Rage Prophet


Advice


Hey all,

So I am building a level 7 character to use in case my current one dies.

We can use the array 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10 OR a 15 point buy.

I am planing on the array as the campaign is about 50/50 RP to combat and I hate dumpstats.

Anyway, the character is going to be named Gorbath and here is his story... (well at least a tiny bit of it)

He started out a standard Barbarian in a standard tribe. at some point durring his 1st level all of the young ones were gathered together to see who was worthy to become the chosen of their god.

durring the final fight of the test he was injured in the leg but was victorious earning him the blessing of his god (he took one level in Oracle).

However the wound in his leg will never heal (Oracle "Lame" curse).

Thats about all i have currently.

The DM allows 2 flaws so I was going to use them to pick up Extra rage and Raging Vitality.

beyond that all I know is I plan to have him fight with a Falchion (why the hell not?)

What do you guys think as far as class breakdown?
Mostly Barbarian? Mostly Oracle?

The immune to fatigue seems to work well with rage.

Really any ideas would be great.

Silver Crusade

Your build is MAD on a 15 point buy. To make your character avarge you will need to dump Int or Wis or both. Over all i like oracle. I don't like rage prophet. The lose of caster levels will make it a melee only character. It's fine. Just need to know this character will not be the partys healer out side of wands.

Str 15+2Human=17
Dex 12
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 7
Cha 14
Or
Str 15+2Human=17
Dex 10
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 8
Cha 14
Or
Str 15+2Human=17
Dex 10
Con 14
Int 8
Wis 10
Cha 14


calagnar wrote:

Your build is MAD on a 15 point buy. To make your character avarge you will need to dump Int or Wis or both. Over all i like oracle. I don't like rage prophet. The lose of caster levels will make it a melee only character. It's fine. Just need to know this character will not be the partys healer out side of wands.

Str 15+2Human=17
Dex 12
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 7
Cha 14
Or
Str 15+2Human=17
Dex 10
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 8
Cha 14
Or
Str 15+2Human=17
Dex 10
Con 14
Int 8
Wis 10
Cha 14

Oh I realise he is going to be a Melee only. He sees himself as a Barbarian that is also blessed by his god.

I was planning on the Battle Oracle and useing the free quicken of cures while in combat.

Past that it should just be a fun character.

Sadly I have never actually built a Melee character for Pathfinder.

So any help is great.


With that array and the desire to be a primarily melee character I'd go:

Oracle 1/Barbarian 5/Rage Prophet 1

Str 18 (15+2@human+1@4th level)
Dex 12
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 11
Cha 13


While I like the idea of the Rage Prophet, it is unfortunately a somewhat poor prestige class. A caster oracle can get some use out of it (especially a gnome heavens oracle) but for a battle oracle, you are most likely better off with a pure oracle build and maybe one or two levels of barbarian. Personally I'd settle for 1 level for martial proficiency, a few rounds of rage and increased movement.

Well, to be honest, if I wanted a raging divine caster I'd rather play a Cleric or Inquisitor with the rage domain, especially if you start at level 7 so you only have one more level to go before you get rage. But that would probly not fit your roleplay.


While I agree that it has it's fair share of issues i really don't think it's that bad.

If I take Extra rage with a flaw (I can take 2)
Then even with one level of barbarian I get 10 rounds +con mod.

Once the Oracle is immune to fatigue you can turn rage on and off as often as you like to save rounds.

Really for the most part I agree that it is not the best, but the flavor has me hooked.


Thefurmonger wrote:
While I agree that it has it's fair share of issues i really don't think it's that bad.

Well, as I said, it's main flaw is that it does almost nothing for a melee character. I'd say even a pure battle oracle is better in melee combat thanks to the much higher caster level (earlier access to buffs, longer duration, better effects (on things like Divine Favor) much sooner).

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If I take Extra rage with a flaw (I can take 2)

Then even with one level of barbarian I get 10 rounds +con mod.

Personally I think it's a VERY big flaw that Rage Prophet doesn't grant additional rage rounds. If it did, you could psend that feat on something actually useful (like extra revelation or exra rage power). As it stands, it's an overly harsh feat tax.

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Once the Oracle is immune to fatigue you can turn rage on and off as often as you like to save rounds.

While this is a good bonus especially for spirit guide, it also renders your first (and possible only) rage power pretty much pointless.

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Really for the most part I agree that it is not the best, but the flavor has me hooked.

Can't argue against flavor :) Still think an Barbarian 1/Oracle x would accoomplish pretty much the same flavor while being just as good at fighting and a WAY better spellcaster.

Anyway, play however you see fit. Note however, that you'll need a pretty robust Constitution (15+) for raging vitality, which might be a bit hard to get for a MAD build like a rage prophet. Maybe you could get extra rage power or something like that instead.

Scarab Sages

I agree with Blave, and for story driven "flava", a warrior, wounded in battle and blessed by his god who continues serving his god as a Rage Prophet (oracle majority) seems very smart, especially as a Battle Oracle.

The spell casting can make you way more viable, while the base stuff from the barbarian keeps you as a solid fighter. Battle Oracles are nothing to sneeze at in combat either, and the extra rage makes you a very solid hitter.

my 2cp, YMMV

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