according to the feat description:
The Leader... Modifier
Has a familiar, special mount, or animal companion -2why is that?
if the character has a private Dragon, doesn't it add to his reputation ?
1: You're less attractive to other potential companions due to having to split your resources, riches, treasure etc. between more than one companion.
2: Balance. You've already got a companion. Adding even more stuff to control bogs down the table.
look at it this way, if you have a wife, will it be easier or more difficult to find a girlfriend that will join your futures adventures?
In short people prefer to be your best buddies, if you already have a best buddy, well they will be more likely to seek another person who'll be their best buddy.
And is -2 really that dramatic? Be happy that your GM lets you take Leadership at all.
Just to clarify: Remember that this is a "cohort only"-modifier. If you have a pet dragon, it will not affect the number of followers you get, just the level of your cohort. (And a nice GM might give you the "special power" bonus if you captured the dragon yourself).
1: You're less attractive to other potential companions due to having to split your resources, riches, treasure etc. between more than one companion.2: Balance. You've already got a companion. Adding even more stuff to control bogs down the table.
3: Because people look at you and go "He values that animal more than me."
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3: Because people look at you and go "He values that animal more than me."
1: You're less attractive to other potential companions due to having to split your resources, riches, treasure etc. between more than one companion.2: Balance. You've already got a companion. Adding even more stuff to control bogs down the table.
4: Because people get nervous when you have a dire ape companion and you say you want to frak them like an animal.
It affects the starting level of the attracted cohort. After that, there's nothing that limits the cohort to gain experience and level up to 2 levels lower than you anyways.
Oh yeah, and he can never be higher than 2 levels lower (xp goes up to the last point needed before leveling to just under you level).
Most Leadership feat-based characters I've made had bonuses so high that it didn't matter anyways. Most have a decent Charisma score (at least 14).
At level 7, if you have 14 Charisma, your score is 9. Even without adding the modifiers, you are looking at a cohort level of 6th. However, he can't be higher than 5th, so he's stuck at 5th level anyways.
Add the -2 for having an animal companion, and you've got a cohort level of 5th. Where's the problem?
Let's look at this from the worst case scenario: You've got a -1 penalty to your Charisma (it's your dump stat), you want a cohort with a different alignment, and you have an animal companion (say your are a Ranger).
That means your score is treated as a 3, and you get a 2nd level cohort.
Since his experience requirements to level are much, MUCH lower than yours, even at a % of your experience, he'll quickly catch up to being 2 levels lower.
Doing some quick and dirty math on the medium xp speed chart, you'd be 9th level (working towards 10th) around the time your cohort would have jumped up to 7th level.
For being the worst person to take Leadership, that's really not that bad.
I'd simply be happy with having access to the Leadership feat at all.
My group calls it the pokemon effect. The penalty, in essence, is to discourage the amount of power a character can amass. And while I'm not clear in pathfinder, in 3.5 the experience gain was designed to always linger exactly 2 levels behind you. Since XP gain is different in PF I imagine it's not the same thing.
My group calls it the pokemon effect. The penalty, in essence, is to discourage the amount of power a character can amass. And while I'm not clear in pathfinder, in 3.5 the experience gain was designed to always linger exactly 2 levels behind you. Since XP gain is different in PF I imagine it's not the same thing.
The way cohorts gain experience has not changed from 3.5e to Pathfinder.
You might be thinking of the removal of experience as a cost for spells and magic items, etc. This doesn't really affect it.Pathfinder has a different speed of gaining experience (actually, 3 tables for fast, medium and slow progressions), but it otherwise advances characters with experience the same way. Cohorts didn't change.
really? who do you figure that? I reread the Leadership feat, I didn't see anywhere that this is a cohort only modifier... as I understand it affect your leadership score - which applies to both cohort & followers.
This is copied from the feat:
The Leader... Modifier
Has a familiar, special mount, or animal companion –2
Recruits a cohort of a different alignment –1
Caused the death of a cohort –2*
* Cumulative per cohort killed.
(badly formatted, check out Leadership instead.)
...followed by a line and a chart with "followers only"-modifiers. Though it's badly worded, the intention is clearly that these are "cohort only" modifiers.
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FYI, the Beast Leadership feat detailed in the article Beast Masters: Why Should Human(oid)s Have All The Fun? in Kobold Quarterly 18 actually gives you a bonus for having a familiar, special mount, or animal companion! :)