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Supposing a human multiclass fighter/(something else) character who takes Power Attack and Cleave at 1st-level -- but did not take fighter as his 1st-level class. Later, while advancing up through fighter levels, at fighter lvl:4 he wishes to trade out Cleave for a different combat feat.
May he, or is the feat in question "locked" at 1st because it was taken with a non-fighter class level?
I'd tend to say yes, since the feat wasn't taken as a fighter you can't treat it like a feat taken as a fighter. (yet I can't prove that)
Bonus Feats: At 1st level, and at every even level thereafter, a fighter gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained from normal advancement (meaning that the fighter gains a feat at every level). These bonus feats must be selected from those listed as combat feats, sometimes also called “fighter bonus feats.”
Upon reaching 4th level, and every four levels thereafter (8th, 12th, and so on), a fighter can choose to learn a new bonus feat in place of a bonus feat he has already learned. In effect, the fighter loses the bonus feat in exchange for the new one. The old feat cannot be one that was used as a prerequisite for another feat, prestige class, or other ability. A fighter can only change one feat at any given level and must choose whether or not to swap the feat at the time he gains a new bonus feat for the level.
It seems you are restricted to trading the bonus feats out, which I did not even realize until now.
Yar!
EDIT: Gar! Ninja'ed by a Wraith!
Thus proving the ninja's superiority over the pirate!
But... but ... he's not a ninja! He's just a burning skull!!
there is no rule that says a burning skull cant be a ninja
None of you are to speak on this matter. <disappears in a puff of smoke>
Being who I am, I will point out that it does not say 'Fighter Bonus Feat', it says 'Bonus Feat'. So technically, the 'Human Bonus Feat' counts. :)
Since you've already gone there: Consider all of the monsters that have bonus feats. This would let them swap those out for other feats too, rather than just swapping their HD-based feats :)
Which is wholly inferior to the DM's ability to swap ALL monster bonus feats at any level. :)
The DM should only be swapping the monster's regular feats, not the bonus feats. At least those are the rules I play by :)
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Yar!
But... but ... he's not a ninja! He's just a burning skull!!
Scorpion Wins!
Say you're a non-human fighter, and you take two combat feats at 1st level. If you want to swap one out later, can you choose either one, or do you have to decide beforehand which one was the "fighter bonus feat"?
Say you're a non-human fighter, and you take two combat feats at 1st level. If you want to swap one out later, can you choose either one, or do you have to decide beforehand which one was the "fighter bonus feat"?
You are supposed to decide before hand since one of the slot is supposed to qualify for combat feats only.
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