Tonight during play our group was holed up in a dungeon and was ready to rest and regain much needed spells. While looking over the Alchemist class I saw nothing noting that they needed 8 hours of rest or an hour of preparation time like a Wizard needs. What is the rule for preparation time for Alchemists?
Tonight during play our group was holed up in a dungeon and was ready to rest and regain much needed spells. While looking over the Alchemist class I saw nothing noting that they needed 8 hours of rest or an hour of preparation time like a Wizard needs. What is the rule for preparation time for Alchemists?
extracts per day are like spells, reset after extended rest.
however
takes 1 minute to brew an extract meaning you don't need to prepare all extracts at the beginning of the day.
mutagen takes 1 hour to brew and no limit on number of time pwer day you can brew after using it.
Not every caster needs to rest. It doesn't say the alchemist needs to rest, only that he can make each extract slot once a day and each extract lasts one day.
An alchemist can create only a certain number of extracts of each level per day. His base daily allotment of extracts is given on Table: Alchemist. In addition, he receives bonus extracts per day if he has a high Intelligence score, in the same way a wizard receives bonus spells per day. When an alchemist mixes an extract, he infuses the chemicals and reagents in the extract with magic siphoned from his own magical aura. An extract immediately becomes inert if it leaves the alchemist’s possession, reactivating as soon as it returns to his keeping—an alchemist cannot normally pass out his extracts for allies to use (but see the “infusion” discovery below). An extract, once created, remains potent for 1 day before becoming inert, so an alchemist must re-prepare his extracts every day. Mixing an extract takes 1 minute of work—most alchemists prepare many extracts at the start of the day or just before going on an adventure, but it’s not uncommon for an alchemist to keep some (or even all) of his daily extract slots open so that he can prepare extracts in the field as needed.
He's a chemistry major, he's used to long hours.
Not every caster needs to rest. It doesn't say the alchemist needs to rest, only that he can make each extract slot once a day and each extract lasts one day.
same diff, sleep or no sleep, number of extracts per day = number of extracts per 24hrs
So it sounds like he gets X number of extracts a day. Once they're gone he can't make any more until 24 hours after they were last prepared. Is that about right?
So it sounds like he gets X number of extracts a day. Once they're gone he can't make any more until 24 hours after they were last prepared. Is that about right?
Yup.
So the alchemist wakes up, The first extract expires, he makes extract 1 at 6 o clock. At 6:01 he finishes, and his second extract expires, at 6:02 he finishes brewing his second extract and the third one expires.
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So it sounds like he gets X number of extracts a day. Once they're gone he can't make any more until 24 hours after they were last prepared. Is that about right?
More or less. There is a bit of vagueness around the phrase "Extracts per Day" which leaves a little wiggle room. For example if you prep an extract at 11pm on Friday most GMs don't make you wait until 11pm Saturday to prep it again.
So it sounds like he gets X number of extracts a day. Once they're gone he can't make any more until 24 hours after they were last prepared. Is that about right?More or less. There is a bit of vagueness around the phrase "Extracts per Day" which leaves a little wiggle room. For example if you prep an extract at 11pm on Friday most GMs don't make you wait until 11pm Saturday to prep it again.
Well, you don't want the alchemist waking up at 5:55 am tuesday, dowing all of his hour per level extracts (which were made at 6 am on monday), and then prepping ALL of his extracts at 6 am (since that's 24 hours from when they were made)
Utter cheese, ignores the intent and the more reasonable interpretations of raw, but thats what the DM's are trying to prevent.
What I still don't get is how the alchemist stuffs the expensive material component into the flask as he drinks it (since expensive material components happen at the time of consumption - presumably so that you're not wasting them on extracts that become inert the next day).
Well, if you want a cinematic explanation for how that expensive material component gets added and used up in a pre-made extract at the time of drinking it...I would say that that "spark of magic" the alchemist uses caused the material component to crumble in a vapor or dust which swirls up to drift into his potion as he drinks and thus magic extract super potion is born.
What I still don't get is how the alchemist stuffs the expensive material component into the flask as he drinks it (since expensive material components happen at the time of consumption - presumably so that you're not wasting them on extracts that become inert the next day).
put the expensive material component in when you start the day, the next day take it out and either wash it or if its soluble extract it from the elixir
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What I still don't get is how the alchemist stuffs the expensive material component into the flask as he drinks it (since expensive material components happen at the time of consumption - presumably so that you're not wasting them on extracts that become inert the next day).
Puts them in the flask?
You mean you aren't supposed to snort the diamond dust then slam the extract of restoration?
What I still don't get is how the alchemist stuffs the expensive material component into the flask as he drinks it (since expensive material components happen at the time of consumption - presumably so that you're not wasting them on extracts that become inert the next day).Puts them in the flask?
You mean you aren't supposed to snort the diamond dust then slam the extract of restoration?
Ow! The diamond dust would tear the exposed lobe of your brain to shreds! :)
if it was my call id go with 24 hours from when he last made his previous batch... none of this 12 to 1201 bs.
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if it was my call id go with 24 hours from when he last made his previous batch... none of this 12 to 1201 bs.
but extracts arent brewed in "batches"
it takes 1 minute to prep an extract, and you can do it at any point.
so you dont have to make 5 cures in the morning, you basically "spontaneous cast" with a minute prep time
What I still don't get is how the alchemist stuffs the expensive material component into the flask as he drinks it (since expensive material components happen at the time of consumption - presumably so that you're not wasting them on extracts that become inert the next day).
As a side note, think about the material component for holy water-5# of silver dust that fits into a 1 pint container!
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if it was my call id go with 24 hours from when he last made his previous batch... none of this 12 to 1201 bs.but extracts arent brewed in "batches"
Exactly.
I just take the queue from the player. If he's laid back and doesn't try to game the system then I don't worry about it. If he is trying to work things to get more than one per day (for example using long duration extracts from the prior 'day' then prepping new ones) then I'll rigidly enforce a 24 hour rule or something else that is likely more irritating for everyone than just going with the flow.