Daze question


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Just a couple of quick questions,

If something is "stun immune" does that also make it daze immune?

Ear piercing scream requires a fort save, in contruct traits it says that it is immunity to anything requiring a fort save unless it works on on object. So would ear piercing scream work on golems/undead


brentdyer wrote:


If something is "stun immune" does that also make it daze immune?

Dazed: The creature is unable to act normally. A dazed creature can take no actions, but has no penalty to AC. A dazed condition typically lasts 1 round.

Stunned: A stunned creature drops everything held, can't take actions, takes a –2 penalty to AC, and loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any).

Different conditions, so I don't think so.

brentdyer wrote:
Ear piercing scream requires a fort save, in contruct traits it says that it is immunity to anything requiring a fort save unless it works on on object. So would ear piercing scream work on golems/undead

Ear-Piercing Scream: Target one creature

Does not work on objects, is not harmless. So you can scream at a golem.


"Grick"[url=http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateMagic/spells/earPiercingScream.html wrote:

Ear-Piercing Scream[/url]: Target one creature

Does not work on objects, is not harmless. So you can scream at a golem.

...but won't get any effect.

Non-object, non-harmless -> won't work on undead and constructs at all.

Now, a GM might be consider the sonic damage (Fort half) to apply (like the good old Sound Lance did)... but... the spell allows Spell Resistance, which, in case of a Golem target means 'Forget it.'.


Midnight_Angel wrote:


Non-object, non-harmless -> won't work on undead and constructs at all.

That's what I was trying to say, I just rolled a 1 on my Convert Rules to Post check. Thanks for fixing it.


Grick wrote:
I just rolled a 1 on my Convert Rules to Post check.

Ah, so 'Convert Rules to Post' is a skill that autofails on a 1... *ducks for cover*

Grick wrote:
Thanks for fixing it.

NP :)

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