Diego Rossi
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Prehensile Hair (Su): The witch can instantly cause her hair (or even her eyebrows) to grow up to 10 feet long or to shrink to its normal length, and can manipulate her hair as if it were a limb with a Strength score equal to her Intelligence score. Her hair has reach 10 feet, and she can use it as a secondary natural attack that deals 1d3 points of damage (1d2 for a Small witch). Her hair can manipulate objects (but not weapons) as dexterously as a human hand. The hair cannot be sundered or attacked as a separate creature. Pieces cut from the witch's elongated hair shrink away to nothing. Using her hair does not harm the witch's head or neck, even if she lifts something heavy with it. The witch can manipulate her hair a number of minutes each day equal to her level; these minutes do not need to be consecutive, but must be spent in 1-minute increments. A typical male witch with this hex can also manipulate his beard, moustache, or eyebrows.
I have 2 doubts about this witch Hex:
1) The hair should be always used as a secondary attack, even when the witch is attacking only with them or they are a kind of natural attack that can be used, with the usual malus of being treated as a secondary attack, in conjunction regular attacks or alone and at full attack bonus?
2) they can be used to deliver a touch range spell?
I am favourable to say that they can be used as a primary natural attack if used alone and that they can deliver touch spells, but I want to hear what people will say pro and against that and especially why as there can be problems I am not seeing.
| KaeYoss |
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1) It's a secondary attack. No exceptions to the rules about secondary attacks are noted in the ability. But it's likely that it is supposed to not get the "only natural weapon" rule.
2) As far as I know, you can deliver touch spells via natural weapons as well as your hands (otherwise, naga and similar weird spellcasters would have a problem)
You didn't ask the most important questions about this hex, though:
1) What kind of patron is Madama Butterfly? (I'd say shadow, for obvious reasons)
2) Why doesn't the hex allow you to turn your hair into a leather suit or act as a portal to summon demonic forces? Is there a follow-up hex for that?
3) Where are the rules for alternate potions in lollipop form? Or shoe-mounted weapons?
| Grick |
1) The hair should be always used as a secondary attack, even when the witch is attacking only with them or they are a kind of natural attack that can be used, with the usual malus of being treated as a secondary attack, in conjunction regular attacks or alone and at full attack bonus?
Natural Attacks: "If a creature has only one natural attack, it is always made using the creature's full base attack bonus and adds 1-1/2 the creature's Strength bonus on damage rolls."
For example, a Hoof is a secondary attack. But if all you have is a Hoof, it's primary. I don't see Hair as being any different.
2) they can be used to deliver a touch range spell?
Yes, while Holding the Charge: "Alternatively, you may make a normal unarmed attack (or an attack with a natural weapon) while holding a charge... If the attack hits, you deal normal damage for your unarmed attack or natural weapon and the spell discharges."
I could see it being reasonable to rule that the initial 'free' touch attack granted as part of casting could also be delivered with an unarmed strike or natural weapon, however, that is not stated in the rules.
| GâtFromKI |
2) Why doesn't the hex allow you to turn your hair into a leather suit or act as a portal to summon demonic forces? Is there a follow-up hex for that?
Because you would wear your leather suit only min/day?
Anyway, Bayoneta isn't the first fiction character with prehensile hairs. She use the trope in new ways, but the trope doesn't come from her.
Maxximilius
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1) It's a secondary attack. No exceptions to the rules about secondary attacks are noted in the ability. But it's likely that it is supposed to not get the "only natural weapon" rule.
2) As far as I know, you can deliver touch spells via natural weapons as well as your hands (otherwise, naga and similar weird spellcasters would have a problem)
You didn't ask the most important questions about this hex, though:
1) What kind of patron is Madama Butterfly? (I'd say shadow, for obvious reasons)
2) Why doesn't the hex allow you to turn your hair into a leather suit or act as a portal to summon demonic forces? Is there a follow-up hex for that?
3) Where are the rules for alternate potions in lollipop form? Or shoe-mounted weapons?
Best. Videogame. Ever.
... I need to do a Umbra witch archetype now.
| KaeYoss |
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Yes, I'm talking about Bayonetta, the witch from the game of the same name.
Her hair is magic - she usually wears it as a leather suit. She can also use it to open a gate to Inferno to channel demons to attack her angelic enemies. The fun part, of course, is that when her hair does that, it doesn't do the clothes part.
She has other powers, too: Turn into a number of animals, use four weapons at once (stuff like bazooka-tonfas which contain the spirit of captive demons), summon medieval torture devices to kill angels, trade banter with the Virtues before killing them and make boyish reporters uncomfortable.
Oh, and her attacks' damage is, as I mentioned, measured in gigatons.
"If you bring me enough halos, maybe I can buy myself a ticket to space. Always wanted to be a bald space marine."
Maxximilius
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Yes, I'm talking about Bayonetta, the witch from the game of the same name.
Her hair is magic - she usually wears it as a leather suit. She can also use it to open a gate to Inferno to channel demons to attack her angelic enemies. The fun part, of course, is that when her hair does that, it doesn't do the clothes part.
She has other powers, too: Turn into a number of animals, use four weapons at once (stuff like bazooka-tonfas which contain the spirit of captive demons), summon medieval torture devices to kill angels, trade banter with the Virtues before killing them and make boyish reporters uncomfortable.
Oh, and her attacks' damage is, as I mentioned, measured in gigatons.
"If you bring me enough halos, maybe I can buy myself a ticket to space. Always wanted to be a bald space marine."
You forgot the part about Colossal++ sized angelic bosses, epic musics of neverending awesomeness, thrown scyscrapers, orbital laser cannon strikes, crawling a rocket flying straight to space with a motorcycle, and the "Infinite gigatons" final punch.
Best.
F$@%ing.
Videogame.
F&%&ing.
Ever.
Blayde MacRonan
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I actually thought of the opera-like kung-fu flick, The Bride With White Hair, upon seeing this hex for the first time (the character concept was revisited in the Jet Li/Jackie Chan team-up movie, The Forbidden Kingdom). Didn't really think of Bayonetta at the time, but I should have. Great game...hope they do a sequel.
That said, I'm looking forward to doing up my own version as a whip-wielding hexcrafter magus for my players to encounter. Could be fun for them...definitely will be for me.
| KaeYoss |
You forgot the part about Colossal++ sized angelic bosses
Nope. Mentioned her beating up the Cardinal Virtues. Which were the bosses.
Courteous buggers, those. Blessing you just as they're eaten by archdemons.
"May Jubileus, the Creator, grace you!"
Did you know that the magic bubble she spews is actually an ancient language?
epic musics of neverending awesomeness
That is true. That stuff is part of my RPG soundtrack.
, thrown scyscrapers, orbital laser cannon strikes, crawling a rocket flying straight to space with a motorcycle, and the "Infinite gigatons" final punch.
We also forgot the enemies. Celestial critters, all of them. Angels, if you will.
But not the modern nonsense, with fat little kids shooting arrows or pretty boy-girls. Stuff that looks like right out of the bible. Wheels with eyes all over? Check. An upside down child's face with dragon heads growing out of the ears? You bet!
And, despite all the rampant sexism (though, to be honest, make Bayonetta feel the slightest bit objectified and you're in trouble.) and fan service, not to mention the nice brutality and action, the story is actually quite cool.