You use the stat changes granted by the spell.
You get the increase to reach and increased weapon damage dice. In all, the reach is the biggest benefit.
It's a 1st level spell and amazing for melee fighters. It's not going to make your high level eidolon much more amazing than it already is.
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You get the increase to reach and increased weapon damage dice. In all, the reach is the biggest benefit.
Anyone who thinks Enlarge is a rip-off has never seen a polearm fighter with Combat Reflexes or Quick Reflexes in action. Enlarge is arguably the most powerful 1st-level spell in the game in terms of how much extra damage and defensive utility it can grant a concept-built character exploiting reach and AoOs.
You get the increase to reach and increased weapon damage dice. In all, the reach is the biggest benefit.Anyone who thinks Enlarge is a rip-off has never seen a polearm fighter with Combat Reflexes or Quick Reflexes in action. Enlarge is arguably the most powerful 1st-level spell in the game in terms of how much extra damage and defensive utility it can grant a concept-built character exploiting reach and AoOs.
Very true. And it's also one of a handful of first level spells that are still worth an action (occasionally) in combat at higher levels, in support of that build. Also, makes an awesome wand, 1 minute duration is plenty for one fight.
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This.
You don't "lose out" on anything, since you're using enlarge to go beyond your normal size limitation. Or, in other words, without the spell you wouldn't even be getting the reach and str bonus.
Still, reduce might be more beneficial for that creature. AC bonuses and the ability to fight in places other than featureless plains :p
*laughs*
And I thought I was the only une using the Reduce spell (on party members) as a means of combat.
Ray-blasting mage gets an effective +2AC, plus an effective +2 to hit with his rays when reduced...
Righteous Might, a higher level cleric (or oracle) only spell, gives better benefits along with the size increase.
Think of the size increase and stats boost as a function of "how much power the spell will give". Should a 1st level spell be giving +8 or +16 strength bonus? Not really.. that's a little excessive for the cost involved.
Similar to how the polymorph spells were changed in pathfinder. Spell power now dictates how much benefit you get.
Wow, now that I look at it, Enlarge person is a ripoff, you get all the downsides of increased size, but virtually none of the benefits.
Anybody got a violin?
A small one will work.
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I think you really do need to look at balance when it comes to spell buffs in this case. The bonuses you're wanting out of the spell belong in the 4th to 6th level range of spells.
Honestly from experience enlarge person is seriously BA as a melee buff. You just have to weigh ALL of the benefits with ALL of the disadvantages.
Case in point: You can't charge a foe that's been enlarged from medium to large without provoking an attack.
Summoner is the new druid.
Well, after careful consideration, I have determined that what I actually should do is morph it to Large, then Reduce Person it to Medium. It can fit in dungeons, is still 6 Str ahead of the game, is 2 AC up, and only loses a step of damage, the spell only says it reduces your reach if you go from Small to Tiny.
Thank you for helping me beat the system.
/slowclap
Well played, well played!
Yeah, now I feel dirty, I need to go take a shower.many men sitting in front of a computer for prolonged periods of time could use a shower.
Now, now, I refrained from that cheap shot for a reason. ;p