Magic Fang Monk Unarmed Attack

[astura]

Hum, I was wondering does the Magic Fang imbues one hand or other part, or does it imbues all monk´s unarmed attacks? Does anyone know for sure? A reference would be good as well.
Thanks in advance.

[ossian666]

astura wrote:

Hum, I was wondering does the Magic Fang imbues one hand or other part, or does it imbues all monk´s unarmed attacks? Does anyone know for sure? A reference would be good as well.

Thanks in advance.

Its just meant to give you a +1 to attack rolls.

Doesn't matter what kind of body part you use...just gives you that +1 for unarmed strikes.

[astura]

ossian666 wrote:

astura wrote:

Hum, I was wondering does the Magic Fang imbues one hand or other part, or does it imbues all monk´s unarmed attacks? Does anyone know for sure? A reference would be good as well.

Thanks in advance.

Its just meant to give you a +1 to attack rolls.

Doesn't matter what kind of body part you use...just gives you that +1 for unarmed strikes.

Ok, now is the trick question:

Considering Feral Combat Training, does the +1 bonus to unarmed attack apply to all the Feral Combat training natural attacks?

[TOZ]

Magic Fang applies to only one limb, be it a fist or a natural weapon. Greater Magic Fang could enchant all unarmed strikes and natural weapons. If you use Magic Fang to enchant a fist, you do not get the bonus on your natural weapons.

[Grick]

astura wrote:

Considering Feral Combat Training, does the +1 bonus to unarmed attack apply to all the Feral Combat training natural attacks?

Why wouldn't you just cast Magic Fang directly on the natural weapon?

[Darthnny]

TOZ wrote:

Magic Fang applies to only one limb, be it a fist or a natural weapon. Greater Magic Fang could enchant all unarmed strikes and natural weapons. If you use Magic Fang to enchant a fist, you do not get the bonus on your natural weapons.

"Magic fang gives one natural weapon or unarmed strike of the subject a +1 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls. " I would say the caster would need to specify what they are casting on. So if they are casting on the Monk's Unarmed Strike, then when the monk made an unarmed strike then they would get the +1 bonus. Unarmed strike description goes on to describe, "A monk's attack may be with fist, elbows, knees and feat." (Pathfinder Core Rulebook pg 58) So magic fang imbues "Unarmed Strike" not a hand or foot or head...etc.

“Choose one of your natural weapons.” (Ultimate Combat Feral Combat Training Description)

So feral combat training applies to 1 natural weapon. Magic Fang also applies to 1 natural weapon. Please list the natural weapons your character has.

[ossian666]

Grick wrote:

astura wrote:

Considering Feral Combat Training, does the +1 bonus to unarmed attack apply to all the Feral Combat training natural attacks?

Why wouldn't you just cast Magic Fang directly on the natural weapon?

He is trying to see if casting it ONCE will apply to ALL natural attacks AND unarmed strikes.

Don't think this is as it was intended. You kind of have to assign what its being used for the way I read it. So if you make your slam attack more powerful that is all that gets the +1. If you do Unarmed then all unarmed attacks get it, but the claws you hae for natural attacks do not. Comprende?

[Grick]

ossian666 wrote:

He is trying to see if casting it ONCE will apply to ALL natural attacks AND unarmed strikes.

Ah.

If Magic Fang is cast on an Unarmed Strike, that makes it an effect that augments an unarmed strike, and thus can be applied to the natural attack chosen for Feral Combat Training. (Just the one natural attack chosen for FCT, not all of them)

But why? Unless you're making iterative strikes and a secondary natural weapon attack, it doesn't really do much. And if you're doing all that without flurry you're sort of crippled anyway. Still, it's cheesy, and is pretty much what the alternate GMF is for. I would go with RAW OK, RAI No Way.