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Scarab Sages

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How can you give us new iconics that are from a book that will not be out for months when you have yet to finished the iconics from a book that came out 7 months ago.

I refer to the Witch, Summoner and Inquisitor from the Advanced Player's Guide.

We are still waiting. Patience has run out.


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Charles Scholz wrote:

How can you give us new iconics that are from a book that will not be out for months when you have yet to finished the iconics from a book that came out 7 months ago.

I refer to the Witch, Summoner and Inquisitor from the Advanced Player's Guide.

We are still waiting. Patience has run out.

Read to the end of the Blog. Where they tell you they Wayne and Paizo are donating the artwork for earthquake relief in Japan.


Don't you just hate charity?!

Dark Archive

Priorities, people! Nobody needs an Ustalav Companion in a timely fashion, it's not like there's a new AP starting there or anything...

Push that puppy back, and write up Iconic fiction for the Prestige Classes in the Core rulebook first. Does the Iconic Dragon Disciple look like a man who likes to be kept waiting? I've been waiting years to know if the Iconic Duelist is single? I likes me a woman who knows her way around a weapon, if ya know what I mean... 'Cause by weapon... Oh, nevermind.

[Srsly, there's gotta be a story behind that dwarven Iconic Loremaster and the Iconic Mystic Theurge of Nethys!]


Evil Lincoln wrote:
Don't you just hate charity?!

I say we take all that charity money and put it towards buying D&D from Hasbro.

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I'm really curious if the OP will have any witty comeback here.

Liberty's Edge

Charles Scholz wrote:

How can you give us new iconics that are from a book that will not be out for months when you have yet to finished the iconics from a book that came out 7 months ago.

I refer to the Witch, Summoner and Inquisitor from the Advanced Player's Guide.

We are still waiting. Patience has run out.

I’m kind of naively holding out hope that this was supposed to be some sort of sarcastic attempt at humor in some way.

It’s almost TOO demanding, antagonistic and presumptuous to be serious …


Marc Radle wrote:
Charles Scholz wrote:

How can you give us new iconics that are from a book that will not be out for months when you have yet to finished the iconics from a book that came out 7 months ago.

I refer to the Witch, Summoner and Inquisitor from the Advanced Player's Guide.

We are still waiting. Patience has run out.

I’m kind of naively holding out hope that this was supposed to be some sort of sarcastic attempt at humor in some way.

It’s almost TOO demanding, antagonistic and presumptuous to be serious …

Guys, chill, Op is probably feeling slightly lower than dirt right now.

Incidentally, if you have not donated to a reputable and trustworthy charity in regards to Japan, please do so, and make sure your donation will go towards the actual disaster. Ran into some Australian Red Cross tin-shakers today, got out about $10 in shratnel, went to put it in before asking "So, this is all for the Japanese quake? No charity dinners or wages for the 'volunteers', right?"

"No, some will go to paying for the volunteers, and we're keeping some for problems closer to home."

"Then you're employees, not volunteers, and nobody in Australia is looking at radiation poisoning at the moment. Sorry, I'll donate online to the actual Red Cross then."

CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ACTUALLY GIVING TO A REAL CHARITY ORGANISATION, AND THAT THE MONEY WILL ACTUALLY GO TO THE DAMN DISASTER.

Fraggin' Vultures, everywhere we go, I swear.


Charles Scholz is Banned! for missing that critical NOTE at the bottom about charity at the bottom.

Japan relief hater! ;)

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HalfOrcHeavyMetal wrote:

CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ACTUALLY GIVING TO A REAL CHARITY ORGANISATION, AND THAT THE MONEY WILL ACTUALLY GO TO THE DAMN DISASTER.

Fraggin' Vultures, everywhere we go, I swear.

Related, Dan Blatt posted here on the GP blog a list of suggested charities.

I won't contribute to the IRC for personal reasons, but wanted to include the ones he mentioned.


Charles Scholz wrote:

How can you give us new iconics that are from a book that will not be out for months when you have yet to finished the iconics from a book that came out 7 months ago.

I refer to the Witch, Summoner and Inquisitor from the Advanced Player's Guide.

We are still waiting. Patience has run out.

NERD RAGE!! GRRR!!!


Charles Scholz wrote:

How can you give us new iconics that are from a book that will not be out for months when you have yet to finished the iconics from a book that came out 7 months ago.

I refer to the Witch, Summoner and Inquisitor from the Advanced Player's Guide.

We are still waiting. Patience has run out.

Seriously? Even without the whole charity thing, that sounds like a near-lethal case of entitlement poisoning.


KaeYoss wrote:
Seriously? Even without the whole charity thing, that sounds like a near-lethal case of entitlement poisoning.

No doubt, dude!


Seems reasonable to me, KaeYoss. He's annoyed that Paizo is getting sidetracked with a completely separate book.
Of course, with the charity bit, it's an invalid complaint, but we all make mistakes.
*Grumbles about Boon Companion*


HalfOrcHeavyMetal wrote:
"Then you're employees, not volunteers, and nobody in Australia is looking at radiation poisoning at the moment. Sorry, I'll donate online to the actual Red Cross then."

The whole volunteer thing aside, earmarked donations can apparently be a real pain. The way I heard it, when you donate for a specific purpose, they can't use it for something else.

While I'm not saying they should swindle you into donating by telling you it's for Japan when it's actually for something else, the fact is that if enough people donate, matters might get to the point where some of the money would be better used elsewhere. Let's say that there is a huge amount of donations for Japan, and most of the money goes towards making life more bearable there, and things get to a point where things are relatively well again (relatively being the important word) but then, there is another catastrophe somewhere else and money is desperately needed there - much more than in Japan.

If you have donated for the specific purpose of helping Japan, they can't just help the people victimised by the new disaster for it.

In your example, going directly to the Red Cross with your donation is probably still a good idea, but don't tie them down with your donation. They won't ignore Japan to give themselves a big fat raise or anything, but if tomorrow, Australia has a nuclear power plant blow up in their faces, they might have divide their attention and funds so nobody's plight is ignored.

I read about this somewhere, but I can't remember where. It might have been from the Paizo boards even.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Seems reasonable to me, KaeYoss.

Not to me. "Patience has run out." That sounds like he has paid them good money to write the APG inconics' biographies and they are seen frequenting the local brothels each day instead of writing.

It sounds like an ultimatum.

It's all in the tone.


KaeYoss wrote:
It's all in the tone.

Don't get sarcastic with me.

Seriously, though. It sounds like he's been waiting for a while, and assumed that Paizo had forgotten about the APG and moved on to the next thing. Like a mixture of hype for a new book and ADD. :P

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As we explained in the comments section of the Meet the Iconics blog, we haven't skipped the other iconics, we simply did Hayato early so that we'd have a backstory for him when we sold the original art for charity tsunami relief. The others will be done as soon as we can find time, but right now the products we actually sell must remain the highest priority (at least until we're done with the Gen Con rush).

As has been noted, patience is a virtue, particularly regarding free things!

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Boy, did I start a firestorm.
Didn't mean to sound insensitive to the problems in Japan. Just meant to remind Paizo that with all the extra stuff they had time to put on the blog in the last 7 months, like wallpapers and other things, they could have finished the iconics.

I hereby ban myself from posting for 1 week.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

As much as we love our awesome art staff, I'm not sure we'd trust them to write up 1,200 word character backgrounds for our Iconic characters. Wallpapers take way less time than these backstories, too.


Also, if you look, I'm writing a lot of them and we're also spreading a lot of them around to more staff. There are a handful of people here who can write the awesome iconic backstories, while just about all of us could write your standard blog post.

I promise we'll get more Meet the Iconics. They're important to us, which is why we want them to be awesome, not just good.

Grand Lodge

I believe in player entitlement.

Scarab Sages

TriOmegaZero wrote:
I believe in player entitlement.

You know what I believe in....?

Spoiler:
BttH!!!!


TriOmegaZero wrote:
I believe in player entitlement.

Can I have a title?


Gruuuu wrote:
TriOmegaZero wrote:
I believe in player entitlement.
Can I have a title?

Gruuuu, you are now officially the Grand Poobah of Paizo. I present you with this big, fluffy ceremony hat befitting your high station, sir. Wear it in good health.


I had a idea...I don't know how feasable it is. You could have a 'Write the Background of a Icon' contests. In which the best one for each wins a prize...you could even have a $5 entry fee that could go to the Japnan relief fund.

Though reading all of those entries would probably eat up more time than writting it.

Liberty's Edge

HalfOrcHeavyMetal wrote:


Incidentally, if you have not donated to a reputable and trustworthy charity in regards to Japan, please do so, and make sure your donation will go towards the actual disaster. Ran into some Australian Red Cross tin-shakers today, got out about $10 in shratnel, went to put it in before asking "So, this is all for the Japanese quake? No charity dinners or wages for the 'volunteers', right?"

"No, some will go to paying for the volunteers, and we're keeping some for problems closer to home."

"Then you're employees, not volunteers, and nobody in Australia is looking at radiation poisoning at the moment. Sorry, I'll donate online to the actual Red Cross then."

CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ACTUALLY GIVING TO A REAL CHARITY ORGANISATION, AND THAT THE MONEY WILL ACTUALLY GO TO THE DAMN DISASTER.

Fraggin' Vultures, everywhere we go, I swear.

Hmmm ... I made an extra donation to the Australian Red Cross in March for Japan Disaster Relief ... I hope that's really where the money is going. I think maybe I got suckered (well, I donate to the Red Cross on a monthly basis anyway, but this was an extra payment that I was led to believe was specifically for the disaster).

Lantern Lodge

If you really want to make sure you know where your money goes check charitywatch.org. You will see there red cross isn't as good as others on getting money to those in need.

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