I'm looking for a way to turn a blackblade into another type of weapon, specifically a gauntlet.
any thoughts short of house ruling it ?
EDIT: Followup Question
Here's a followup question though, if your holding a weapon e.g. a blade in a hand your also wearing a gauntlet can you make an unarmed attack while still holding the weapon
like if your holding the weapon and instead of slashing you punch someone.
And if that's the case could you use a combiantion of slashing and unarmed strikes with the same hand as part of an attack routine if your BAB is high enough ?
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Short of house-ruling it, no. It says that the black blade MUST be a blade. However, I happen to think that's a dumb restriction (from a mechanical standpoint).
That said, if you could figure out how much it should cost, you could give it a magic property to change shape into other weapons (+1 equivalent, transformative), but by current RAW even that only gets you one-handed weapons (since the blade must also be one-handed, and gauntlet is light, and transformative keeps the weapon the same wield category).
mmmm that about what I thought. (fabricate won't work on magic weapons)
Here's a followup question though, if your holding a weapon e.g. a blade in a hand your also wearing a gauntlet can you make an unarmed attack while still holding the weapon
like if your holding the weapon and instead of slashing you punch someone.
And if that's the case could you use a combiantion of slashing and unarmed strikes with the same hand as part of an attack routine if your BAB is high enough ?
A black blade is always a one-handed slashing weapon, a rapier, or a sword cane.
Meaning, RAW, you'd probably have to house rule it.
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mmmm that about what I thought. (fabricate won't work on magic weapons)
Here's a followup question though, if your holding a weapon e.g. a blade in a hand your also wearing a gauntlet can you make an unarmed attack while still holding the weapon
like if your holding the weapon and instead of slashing you punch someone.
And if that's the case could you use a combiantion of slashing and unarmed strikes with the same hand as part of an attack routine if your BAB is high enough ?
Yes, as long as you do not use TWFing to gain an extra attack you can do any combination of attacks you want in any order you want without penalty. Though attacking with the sword hand might be questionable, you can certainly kick or something.
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I always thought a blackblade/Staff Magus would be cool, but because of the slashing thhing this is a no go. Shame really. THe visuals for that are awesome.
Yes, as long as you do not use TWFing to gain an extra attack you can do any combination of attacks you want in any order you want without penalty. Though attacking with the sword hand might be questionable, you can certainly kick or something.mmmm that about what I thought. (fabricate won't work on magic weapons)
Here's a followup question though, if your holding a weapon e.g. a blade in a hand your also wearing a gauntlet can you make an unarmed attack while still holding the weapon
like if your holding the weapon and instead of slashing you punch someone.
And if that's the case could you use a combiantion of slashing and unarmed strikes with the same hand as part of an attack routine if your BAB is high enough ?
You know in movie with sword play you occasionally see one of the sword weilders make a cheap shot by punching the other guy in the face with his sword hand. the combination of the hilt under the fingers and the weight of the weapon acting to amplify the punch.
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I'd simply allow that as using your sword as an improvised weapon. -4 to hit, change damage type to blunt, go down one damage dice, or use unarmed damage.
And if that's the case could you use a combiantion of slashing and unarmed strikes with the same hand as part of an attack routine if your BAB is high enough ?
There was interminable argument in another thread over whether you'd incur twf penalties if you switched weapons within your iterative attacks... I'm not sure how or if it was ever resolved.
I'd simply allow that as using your sword as an improvised weapon. -4 to hit, change damage type to blunt, go down one damage dice, or use unarmed damage.
This is correct, RAW, but at least you'd still get the enchantments of your black blade. If you wanted to use that option a lot, you could get Catch Off Guard to eliminate the penalty. Else, maybe ask your DM if you could use the sword as brass knuckles/dan bong, depending on the hilt -- I'd still give you half the penalty on attacks due to the awkwardness of the blade, but not the full -4 for nonproficiency, since it's still a solid, balanced object that you're very familiar with.
I don't think you could use Fabricate or even Craft to reforge your black blade into a weapon type that no longer qualifies to be a black blade, without making it NOT a black blade.
The transformative quality would work, since it doesn't change what the weapon actually IS, permanently. However, it has to be the same general shape and handedness. You can get around the handedness by using a one-handed weapon sized a category down from you, thereby making it a light weapon for you. There is ONE weapon which might be acceptable, the klar, which is basically a spiked shield that does slashing damage.
