I'm the invincible Kikonu!


Jade Regent


Today I've recieved the e-mail that my "The Brinewall Legacy" copy was being shipped, so I proceded to download the pdf. I'm currently reading the Brinewall castle part and I've seen that

Spoiler:
both in T6 and U7 Kikonu's statblock says he has 1600 hp.
That's a typo, isn't it?


Yeah, there's a couple typos like that where xp is used for hp. You can find the real hp on page 88.

Grand Lodge

Starfury wrote:
Yeah, there's a couple typos like that where xp is used for hp. You can find the real hp on page 88.

More checking Paizo... its getting embarrassing.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

1 person marked this as a favorite.

Not sure how that typo got into there. My guess is some sort of copy/paste error that simply got missed during editing. Fortunately, in the case of Kikonu, his full stat block is on page 88.

Whatever caused it, I'm 99% sure that it's the same thing that caused the 800 hp toe-biter later in the same adventure.

I'll talk with the editors and developers to make sure that they watch out for this error whenever they're using short stat blocks for creatures whose full stat blocks appear elsewhere in the adventure.

And it's not getting embarassing. Typos have ALWAYS been embarassing. And they're nothing new. As evidenced by the 43 HD pyrolisk from 1st edition AD&D.

We do try to keep on top of them, though. Again... this error seems to be something new—I've not seen its like show up before, but the fact that it happened on two monsters whose stat blocks were reprinted elsewhere in the book (either in the appendix or the bestiary) is more than a coincidence.


1 person marked this as a favorite.
James Jacobs wrote:
Typos have ALWAYS been embarassing. And they're nothing new. As evidenced by the 43 HD pyrolisk from 1st edition AD&D.

Typos happen. Editing isn't perfect even when it's done by multiple people over multiple revisions. Pointing it out can be helpful, but beating the TypoHorse to death is silly.

When I was in school I used to edit my teacher's syllabus and hand it back to them. James, you are FAR more reasonable than my teachers when such errors are pointed out. Apparently, teachers hate a snot-nosed kid pointing out their mistakes. Go figure. :)

Paizo Employee Creative Director

1 person marked this as a favorite.

Actually... being able to calm down and collect my thoughts and being able to retype and reword my initial responses multiple times before I hit "submit post" is what you're seeing there, really. My initial reaction to having typos pointed out is always a lot more childish. I just have learned to control that initial reaction, since being shown typos IS important and helps us do better.

This is a great example, in fact. The typo had a real-world cause, and I was able to investigate and figure out exactly how and where and why it happened, and now myself and the entire editorial team will be on the lookout for this error in the future.

Feedback is always helpful, in other words. ESPECIALLY when, as in the case of this thread, said feedback is provided in a friendly, helpful, non insulting way. Thanks! :-)

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

James Jacobs wrote:

Actually... being able to calm down and collect my thoughts and being able to retype and reword my initial responses multiple times before I hit "submit post" is what you're seeing there, really. My initial reaction to having typos pointed out is always a lot more childish. I just have learned to control that initial reaction, since being shown typos IS important and helps us do better.

This is a great example, in fact. The typo had a real-world cause, and I was able to investigate and figure out exactly how and where and why it happened, and now myself and the entire editorial team will be on the lookout for this error in the future.

Feedback is always helpful, in other words. ESPECIALLY when, as in the case of this thread, said feedback is provided in a friendly, helpful, non insulting way. Thanks! :-)

Well focus on the positive... it's not as bad as iWizard and daWizard :-)

(glad to see you found the cause)


1 person marked this as a favorite.

I thought it was hilarious as hell. I saw the 1600 hp and read the encounter, thinking, 'is there some way the PC's have to weaken him to make him killable or something' and then realized it was the same value as the experience.

Man, I wonder if any n00b-ish GM's are going to make that mistake, though. Sounds pretty terrible.

Owner - House of Books and Games LLC

Terraneaux wrote:

I thought it was hilarious as hell. I saw the 1600 hp and read the encounter, thinking, 'is there some way the PC's have to weaken him to make him killable or something' and then realized it was the same value as the experience.

Man, I wonder if any n00b-ish GM's are going to make that mistake, though. Sounds pretty terrible.

Reminds me of a *cough* few years ago when I'd made a little D&D game on the computers at school, just a series of rooms and combats. About 1% of the time in the lower levels, you'd run into an allosaurus, and because of a bug in the claw/claw/bite routine (it was the only creature that had that combination), if you ran into it you WOULD die because it never gave you an action, thus it just kept attacking until you were dead.

Ended up with some pretty frustrated players there :)

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder Adventure Path / Jade Regent / I'm the invincible Kikonu! All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.