I'd pay as much as $50. Maybe more.
What size?
I'd pay $30 for an 8-panel version.
$1.00
*hoping that everyone else over-bids*
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We printed out some full-size non-folded versions of this map on thick, good quality paper.
Printing it on vinyl and then shipping it in rolled to prevent creases would add a not-insignificant amount to the cost (remember, we have to ship it not only to you, the customer, but to us from the printer).
Printing out the less-expensive version on a giant piece of thick paper locally cost us, I believe, about $250.00.
I'm pretty sure that selling a vinyl version of this map as one map, at full-size and without folds, would cost the paying customer well in excess of $300.00.
Not sure how viable such a product would be. I would probably buy it though... :-/
I think a map/poster about the size of the Eberron one that comes with the DM screen would work. I would suggest any buyers have it laminated quickly though. The paper might tear pretty easily. I don't know how big Golarion is supposed to be so we might need 2 maps/posters. If it was of a good size and detail that would work.
Doing a map of each nation might also work.
I do want a map/poster with good detail though. I can make do with paper, and just get it laminated on my own.
I'm pretty sure that selling a vinyl version of this map as one map, at full-size and without folds, would cost the paying customer well in excess of $300.00.Then how did Fiery Dragon manage to sell a 48" and 70"x48" vinyl map of Ptolus for $48 and $85 respectively?
Just curious...
Before James gets back to correct they may have not have had the detail that the Golarion map will have. The less the map is detailed the less it should cost.
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I'm pretty sure that selling a vinyl version of this map as one map, at full-size and without folds, would cost the paying customer well in excess of $300.00.Then how did Fiery Dragon manage to sell a 48" and 70"x48" vinyl map of Ptolus for $48 and $85 respectively?
Just curious...
I'm also curious!
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I wouldnt pay a dime for it as I have no such place to put it.
so I dont want it
Is there really a point to this post?
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I'd pay as much as $50. Maybe more.
Have to share in the mind-blowing awesomeness that I received this weekend.
Now I just need a place to hang it.
Also it looks like its about $58 for a map this size to be printed from this company.
The material used is that which is used for outdoor signs and banners, so up really close you can see some ridges in it, but even point blank it looks great.
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I'd pay as much as $50. Maybe more.Have to share in the mind-blowing awesomeness that I received this weekend.
Now I just need a place to hang it.
Also it looks like its about $58 for a map this size to be printed from this company.
The material used is that which is used for outdoor signs and banners, so up really close you can see some ridges in it, but even point blank it looks great.
That is awesome! I wanna get one too...
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I'm also curious!I'm pretty sure that selling a vinyl version of this map as one map, at full-size and without folds, would cost the paying customer well in excess of $300.00.Then how did Fiery Dragon manage to sell a 48" and 70"x48" vinyl map of Ptolus for $48 and $85 respectively?
Just curious...
Talk to Gale Force Nine. They're doing a lot vinyl mats with D&D licensing. The one for the Dark Sun setting is fairly decent sized, and only $40 retail. Maybe they can do them for you.
We printed out some full-size non-folded versions of this map on thick, good quality paper.
Printing it on vinyl and then shipping it in rolled to prevent creases would add a not-insignificant amount to the cost (remember, we have to ship it not only to you, the customer, but to us from the printer).
Printing out the less-expensive version on a giant piece of thick paper locally cost us, I believe, about $250.00.
I'm pretty sure that selling a vinyl version of this map as one map, at full-size and without folds, would cost the paying customer well in excess of $300.00.
Not sure how viable such a product would be. I would probably buy it though... :-/
After seing the post on the main page about Gale Force Nine's D&D maps, it made me think of this thread.
So, it can be done for cheaper than $300+. Talked to Gale Force Nine? :)
I'd pay as much as $50. Maybe more.Have to share in the mind-blowing awesomeness that I received this weekend.
Nice map!
But, more importantly, how did you balance that blue wine bottle on top of your head? Amazing! :-)
Maybe if we all pooled our money together, we could, as an adventuring group, collectively own one! lol
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We printed out some full-size non-folded versions of this map on thick, good quality paper.
Printing it on vinyl and then shipping it in rolled to prevent creases would add a not-insignificant amount to the cost (remember, we have to ship it not only to you, the customer, but to us from the printer).
Printing out the less-expensive version on a giant piece of thick paper locally cost us, I believe, about $250.00.
I'm pretty sure that selling a vinyl version of this map as one map, at full-size and without folds, would cost the paying customer well in excess of $300.00.
Not sure how viable such a product would be. I would probably buy it though... :-/
After seing the post on the main page about Gale Force Nine's D&D maps, it made me think of this thread.
So, it can be done for cheaper than $300+. Talked to Gale Force Nine? :)
Assuming that company can handle printing thousands and thousands of them in short order... we'd also have to pay for the shipping and storage of the map, which would bring our cost up a bit higher than the $58. And we'd want to make a profit on it, since Paizo's a company, not a charity, so suddenly we're actually getting closer to at least a hundred or two to the customer anyway.
Don't get me wrong—if folks want to pay Paizo a few hundred for a vinyl map... woo hoo! But remember that what WE pay to get it printed (and shipped to us and stored by us) isn't what we would charge YOU to buy it.
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Assuming that company can handle printing thousands and thousands of them in short order... we'd also have to pay for the shipping and storage of the map, which would bring our cost up a bit higher than the $58. And we'd want to make a profit on it, since Paizo's a company, not a charity, so suddenly we're actually getting closer to at least a hundred or two to the customer anyway.
Don't get me wrong—if folks want to pay Paizo a few hundred for a vinyl map... woo hoo! But remember that what WE pay to get it printed (and shipped to us and stored by us) isn't what we would charge YOU to buy it.
And despite those factors, somehow Gale Force Nine has it licked -- or at least thinks they do. Isn't that worth an inquiry?
I'd gladly pay $50 for a nice vinyl map of the Inner Sea.
$100.
I want something that I can throw out onto the table (without worrying about it tearing). I enjoy the inner Sea Map, but am always afraid to use it/have anything near it for fear of damage.
Because almost nothing beats the joy of pointing out to a giant map and saying, "THERE! That's where the bad guy's country is!"
Assuming that company can handle printing thousands and thousands of them in short order... we'd also have to pay for the shipping and storage of the map, which would bring our cost up a bit higher than the $58. And we'd want to make a profit on it, since Paizo's a company, not a charity, so suddenly we're actually getting closer to at least a hundred or two to the customer anyway.
Don't get me wrong—if folks want to pay Paizo a few hundred for a vinyl map... woo hoo! But remember that what WE pay to get it printed (and shipped to us and stored by us) isn't what we would charge YOU to buy it.
If YOU (Paizo) are charging US under $40 per map from Gale Force Nine on the Paizo Store...
The minis thing is working great with someone else making them... just sayin'...
I'm really surprised there hasn't been more interest shown in an affordable vinyl Inner Sea Map.
I'm really surprised there hasn't been more interest show in an affordable vinyl Inner Sea Map.
And I'm a little surprised by Paizo's apparent reaction ("can't be done for a reasonable cost") in spite of the fact that they're selling an nearly identical product on their website. At the very least I'd expect them to say "we're looking into it."
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I'm really surprised there hasn't been more interest show in an affordable vinyl Inner Sea Map.And I'm a little surprised by Paizo's apparent reaction ("can't be done for a reasonable cost") in spite of the fact that they're selling an nearly identical product on their website. At the very least I'd expect them to say "we're looking into it."
The people who would look into it are not me. The people who know how much it would cost for us to pull something like this off, again, are not me.
I can run it up the ladder to the people who DO make those decisions, and if as folks imply in this thread it actually IS something that we can do that is affordable AND is something we can find a way to print, ship, store, etc. AND it's something that folks are asking for... we'll see.
Now that we actually have an all-paid-for giant-sized file of the Inner Sea Region, of coruse, that's a HUGE part of the cost taken care of.
That brings up another point, though... would it be a good idea for us to obsolete our current Inner Sea Map Folio by printing a vinyl version? Probably not. Competing against our own products is not a good route.
That brings up another point, though... would it be a good idea for us to obsolete our current Inner Sea Map Folio by printing a vinyl version? Probably not. Competing against our own products is not a good route.
That was my presumption - a rolled vinyl version wouldn't be a perfect substitute, but it would be close. Having said that, your APs are competing with each other yet you still sell PDFs of out of print instalments, so it's not without precedent.
To answer the OP, I'd pay $50 I think - though I'd prefer it to be different (in some sense) to the inner sea map folio.
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That was my presumption - a rolled vinyl version wouldn't be a perfect substitute, but it would be close. Having said that, your APs are competing with each other yet you still sell PDFs of out of print instalments, so it's not without precedent.
Each AP is an entirely different adventure; they don't compete with each other any more than two different novels or two different books compete with each other.
Putting out a vinyl map would be more akin to reprinting an AP on different paper stock.
That was my presumption - a rolled vinyl version wouldn't be a perfect substitute, but it would be close. Having said that, your APs are competing with each other yet you still sell PDFs of out of print instalments, so it's not without precedent.Each AP is an entirely different adventure; they don't compete with each other any more than two different novels or two different books compete with each other.
Putting out a vinyl map would be more akin to reprinting an AP on different paper stock.
Fair comment though I would argue there's some level of competition, given the occasional comment from customers not buying APs on the grounds that they have enough.
I take your point that it's not a very close analogy though.
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That was my presumption - a rolled vinyl version wouldn't be a perfect substitute, but it would be close. Having said that, your APs are competing with each other yet you still sell PDFs of out of print instalments, so it's not without precedent.Each AP is an entirely different adventure; they don't compete with each other any more than two different novels or two different books compete with each other.
Putting out a vinyl map would be more akin to reprinting an AP on different paper stock.
Seriously. Can you imagine what would happen if Paizo started competing with it's own products? You'd end up with something like three versions of the Inner Sea World Guide, and no one wants that.
[Robocop]I'd buy that for a dollar![/robocop]
Assuming that company can handle printing thousands and thousands of them in short order... we'd also have to pay for the shipping and storage of the map, which would bring our cost up a bit higher than the $58. And we'd want to make a profit on it, since Paizo's a company, not a charity, so suddenly we're actually getting closer to at least a hundred or two to the customer anyway.
But I (with I meaning the average customer) could go to some company like Ghaele Force Nine (which is what it name should be ;-)), give them the PDF and let them make me such a map, right? I mean, without breaking any rule or law or your hearts and considering that this map wouldn't be used commercially in any way (i.e. it would probably be put on a wall in my house).
That should fall under using the PDF for private stuff.
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Seriously. Can you imagine what would happen if Paizo started competing with it's own products? You'd end up with something like three versions of the Inner Sea World Guide, and no one wants that.That was my presumption - a rolled vinyl version wouldn't be a perfect substitute, but it would be close. Having said that, your APs are competing with each other yet you still sell PDFs of out of print instalments, so it's not without precedent.Each AP is an entirely different adventure; they don't compete with each other any more than two different novels or two different books compete with each other.
Putting out a vinyl map would be more akin to reprinting an AP on different paper stock.
I know you're being snarky...
But the Inner Sea World Guide came out AFTER the previous edition sold out. Again... incorrect analogy.
If and when we sell out of the Inner Sea Map Folio, THAT is a perfect time for us to decide if we want to reprint it as a big giant expensive-to-ship vinyl map.
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Assuming that company can handle printing thousands and thousands of them in short order... we'd also have to pay for the shipping and storage of the map, which would bring our cost up a bit higher than the $58. And we'd want to make a profit on it, since Paizo's a company, not a charity, so suddenly we're actually getting closer to at least a hundred or two to the customer anyway.But I (with I meaning the average customer) could go to some company like Ghaele Force Nine (which is what it name should be ;-)), give them the PDF and let them make me such a map, right? I mean, without breaking any rule or law or your hearts and considering that this map wouldn't be used commercially in any way (i.e. it would probably be put on a wall in my house).
That should fall under using the PDF for private stuff.
That's exactly where that falls.
If you buy a PDF, you can print it out to your heart's content. You just can't sell those printouts, nor can you flood the market with them for free. Those printouts have to remain private.
I see no difference between printing out a copy of the inner sea region on a 1987 dot matrix printer or printing it out at a professional modern printer on a vinyl map. Aside, of course, from likely differences in quality.
Competing against our own products is not a good route.
Putting out a vinyl map would be more akin to reprinting an AP on different paper stock.
I already have a paper map of the Inner Sea. I still want a vinyl one. Why? Simple...I can take the vinyl one to PFS games without fear of wear and tear. So while it may be a substitute from your personal point of view, and perhaps even from the point of view of many of your customers, I don't think it's fair to declare it a substitute for everyone. I, for one, will continue to ignore the Inner Sea Map Folio because it is impractical for my purposes, but would happily buy the hypothetical vinyl version.
This is going to be my final comment on the matter. If you decide your want my $50, consider making a vinyl map. Or don't -- it's up to you guys. I just thought you might like to know. :)
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I know you're being snarky...
But the Inner Sea World Guide came out AFTER the previous edition sold out. Again... incorrect analogy.
If and when we sell out of the Inner Sea Map Folio, THAT is a perfect time for us to decide if we want to reprint it as a big giant expensive-to-ship vinyl map.
I snark out of love... :)
But seriously, what about considering the option for the first Golarion map?
That brings up another point, though... would it be a good idea for us to obsolete our current Inner Sea Map Folio by printing a vinyl version? Probably not. Competing against our own products is not a good route.
I would look at it like a car company making low-end and high-end cars. Is that company competing with itself?
I also would like a nice vinyl map of Golarion.
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That brings up another point, though... would it be a good idea for us to obsolete our current Inner Sea Map Folio by printing a vinyl version? Probably not. Competing against our own products is not a good route.I would look at it like a car company making low-end and high-end cars. Is that company competing with itself?
I also would like a nice vinyl map of Golarion.
Turns out, if enough people ask for a nice vinyl map of Golarion... we might look into it. You might wanna ask on more than one thread.
But seriously, what about considering the option for the first Golarion map?I'd rather that product be a globe.
That would absolutely rock!
But seriously, what about considering the option for the first Golarion map?I'd rather that product be a globe.
I would pay crazy good money for this.
But seriously, what about considering the option for the first Golarion map?I'd rather that product be a globe.
I'd like a globe too!