Diego Rossi
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Spell Sunder (Su): Once per rage, the barbarian can attempt to sunder an ongoing spell effect by succeeding at a combat maneuver check. For any effect other than one on a creature, the barbarian must make her combat maneuver check against a CMD of 15 plus the effect’s caster level. To sunder an effect on a creature, the barbarian must succeed at a normal sunder combat maneuver against the creature’s CMD + 5, ignoring any miss chance caused by a spell or spell-like ability. If successful, the
barbarian suppresses the effect for 1 round, or 2 rounds if she exceeded the CMD by 5 to 9.
So far so good. There is no apparent reason for it not to work against spells that can't be dispelled.
If she exceeds the CMD by 10 or more, the effect is dispelled. A barbarian must have the witch hunter rage power and be at least 6th level
before selecting this rage power.
At this point it become dicey. There are spell that can't be dispelled or are dispelled only by Mage's Disjunction.
This power work on them?Then a secondary question:
the power is SU. It will work on a Antimagic Field? Possible replies that I see:
No
Yes, but only if used from outside it
Yes
Third question, just to nitpick it:
this power will destroy a prismatic sphere/wall completely, or it will destroy one layer at a time?
| Zen79 |
UC wrote:
If she exceeds the CMD by 10 or more, the effect is dispelled. A barbarian must have the witch hunter rage power and be at least 6th level
before selecting this rage power.At this point it become dicey. There are spell that can't be dispelled or are dispelled only by Mage's Disjunction.
This power work on them?
Take Wall of Force as an example:
A wall of force is immune to dispel magic, although a mage's disjunction can still dispel it.
I think being immune to dispel magic (one specific spell) is not the same thing as being immune to being dispelled - so I would rule that Spell Sunder can destroy a Wall of Force.
Jason Nelson
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games
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Since the power simply states the effect is "dispelled" and does NOT stipulate that it is "as the dispel magic spell" or any kind of similar verbiage, it stands to reason that any language in the game that relates specifically to dispel magic would not apply, since this power does not emulate it.
That's what my logic circuits tell me (and what I had in mind for RAI), but if you're looking for additional RAW confirmation besides what your own logic tells you, FAQ away and wait for the official response.
StabbittyDoom
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Agreed with all of the above. It doesn't say "as dispel magic", so it's not treated as dispel magic. (Almost) Any spell with a duration can be crushed.
Of course, I'm still waiting for the moment where someone in the party gets hit with something like baleful polymorph and the barbarian does a good ol' back-hand heal. This doesn't work for all the big debuffs, though, since (for example) Bestow Curse says "cannot be dispelled" (without mentioned dispel magic) and Flesh to Stone is instantaneous.