Are there any Druid Archetypes that replace Wild Shape?


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One of my players is wanting to play a Druid more like a nature-oriented Gandalf than an Animorph, and so he's looking for an archetype that replaces Wild Shape. Unfortunately, I can't find anything in the APG or UM.

Any ideas?


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How about... Not a druid at all? Oracle of nature, oracle of wood, wood specialist wizards.


Tangaroa wrote:
How about... Not a druid at all? Oracle of nature, oracle of wood, wood specialist wizards.

Eh, he says that Oracle's spell list doesn't work for what he's trying to do, which is be a generalized elementalist-type spellcaster. Summoning the powers of earth, fire, storm, etc. Kind of like a shaman, more concerned with communing with the spirits and elements instead of being all nature-y. Anything that would help with that?


Xisifer wrote:
Tangaroa wrote:
How about... Not a druid at all? Oracle of nature, oracle of wood, wood specialist wizards.
Eh, he says that Oracle's spell list doesn't work for what he's trying to do, which is be a generalized elementalist-type spellcaster. Summoning the powers of earth, fire, storm, etc. Kind of like a shaman, more concerned with communing with the spirits and elements instead of being all nature-y. Anything that would help with that?

Make your own archetype. Don't worry about it being super powerful, since wildshape is an extremely powerful ability.


I was in the same situation as a player, my GM allowed me to play as an Oracle of waves, but selecting from the Druid spell list. I gave up getting my level equivalent cure spell to gain my level equivalent Summon Natures Ally spell.


Go with oracle, sorcerer or witch and custom the spell list. Or just swap spell list for the druid spell list.


What about applying the Spirit Ranger archetype (for Ranger)? It replaces a powerful ability gained at lvl 4, so should stay somewhat balanced, and adds spellcasting.

Spirit Ranger
(gotta rework some "favored terrain"-wording, but that's not the end of the world)

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what about just giving an oracle a druids spell lit instead of a clerics?


Name Violation wrote:
what about just giving an oracle a druids spell lit instead of a clerics?

It is possible, though I would likely want to replace the curse as well, having a random curse added to your conceptual character can be annoying.


Try a standard druid, but replace Wild Shape with a free bonus feat every four levels. You could make list of feats available, much like a wizard (bonus metamagic and "summoning feats" would be appropriate), or just let them be discretionary choices if you aren't too worried about your player going munchkin. Then again, as Cheapy pointed out, Wild Shape is a VERY powerful ability, so that may not be so much of a concern.


Maybe trade Wild Shape for Favored Terrain or a second Animal Companion? You could allow them to take an additional domain, perhaps, and fill in with some bonus feats?


Some ideas: Just give him a sorcerer bloodline, free. Only the extra powers and arcana. At reduced level, of course, since he'd get it at level 5.

Or give him 2 more domains and allow spontaneous domain casting.

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