Size Increases

[fatchuck]

Quick Q - where is the size increase table for Pathfinder? I'm referring to something like this, which lists the ability score bonuses as a creature goes up or down in size:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#sizeIncreases

I have both the Core Rulebook and the Advanced Player's Guide, but can't find this chart.

Thank you.

[Jeraa]

Beastiary 1, page 296.

[d20pfsrd.com]

or here

[Grick]

fatchuck wrote:

Quick Q - where is the size increase table for Pathfinder?

PRD => Bestiary => Monster Advancement => Table: Size Changes

[fatchuck]

Ah, thank you very much for all the help. No wonder I couldn't find it in my books.

[roger Gilbert]

would this also work for chacters who become larger due to a spell...

[Thalin]

Most spells tell you what they do; Enlarge person is +2 Str -2 Dex, for instance. The size charts do not apply to these. They do apply to animal growth though.

[LazarX]

Thalin wrote:

Most spells tell you what they do; Enlarge person is +2 Str -2 Dex, for instance. The size charts do not apply to these. They do apply to animal growth though.

Changes to weapon dice do apply though.

[Happler]

roger Gilbert wrote:

would this also work for chacters who become larger due to a spell...

Generally you only add what the spell tells you to add/change.

For example, the enlarge person states:

Quote:

This spell causes instant growth of a humanoid creature, doubling its height and multiplying its weight by 8. This increase changes the creature's size category to the next larger one. The target gains a +2 size bonus to Strength, a –2 size penalty to Dexterity (to a minimum of 1), and a –1 penalty on attack rolls and AC due to its increased size.

A humanoid creature whose size increases to Large has a space of 10 feet and a natural reach of 10 feet. This spell does not change the target's speed.

So you gain the following:

size to next catagory
+2 size bonus to str
-2 size penalty to dex
-1 penalty on attack rolls and AC

It does not matter what size you started at, those are the changes.

Also, when it comes to size increasing spells, they generally do not stack.

[roger Gilbert]

what about a gnome who uses the mutagenic form... and is now a diffent size for instance hes now looks like an orc... and then adds a spell like enlarge person... would he now be an large person or just a true medium...

[Grick]

roger Gilbert wrote:

what about a gnome who uses the mutagenic form... and is now a diffent size for instance hes now looks like an orc... and then adds a spell like enlarge person... would he now be an large person or just a true medium...

If you're referring to Growth Mutagen (Su) then since it acts like the effects of an enlarge person spell, the bonuses do not stack. Also, multiple magical effects that increase size do not stack.

If you are not talking about Growth Mutagen, and just the Mutagenic Form (Ex) it doesn't actually change your size as far as I can tell.

[roger Gilbert]

Yeah I ment the form... So that means hed be a small Orc looking gnome?