when you can (almost) just as easily take the eldritch heritage feats and get the same abilities without the loss of spell levels over all.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

The extra Bloodline Arcana is completely worth almost any cost. The issue is its even more worth it as a single level dip.

Thing to remember is, you aren't missing the slots for the levels you're missing, so you CAN use metamagic to take advantage of them, which helps once you have the spells you really, really want.

Shadow Lodge

KrispyXIV wrote:
The extra Bloodline Arcana is completely worth almost any cost. The issue is its even more worth it as a single level dip.

I'd argue that all depends on the Arcana. Pick and choose wisely.

ETA: Examples of good choices:

Fey/Serpentine: One of the favorites. Slightly less common is Infernal/Serpentine.
Aberrant/Protean: Long-lasting, hard-to-dispel polymorphs!
Arcane, Boreal, Stormborn, Deep Earth: +DC is good.
Draconic/Elemental: More damage for your chosen type, and it's all your chosen type.

Examples of less generally effective choices:

Starsoul: Dazzled? Really?
Accursed: Most of the time, hags aren't part of the equation.
Rakshasa: Hiding your spellcasting identification doesn't usually matter.


No, no they are not worth it. The only time it would be worth it is if you can sweet-talk your GM into 1 of 2 houserules:
1) you get BOTH the bloodline powers at each level OR
2) Minimum of 1 spell known each level. Still hits you for the same number of spells known in the end, but doesn't cripple the class.


As a level dip? Sure it's worth it, as a single class sorcerer no it isn't.

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