I'm creating a Monk and if my monk has a ring of force shield that states:
An iron band, this simple ring generates a shield-sized (and shield-shaped) wall of force that stays with the ring and can be wielded by the wearer as if it were a heavy shield (+2 AC). This special creation has no armor check penalty or arcane spell failure chance since it is weightless and encumbrance-free. It can be activated and deactivated at will as a free action.
would that cancel out mt AC bonus granted by my monk class special which states:
These bonuses to AC apply even against touch attacks or when the monk is flat-footed. He loses these bonuses when he is immobilized or helpless, when he wears any armor, when he carries a shield, or when he carries a medium or heavy load.
can be wielded by the wearer as if it were a heavy shield
That right there is why I would say it would negate the monk bonus. you have to physically weild it, its not automatic magic effect. Even if it is a wall of force, you're weilding it, and it gives a shield bonus.
can be wielded by the wearer as if it were a heavy shieldThat right there is why I would say it would negate the monk bonus. you have to physically weild it, its not automatic magic effect. Even if it is a wall of force, you're weilding it, and it gives a shield bonus.
But monks lose the AC for carrying the shield not wielding them.
Thus, the ring never becomes a shield only counts as wielding one (not carrying one) so he should be able to use it.
You have to carry a shield to weild it. Weilding is carrying, but carrying is not necessarily weilding.
Otherwise, monks could use all shields fine, provided they never actually put it in a backpack or held it, just strapped it to their forewarm in the morning and weilded it all day.
except that no it doesnt. it explicitly says that you wield it as a heavy steel shield. If you want to define wielding it as strapping it to your arm, then thats fine, but a magic item that allows you to wield it will function the same way.
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I am of the opinion that since the ring goes out of its way to call out this:
An iron band, this simple ring generates a shield-sized (and shield-shaped) wall of force that stays with the ring and can be wielded by the wearer as if it were a heavy shield (+2 AC). This special creation has no armor check penalty or arcane spell failure chance since it is weightless and encumbrance-free. It can be activated and deactivated at will as a free action.
That it is treated just like a heavy shield, except that it does not have an armor check penalty. This would allow it for shield bashes and all feats that require a shield.
I would view this as treating it as a shield for the monk, and disabling his AC bonus, fast movement, and flurry of blows.
At that point I would point him to the bracers of armor with a +3 for only 500 gp more on a +2 for 4,500 GP less...
Or heck, a ring of protection +2 (deflection bonus to armor, even better then a shield bonus) for 500 GP less...
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What would you recommend a monk do to get a shield bonus to complement his bracers and ring Happler?
What about the profane, holy, or moral bonuses to round out that also? Don't forget the dodge bonuses (since they stack, you have as many of them as you can get!)
Spent all your money getting awesome AC? Great now actually hit something....
Just use Amulet of Natural Armor, much easier :P
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What would you recommend a monk do to get a shield bonus to complement his bracers and ring Happler?
Snapping Turtle style.
By reading the RAW I'd say they are not allowed in game I never experienced the monk having a poor AC, probably ending up on the high side of the party, the monk might have a few problems but AC and defenses are not it. I think I'd not allow it for the basic monk, but possibly for a sub-optimal monk build with less traditional monk-i-ness, a sohei or weapon adept possibly.
The item itself is actually quite decent, since it effectively is a ghost touch weapon and shield that can be equiped and unequiped as a free action without armor check penalty or spell failure
What would you recommend a monk do to get a shield bonus to complement his bracers and ring Happler?Snapping Turtle style.
Best option IMO if you want a shield bonus without taking a level in a spellcasting class and using a spell.
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Regardless, the easiest real way to do this is yes, an alchemist extract. Alchemists can make extracts (with the right abilities) of personal spells, and can give them away. So its doable.
Otherwise, quite frankly...as a monk, I'd suggest that you're not really entitled to a shield bonus. the class kind of goes out of its way not to give you one, and trying to game that defeats the purpose. The fact that someone replied "well, how else do you expect me to get a shield bonus" just feels like some sort of strange entitlement problem. Maybe the designers DON'T.
yes, through a feat. which is much more rare and precious than simply spending a bit of cash. there's a much higher investment to do so, especially considering you need 2 feats to maintain the same +2 bonus as the workaround that's being attempted here
Any of the weapons from UC that has the blocking special quality provides a shield bonus.
Blocking only works while fighting defensively.
My suggestion would be to take the Crane Style feat, buy yourself a tonfa and start fighting defensively.
This will effectively raise yor AC by 3.
(+1 is shield bonus, +2 is dodge bonus)
Upgrade your tonfa to a defending weapon later if you need to keep boosting your AC.
If you really want a shield bonus that is magical or force related, you will have to multiclass. The Shield spell is personal range, not available as a potion. My suggestion would be to take a level of either Abjurer (Shield is your school spell) which also gives basic energy resistance or Transmuter (Shield is non-school spell) which gives a +1 physical ability boost. Altrnately take a level of Alchemist which offers the spell and also Mutagen which is nice with Monks.