and if so what Armor Bonus does is grant?
According to UC ...
"Alternatively, a plate torso armor piece
can be constructed from dragonhide for 700 gpgp, and an agile
plate torso armor piece can be constructed from dragonhide
for 1,100 gp; if either is worn alone, it bestows any energy
damage immunity possessed by the dragon to the wearer."plate torso armor piece
cost 200 gp
armor bonus +6
max Dex Bonus +3
Armor check penalty -4
according to core ...
"Druids are proficient with light and medium armor but
are prohibited from wearing metal armor; thus, they may
wear only padded, leather, or hide armor."under dragonhide entry ...
"Because dragonhide armor isn’t made of metal, druids
can wear it without penalty."
so would the UC be implying that the dragon hide is stretched over the metal plate thus granting the armor bonus (and possible elemental immunity) or that the torso peice is non-metalic (made of the dragon hide) and thus wearable by druids?
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so would the UC be implying that the dragon hide is stretched over the metal plate thus granting the armor bonus (and possible elemental immunity) or that the torso peice is non-metalic (made of the dragon hide) and thus wearable by druids?
Dragonhide is wearable by druids, as are items made of Ironwood. Other than being druid-friendly, they're basically identical.
I think that's pretty much the only point of those two material types, by the way.
EDIT: Forgot to add, they'll need the necessary feats as well. As in 'identical', above.
so would the UC be implying that the dragon hide is stretched over the metal plate thus granting the armor bonus (and possible elemental immunity) or that the torso peice is non-metalic (made of the dragon hide) and thus wearable by druids?
Dragonhide is wearable by druids, as are items made of Ironwood. Other than being druid-friendly, they're basically identical.
I think that's pretty much the only point of those two material types, by the way.
EDIT: Forgot to add, they'll need the necessary feats as well. As in 'identical', above.
My question is more about the Plate part as plate is defined in core ...
Full Plate: This metal suit includes gauntlets, heavy
leather boots, a visored helmet, and a thick layer of padding
that is worn underneath the armor. Each suit of full
plate must be individually fitted to its owner by a master
armorsmith, although a captured suit can be resized to fit
a new owner at a cost of 200 to 800 (2d4 × 100) gold pieces.
according to UC it would seem you can make what is normally a metal peice of armor out of dragonhide (non-metal) and presumably get the armor protection of said (normally) metal armor. (granted the druid would need the armor prof feat to wear the heavy armor without penalty.
Am I interpretting this correctly ... it just doesn't add up to me?
edit: after re-reading the dragonhide entry it would appear that it is possible to create a suit of plate armor out of dragonhide. TBH seems odd that you can get the same protection from hide as metal.
Looks like my druid needs to find a dragon to slay :)
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and if so what Armor Bonus does is grant?
According to UC ...
"Alternatively, a plate torso armor piece
can be constructed from dragonhide for 700 gpgp, and an agile
plate torso armor piece can be constructed from dragonhide
for 1,100 gp; if either is worn alone, it bestows any energy
damage immunity possessed by the dragon to the wearer."plate torso armor piece
cost 200 gp
armor bonus +6
max Dex Bonus +3
Armor check penalty -4
according to core ...
"Druids are proficient with light and medium armor but
are prohibited from wearing metal armor; thus, they may
wear only padded, leather, or hide armor."under dragonhide entry ...
"Because dragonhide armor isn’t made of metal, druids
can wear it without penalty."so would the UC be implying that the dragon hide is stretched over the metal plate thus granting the armor bonus (and possible elemental immunity) or that the torso peice is non-metalic (made of the dragon hide) and thus wearable by druids?
Making the full plate out of dragonhide will allow a druid to wear it without losing their druid abilities, you will however still need the proficiencies
coolies, next question / contridiction
core ...
If the dragonhide
comes from a dragon that had immunity to an energy
type, the armor is also immune to that energy type,
although this does not confer any protection to the
wearer.
UC ...
If the dragonhide used to construct this armor comes from
a dragon that had immunity to an energy type, the armor
pieces also have immunity to that energy type, but only
confer the immunity on the wearer if he is wearing a suit of
armor made entirely of dragonhide from the same type of
dragon.[regarding torso/breatplate] ... if either is worn alone, it bestows any energy damage immunity possessed by the dragon to the wearer.
so which one is correct?
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so which one is correct?
Well in a case of Paizo trumping Paizo, I'd say go with Paizo!
In all seriousness, I think the logic works like so:
A) UC trumps core, because it is newer. So protection can now be conferred to the wearer.
B) Wearing half a suit can confer protection.
C) Wearing two halves from different dragons doesn't.
Though I'm not sure what happens when you mix - whether you'd get only one (say the top half) or you'd get neither. But it reads to me as the 'same type' is a limit intended to prevent this bonus from stacking.
Perhaps a better rule would have been to have half a suit confer half a bonus... but rules is rules.
What if it's dragonhide from a metallic and not a chromatic dragon? (eyebrows)
What if it's dragonhide from a metallic and not a chromatic dragon? (eyebrows)
I hope it was given willingly, from discarded scales?
Also, I disagree on UC taking precedence for elemental resistance from Dragonhide Armor; isn't that reference under the patchwork armor rules, which are explicitly optional?
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Also, I disagree on UC taking precedence for elemental resistance from Dragonhide Armor; isn't that reference under the patchwork armor rules, which are explicitly optional?
Well, okay, sure. I'll try again, if I may:
A) If you elect to use this option UC trumps core. So protection can now be conferred to the wearer.
Better?
:)
Also, I disagree on UC taking precedence for elemental resistance from Dragonhide Armor; isn't that reference under the patchwork armor rules, which are explicitly optional?Well, okay, sure. I'll try again, if I may:
A) If you elect to use this option UC trumps core. So protection can now be conferred to the wearer.Better?
:)
Fair enough.
Its not like patchwork armor needs more going for it though...