Please critique my fighterbuild (newbie here needing help)


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This is my build for the sword and board. The character is a dwarf, to the crit chain is out. Please Let me know what you think. I am very interested to see if people think that the step up chain is worth it. This is my first foray into pathfinder and I am just wanting this as a general guide. Any information you would provide would be very helpful and appreciated. This is a classic sword and board.

The build ( 25 point buy after racial)

str 17
dex 16
con 16
int 7
wis 13
cha 8

Level 1: Two-Weapon Fighting, Improved Shield Bash
Level 2: step up
Level 3: Power attack
Level 4: following step. (+1 dex)
Level 5: Combat Reflexes
Level 6: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 7: Shield Slam
Level 8: Improved Bull Rush (+1 STR)
Level 9: Greater Bull Rush
Level 10: Step up and Strike
Level 11: Shield Mastery
Level 12: weapon focus ( ax) (+1 STR)
Level 13: Iron will
Level 14: Double Slice
Level 15: Two-Weapon Rend
Level 16: Greater Weapon Focus [ax] (+1 Dex)
Level 17: Improved Iron Will
Level 18: Greater Two-Weapon Fighting (assuing I can get 2 inherent by now)
Level 19, 20: Either Critical Mastery, AC feats, Toughness, or whatever is looking best

Liberty's Edge

jacetms87 wrote:

This is my build for the sword and board. The character is a dwarf, to the crit chain is out. Please Let me know what you think. I am very interested to see if people think that the step up chain is worth it. This is my first foray into pathfinder and I am just wanting this as a general guide. Any information you would provide would be very helpful and appreciated. This is a classic sword and board.

The build ( 25 point buy after racial)

str 17
dex 16
con 16
int 7
wis 13
cha 8

Dwarf tin-can, eh? Hmm....

DEX too high; CON too low; CHA might as well be 5 if you're going to trash it.

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Level 1: Two-Weapon Fighting, Improved Shield Bash

Level 2: step up
Level 3: Power attack
Level 4: following step. (+1 dex)
Level 5: Combat Reflexes
With Ranger instead of fighter, you don't need DEX for TWF prerequisites. With an INT of 8 (instead of 7) you'd get 5 sk/lvl instead of just 1 as a non-human.
Quote:

Level 6: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting

Level 7: Shield Slam
Level 8: Improved Bull Rush (+1 STR)
Level 9: Greater Bull Rush
Level 10: Step up and Strike
Level 11: Shield Mastery
Level 12: weapon focus ( ax) (+1 STR)

Yeeg.... Has somebody been reading those color-coded "guide" things? :)

Try this for a 25pt dwarf with a shield:

STR:16
DEX:12
CON+18
INT:12
WIS+16
CHA-05

1. barb1 (drunk variant) Raging Vitality
2. figh2 (weapon master variant) Weapon Focus (waraxe)

equipment at 2nd: plate armor, tower shield

-- Now you're thinking, "WTF? Tower shield? I'm -2 att!"

And I reply: So? TWF also means you're -2 att. But if you rage, the extra STR neatly cancels the penalty. But then you're -2 AC if you rage, right? But DEX12+plate+tower gives you +3 vs DEX16+breatplate+hvy, so you're +1 ahead of the AC game with the same attack bonus, and tower shields grant real cover.

Only one real problem...shields are boring; and I don't care what the guides say.

So, nearly same stats except 14s for INT and WIS.

0. trait: Heirloom Weapon ("Ain't she a beauty?")
1. barb1 (drunk variant) Raging Vitality

....we are a dwarf; our virtue is mountains of hitpoints.

2. figh1 (weapon master variant) Combat Expertise
3. figh2 Improved Trip, WF:Gnome Hooked Hammer

....mwahahahaha.....

4. rang1 (urban variant), favored enemy, etc
5. rang2 TWF, Power Attack

....you can stop here, or take four more ranger levels for ITWF. Let's assume you stop.

6. barb2 Reckless Abandon +1 (rage power)
7. barb3 Greater trip

....somewhere around here you buy mithril full-plate

8. barb4 Reckless Abandon +2, Good for What Ails You (rage power)
9. figh3 Improved Critical:GHH
10 figh4 Critical Focus
11 figh5 ...etc

(All fighter levels from here.)


If he's trying to be a TWF, a tower shield is a terrible idea, as you can't shield bash with it, which is the entire point of the build. Going with either Light Spiked Steel Shield and a scimitar or Heavy Spiked Steel Shield with a shortsword (or cestus at 5, for shared Close weapon training benefits) is your best weapon option. Other than that, the build looks more or less standard for TWF shield builds. I assume you looked through Rogue Eidolon's Guide to Fighters or a similar guide.

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