If i power attack with a 2 handed weapon that is Double how does that work?
Do i get the bonus because its 2 handed or not?
I asked my group and they say no not if im attacking twice. Im asking for verification and to satisfy my curiosity. Though i do have faith in what my Group has said.
Im using a Double Orc Axe.
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If i power attack with a 2 handed weapon that is Double how does that work?
Do i get the bonus because its 2 handed or not?
I asked my group and they say no not if im attacking twice. Im asking for verification and to satisfy my curiosity. Though i do have faith in what my Group has said.
Im using a Double Orc Axe.
The awesome thing about double weapons is that, unless you're actually making multiple attacks via Two-Weapon Fighting with them, they're considered 2-handed weapons.
However, if you ARE making your multiple attacks, then the weapon is treated as two one-handed weapons just as if you were wielding separate weapons.
Now, you can CHOOSE to only fight with one end of the weapon and treat it as a two-handed weapon if you have iterative attacks. A character with a BAB of +6/+1 and Improved Two-Weapon Fighting can either make two attacks (+6/+1) and treat his weapon as a 2-hander, or he can make 4 attacks (+4/+4/-1/-1) and treat them as one-handed.
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+1 to Fatespinner. That's correct
Minor, tiniest nitpick. If you TWF your weapon is treated as one-handed for your primary attacks (1xSTR) and light for your off-hand attacks (1/2xSTR)
Other than that (minor as it is) everything Fatespinner said is 100% correct.
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Minor, tiniest nitpick. If you TWF your weapon is treated as one-handed for your primary attacks (1xSTR) and light for your off-hand attacks (1/2xSTR)
Other than that (minor as it is) everything Fatespinner said is 100% correct.
Actually, ALL off-hand weapons deal 1/2xSTR modifier for damage, whether they are one-handed or light, unless you have the Double Slice feat.
But for the purposes of TWF penalties, the off-hand is considered light on a double weapon, yes. The attack bonuses I outlined in my example illustrate that fact (the TWF attacks are penalized -2/-2 instead of -4/-4).
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The only place that this gets odd is with monks and quarterstaves.
When the flurry with it, they get 1x str damage on all hits, even if they are only using one side of it. After reading it all, I would consider it as a one-handed weapon for power attack and the like, but I don't consider it too game breaking to allow it to act as a two handed. After all, there are not too many weapons that a monk can flurry with that are two-handed, and they all do fairly low damage by themselves.
the problem with your monk examples is. a there was already a silly long thread on wether they'd get 2h power attack which is best avoided, but also b the benefits for 2h power attack etc would add up quicky. flat static damage is usually better than random rolled damage. if your suggestion were allowed my temple sword wielding monk would never not use PA or 2 hands. it would add about 25 damage a round being able to do so.
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the problem with your monk examples is. a there was already a silly long thread on wether they'd get 2h power attack which is best avoided, but also b the benefits for 2h power attack etc would add up quicky. flat static damage is usually better than random rolled damage. if your suggestion were allowed my temple sword wielding monk would never not use PA or 2 hands. it would add about 25 damage a round being able to do so.
I did state:
"After reading it all, I would consider it as a one-handed weapon for power attack and the like..."edited to correct error.
If i power attack with a 2 handed weapon that is Double how does that work?
Do i get the bonus because its 2 handed or not?
I asked my group and they say no not if im attacking twice. Im asking for verification and to satisfy my curiosity. Though i do have faith in what my Group has said.
Im using a Double Orc Axe.
The awesome thing about double weapons is that, unless you're actually making multiple attacks via Two-Weapon Fighting with them, they're considered 2-handed weapons.
However, if you ARE making your multiple attacks, then the weapon is treated as two one-handed weapons just as if you were wielding separate weapons.
Now, you can CHOOSE to only fight with one end of the weapon and treat it as a two-handed weapon if you have iterative attacks. A character with a BAB of +6/+1 and Improved Two-Weapon Fighting can either make two attacks (+6/+1) and treat his weapon as a 2-hander, or he can make 4 attacks (+4/+4/-1/-1) and treat them as one-handed.
Where in the rules does it say this because i would like to read i belive you but it would be useful if anyone disagrees with me to know where its at because im 5th lvl Barb that turns 6th this friday and my BaB is going to be (+6/+1)
Thank you Fatespinner and eveyone else who posted
If i power attack with a 2 handed weapon that is Double how does that work?
Do i get the bonus because its 2 handed or not?
I asked my group and they say no not if im attacking twice. Im asking for verification and to satisfy my curiosity. Though i do have faith in what my Group has said.
Im using a Double Orc Axe.
The awesome thing about double weapons is that, unless you're actually making multiple attacks via Two-Weapon Fighting with them, they're considered 2-handed weapons.
However, if you ARE making your multiple attacks, then the weapon is treated as two one-handed weapons just as if you were wielding separate weapons.
Now, you can CHOOSE to only fight with one end of the weapon and treat it as a two-handed weapon if you have iterative attacks. A character with a BAB of +6/+1 and Improved Two-Weapon Fighting can either make two attacks (+6/+1) and treat his weapon as a 2-hander, or he can make 4 attacks (+4/+4/-1/-1) and treat them as one-handed.
Where in the rules does it say this because i would like to read i belive you but it would be useful if anyone disagrees with me to know where its at because im 5th lvl Barb that turns 6th this friday and my BaB is going to be (+6/+1)
Thank you Fatespinner and eveyone else who posted
It's under the equipment section. Says it 1 handed weapon but since you are using it with 2 hands you get 1 1/2 strength bonus. Here's the text from the PRD:
"Double: You can use a double weapon to fight as if fighting with two weapons, but if you do, you incur all the normal attack penalties associated with fighting with two weapons, just as if you were using a one-handed weapon and a light weapon. A double weapon can be wielded as a one-handed weapon, but it cannot be used as a double weapon when wielded in this way—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round."
It's under the equipment section. Says it 1 handed weapon but since you are using it with 2 hands you get 1 1/2 strength bonus. Here's the text from the PRD:
"Double: You can use a double weapon to fight as if fighting with two weapons, but if you do, you incur all the normal attack penalties associated with fighting with two weapons, just as if you were using a one-handed weapon and a light weapon. A double weapon can be wielded as a one-handed weapon, but it cannot be used as a double weapon when wielded in this way—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round."
Ok so i can use it like this
BAB (6/1)
6 with two weapon fighting gives me 2 attacks with first end of weapon
1 with two weapon fighting gives me 2 attacks with secnond end of weapon
but when i read
A double weapon can be wielded as a one-handed weapon, but it cannot be used as a double weapon when wielded in this way—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round.
it makes me think i can only get two attacks off with this weapon at any given round.