The Loneliest Campaign


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When my group decided to play Second Darkness, I knew it wasn't one of the more popular campaigns. I'm surprised to find how sad I am each day when I visit the message boards and there are no posts for Second Darkness. No posts for weeks at a time. I hadn't realized that a substantial part of the fun of an AP is coming here and seeing what everybody else is up to.

Boo-hoo for me. Our next campaign will be whichever one has the most active thread counts.


DMFTodd wrote:

When my group decided to play Second Darkness, I knew it wasn't one of the more popular campaigns. I'm surprised to find how sad I am each day when I visit the message boards and there are no posts for Second Darkness. No posts for weeks at a time. I hadn't realized that a substantial part of the fun of an AP is coming here and seeing what everybody else is up to.

Boo-hoo for me. Our next campaign will be whichever one has the most active thread counts.

Ouch that sucks, Did you include a minimum post counter per unit of time like 1 post per day.


DMFTodd wrote:
Boo-hoo for me. Our next campaign will be whichever one has the most active thread counts.

That's no guarantee, especially when some of the "busier" AP sub-boards are filled with natter, or in the case of Kingmaker, bringing up the exact same questions once the appropriate thread has drifted off the front page of topics.

I prefer to just read through all the books in a given AP, look for fixes, recommendations, and advice, and above all, make sure it's the AP your players want to be involved in.

Dark Archive

DMFTodd wrote:

When my group decided to play Second Darkness, I knew it wasn't one of the more popular campaigns. I'm surprised to find how sad I am each day when I visit the message boards and there are no posts for Second Darkness. No posts for weeks at a time. I hadn't realized that a substantial part of the fun of an AP is coming here and seeing what everybody else is up to.

Boo-hoo for me. Our next campaign will be whichever one has the most active thread counts.

Second Darkness is on my very long waiting list of campaigns to run.

Are you running it more or less as written, or have you tweaked it a bit?


Pretty much as is, though there's some difference in the drow/elf relation due to my campaign world.

Silver Crusade

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Second Darkness has many great and memorable moments (and an absolutely cool 2nd adventure), but there a major issues with the metaplot and adventure 5 is so bad that it hurts. Hence, it's not that popular.

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DMFTodd wrote:

When my group decided to play Second Darkness, I knew it wasn't one of the more popular campaigns. I'm surprised to find how sad I am each day when I visit the message boards and there are no posts for Second Darkness. No posts for weeks at a time. I hadn't realized that a substantial part of the fun of an AP is coming here and seeing what everybody else is up to.

Boo-hoo for me. Our next campaign will be whichever one has the most active thread counts.

That is kind of sad. I know I haunt the boards a lot on the two paths I'm running. It is definitely fun to see what others are doing.

However, this:

Daviot wrote:
some of the "busier" AP sub-boards are filled with natter, or in the case of Kingmaker, bringing up the exact same questions once the appropriate thread has drifted off the front page of topics.

...is absolutely true. I am running Kingmaker and Rise of the Runelords (the two biggest active thread counts). It stuns me how often the same question comes up over and over (hello, again, Mr. "Are there PF conversions for Sins of the Saviors?" guy). I'm even guilty of having done it ("What the hell? How do the kingdom making rules apply to these already existing towns/cities? They make no sense").

At any rate, Daviot's right. There is often a ton of chaff to wade through. Don't be deluded into thinking that only if it's active does it mean it's worthwhile. There are others like you. If you post on Second Darkness, you'll get replies.

Scarab Sages

Part of that is Rise of the Runelords was the only game in town being the 1st one, and also now the oldest. Kingmaker was much anticipated and had lots of very new and different rules. Because of these, there are a TON of archive threads to have to wade through to find what you are looking for. Search does help, but often times, the info you are looking for is in a threadjack or side track of another thread topic. Or there are just a zillion threads.. for instance, search kingdom building in Kingmaker archives...hope you have got a while to read...

I got into Rise of the Runelords during its second phase of popularity so to speak, after things had died down but around the time the RPG ruleset for Pathfinder was getting ready to emerge, and nearly all my questions got me links to other threads, often ones I would not have looked in (yay community assistance!). When I look there now, I see the same topics I was asking about way back being asked again, so yes, there is a lot of rinse and repeat going on :)


Gorbacz wrote:
Second Darkness has many great and memorable moments (and an absolutely cool 2nd adventure), but there a major issues with the metaplot and adventure 5 is so bad that it hurts. Hence, it's not that popular.

Can you give me a few examples? Of course in spoiler tags so that we don't ruin someone's game.


leo1925 wrote:
Can you give me a few examples? Of course in spoiler tags so that we don't ruin someone's game.

In the first adventure you get to...

First Adventure Spoiler:
Become the prime movers and shakers running a casino. This was so popular that one of the main complaints about the campaign is that people had to leave the casino behind to follow the campaign. Fun stuff.

This is also the first look people get at the drow in Pathfinder. Unfortunately this is tough to pull off as cool as it should be because of the history of other versions of the game being so choked full of drow.

In the second adventure you face off with...

Second Adventure Spoilers:
Akata. In my opinion this is a fantastic adventure that the PCs will find to be very tough to deal with. However, once they figure out the vulnerability to salt water they can turn things on the invaders very quickly... fun horror movie stuff here, hard to deal with until you figure out the vulnerability.

More fun stuff...

Other Spoilers:
Not to drag everything out I also loved that you are learning about the elven culture in the world, dealing with their politics, etc, etc. Frankly there is a ton of goodness here as long as your PCs don't think they are playing in a Riddleport piratey game, feel the first adventure or two supports them in this idea and feel the rest of the adventures do a bait and switch on them.

Anyway... the best way to make a particular sub-board more active is to post more yourself. More questions, more good observations, all that will make it more active.

Sean


I'm plying in SD right now on a PBP game (we just started book 3) and I'm using it as the backdrop for my own PbP game.

I really like the adventures (espeicailly the first three, but I also like the backdrop of Riddleport. So, I use the advenutres as framework to ahve other things going on instead...

Spoiler:
For example, my players may or may not even end up working at the Goblin, though they will eventually explore the dungeon below. They've already run afoul of Zipheras' boys and are now looking to take the crimeboss down a few more notches, etc...)

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