Reskinning & Vanities


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Sovereign Court 5/5

The new reskinning rule only references AC/Mounts and items.

I'm not sure that vanities would count as items, and they're clearly not AC/Mounts. Not even the caravan! :D

I'd think that there's an argument to be had to extend no-reskinning to vanities, but I hope not. I mean, what's the big benefit to giving the chance for Profession:Barkeep or Profession:Scribe to get +1 to day job checks when others can't spend the same PP for the same benefit?

I suppose if free reskins would be allowed you'd have potential abuses such as 'improper' professions such as Profession: Sith Lord and his reskinned vanity described as 'not being a moon' in some pocket demi-plane.. But still feels awful random and partial for Profession and Perform skills to be listed as haves and have-nots. Doubly so since the Craft vanity works on any craft skill, not just 1 or two explicity specified.

Here's to hoping more vanities come at a steady (if slow) trickle from the faucet of Paizo dev's production desk :)

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Yeah, my baker was pretty bummed to discover that barkeepers could get a Tavern to boost their Day Job rolls but he couldn't.

I'm considering getting it anyway (the other benefit isn't dependent on Profession: Barkeeper) and calling it a bakery (being a bakery and a tavern are not mutually-exclusive; it's just a tavern that specializes in baked goods).

The Exchange 5/5

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"I tell ya offasir I haven't had a drop ta drink tanight, just had a dozen rum muffins at da bakery ...."

yeah...

4/5

Many of the vanities already call for a bit of creative expression. Did you buy a ship? Give it a name! Did you join a temple? To which deity is it dedicated? Did you hire a porter? Give him a name, and tell us where he's from. Did you purchase a coastal island? How many palm trees are growing on it?

Whether or not vanities count as items is a valid question. I would err on the side of "no" unless a vanity is a direct substitute for another PFS-legal item (read: Wayfinders).

Because vanities rarely contribute to the main action of a scenario, I don't see much to fuss about if somebody wants to personalize his estate in Taldor (it's made of brick and has two stories) or claim that her chronicler is from Varisia. There's almost no chance of staying in your estate or your chronicler playing any part in combat or negotiations, so a bit of customization should not offend most GMs. Even so, I would try to adapt your idea to overlap with the vanity's entry as written as much as possible. The idea of the tipsy bakery/tavern is pretty hilarious, and I could see the Scrivener actually specializing in forged documents; combine that with the Sczarni "Front" boon for added chuckles.

Just try not to have a seneschal who's secretly a clockwork were-owlbadger who moonlights as the lich he actually is. Avoid having him watch over your estate with solid gold walls built on the planet Eox. Please avoid having your coastal island be the sole portal to a private demiplane.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/5

Looking at the Tavern in particular. I don't see why you couldn't say its a bakery or whatever. The problem is it still would only give the benefit to Profession (bartender). Reskinning anything doesn't let you change the rules behind it.

A Tavern by any other name (or look) is still a Tavern.

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Clint Blome wrote:

Looking at the Tavern in particular. I don't see why you couldn't say its a bakery or whatever. The problem is it still would only give the benefit to Profession (bartender). Reskinning anything doesn't let you change the rules behind it.

A Tavern by any other name (or look) is still a Tavern.

Hence my baker's sadness. :(

Shadow Lodge 1/5

Jiggy wrote:
Clint Blome wrote:

Looking at the Tavern in particular. I don't see why you couldn't say its a bakery or whatever. The problem is it still would only give the benefit to Profession (bartender). Reskinning anything doesn't let you change the rules behind it.

A Tavern by any other name (or look) is still a Tavern.

Hence my baker's sadness. :(

My BBQ chef will buy you a drink.

Sovereign Court 3/5

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Should have just reskinned Profession: Bartender.

"Let's hit the bar, Cleric!"
"Yeah, sure. It's been a while since I've had some decent muffins."

Grand Lodge 5/5

deusvult wrote:
I suppose if free reskins would be allowed you'd have potential abuses such as 'improper' professions such as Profession: Sith Lord and his reskinned vanity described as 'not being a moon' in some pocket demi-plane..

I cant have Profession: Sith Lord? But, I ...the character is already...well damn. *runs off to make new character with Profession: Bounty Hunter*

Jiggy wrote:

Yeah, my baker was pretty bummed to discover that barkeepers could get a Tavern to boost their Day Job rolls but he couldn't.

I'm considering getting it anyway (the other benefit isn't dependent on Profession: Barkeeper) and calling it a bakery (being a bakery and a tavern are not mutually-exclusive; it's just a tavern that specializes in baked goods).

For name play, something about barley?

Silver Crusade 3/5

godsDMit wrote:
deusvult wrote:
I suppose if free reskins would be allowed you'd have potential abuses such as 'improper' professions such as Profession: Sith Lord and his reskinned vanity described as 'not being a moon' in some pocket demi-plane..
I cant have Profession: Sith Lord? But, I ...the character is already...well damn. *runs off to make new character with Profession: Bounty Hunter*

Bounty Hunters? We don't need their scum.

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FallofCamelot wrote:
godsDMit wrote:
deusvult wrote:
I suppose if free reskins would be allowed you'd have potential abuses such as 'improper' professions such as Profession: Sith Lord and his reskinned vanity described as 'not being a moon' in some pocket demi-plane..
I cant have Profession: Sith Lord? But, I ...the character is already...well damn. *runs off to make new character with Profession: Bounty Hunter*
Bounty Hunters? We don't need their scum.

What about profession: Scoundrel?

Sovereign Court 5/5

I bet 'Profession: Nerf-herder' would fly at many a table. Especially if the PC is especially scruffy.

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deusvult wrote:
I bet 'Profession: Nerf-herder' would fly at many a table. Especially if the PC is especially scruffy.

I don't really think that PFS needs nerfing, do you?

Shadow Lodge 2/5

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It isn't so much "Re-skinning" in this case as it is wanting another profession-related vanity. I myself was sad that Cook didn't get one.

...If our characters of choice are ever in the same adventure together, you bake the bread and I'll make sandwiches with it!

Grand Lodge 5/5

The Shifty Mongoose wrote:
...If our characters of choice are ever in the same adventure together, you bake the bread and I'll make sandwiches with it!

So, you have Profession: Woman?

Ba-ZING! :P

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Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
deusvult wrote:
I bet 'Profession: Nerf-herder' would fly at many a table. Especially if the PC is especially scruffy.
I don't really think that PFS needs nerfing, do you?

As long as I can still bull's-eye womp rats from my T-16, I'll be happy.

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WalterGM wrote:
As long as I can still bull's-eye womp rats from my T-16, I'll be happy.

Shouldn't be a problem. They're not much more than 2 meters. I think you can hit that :-)

5/5

Kerney wrote:
Jiggy wrote:

Hence my baker's sadness. :(

My BBQ chef will buy you a drink.

In my tavern!

The Exchange 5/5

Bob Jonquet wrote:
WalterGM wrote:
As long as I can still bull's-eye womp rats from my T-16, I'll be happy.
Shouldn't be a problem. They're not much more than 2 meters. I think you can hit that :-)

Damn offworlders and their Metric system.

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