The way the story goes, Erik walked into the copy shop with a disc holding the map of the Inner Sea Region and asked the employee there to make the image as big as he could.
"Okay, here we go," the man said, holding up a sheet maybe two feet high.
"I don't think you understand," Erik replied. "I need this big."
Thus it was that last Friday, Erik and Wes came into the office holding a map of the Inner Sea Region that, when unrolled, measured seven feet tall and six feet across. As we all stood around it in shock, looking down on it in mingled wonder and terror, I think the same two thoughts were in everyone's brains. Here was the world we'd created...
...and now we needed to fill it.
For of course that's why we had the map printed. With the forthcoming World Guide: The Inner Sea (a revised and expanded version of the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting hardcover, fully updated to the Pathfinder RPG) and the Inner Sea Poster Map Folio, it's time for us to finally buckle down and crank our own obsessive tendencies to the max as we attempt to place every location that's featured in a Pathfinder game product in its appropriate place. And of course, as if that madness weren't enough, the forthcoming world guide also presents a ton of new adventure locations and notable sites for regions that previously only had a few dots on a map. While there are still countless places left open for GMs to populate and describe as they see fit, this is our attempt to create something truly comprehensive to satisfy even the most detail-oriented GMs.
This, of course, is madness. I'm sure that within a month, we'll all be gibbering on the floor as the ink staining our fingertips reaches toxic levels. But until then, the Map will be on the wall, watching us, daring us to try to fill it in. How much of our hubristic attempt to catch everything makes it into the final map folio is anyone's guess—it may be that printing every tag would result in type too small to see with the naked eye—but you'll know when you see it that the Paizo editorial team gave their all to make it as accurate as they could, boldly chucking interns and coworkers into the line of fire. That's how much we care!
Though once all the other regions beyond the Inner Sea get mapped out the complete world map might be big enough to satisfy me. ;-)
I'll second that. I love world maps and for many years had an entire wall of my bedroom covered by the 2 Trail Maps TSR produced that detailed the Known World setting (later named Mystara). I will be getting this map, and hopefully in the not too distant future, others covering places like Casmaron (which sounds amazing, and I'm hopeful that will be the area covered in the next world guide book you guys do).
This, of course, is madness. I'm sure that within a month, we'll all be gibbering on the floor as the ink staining our fingertips reaches toxic levels.
I too love maps and at one point in the late 70's had one bedroom wall playing host to the entire Wilderlands of High Fantasy and another one graced with the World of Greyhawk
Ok, for a campaign setting map, that's a pretty big wall poster. Now on those lines, how in the world did you get all those Paizo people to stick to the wall like that?
Last time I hired Escher Architects, Inc., I was only offered the option of floor or ceiling for the gravitational source. (I ended up offering the job to Doofenschmirtz Evil, Inc., since they threw in the Anti-Gravity Evil Launchinator for free, even though it didn't really solve my problem.)
This, of course, is madness. I'm sure that within a month, we'll all be gibbering on the floor as the ink staining our fingertips reaches toxic levels.
James... They don't sell those GOOD inks anymore. India Ink's quite digestable... if not terribly healthy :P
On another note, I've had waaay too much experience with this.
I think this has been brought up before, but what are the chances of seeing you guys put a map tool on the website. I'd love an interactive map with pins representing the various AP locations. I realize it'd be hard to put up, but would be a really great tool (for you and for us) and you could update it as new adventures come out.
I think this has been brought up before, but what are the chances of seeing you guys put a map tool on the website. I'd love an interactive map with pins representing the various AP locations. I realize it'd be hard to put up, but would be a really great tool (for you and for us) and you could update it as new adventures come out.
But if they did that, then they couldn't sell us products like this one and the inevitable update every couple of years with more locations. and we wouldn't have nice huge maps.
...well i supoiose they could at that. and most people would buy them anyway, but the point remains...I think.
..."as we attempt to place every location that's featured in a Pathfinder game product in its appropriate place. And of course, as if that madness weren't enough..."
...Madness? That's a minimum expectation for a published setting, AFAIC.
..."as we attempt to place every location that's featured in a Pathfinder game product in its appropriate place. And of course, as if that madness weren't enough..."
...Madness? That's a minimum expectation for a published setting, AFAIC.
Actually, it's not the minimum expectation. As far as I know, there's not been that many attempts to put every location onto a map like this. Two of them (one for Forgotten Realms and later one for Greyhawk) were actually done by Paizo. Both of them were horrifically complicated processes. Trust me, it is indeed a certain level of madness to try to pull this off.
Will there be a new map, or is it going to be an update the previous one?
It's going to be an update, with much greater detail in terms of both tags and natural features. But Rob Lazzaretti is still doing it, so it'll have much the same style.
And my multiple 2e FR regional poster maps are labeled with everything at the times of their publication. *shrug* In any case, it's my minimum expectation when purchasing a setting that's not from the 70's or 80's... I got it with FR.
:D Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's some caveats in there (no/select novels, only if it fits on the given map scale...) [Edit: But then, I just think about the FR Atlas, and I'm confident it's not that dangerous of a claim...!]
But surely, then, you must have some caveats in your (admittedly awesome) endeavor, no?
I think this has been brought up before, but what are the chances of seeing you guys put a map tool on the website. I'd love an interactive map with pins representing the various AP locations. I realize it'd be hard to put up, but would be a really great tool (for you and for us) and you could update it as new adventures come out.
I'm doing something like this right now in my paying job -- rendering GIS data in an interactive, browser-based pan & zoom map (using Mapnik & OpenLayers).
In order to do this, all of the map data would have be converted to shapes -- that means all locations expressed as lat/lon points, and all boundaries as polygons of lat/lon coordinates.
If I had this data in GDAL shapefiles I could probably set up a such a webpage on Amazon EC2 over a long weekend.
I'd really love a version that folds up like a road map. Wizards had a few of these they produced, and the FR one was amazingly huge, and at the time was the first to explore off the edge of any previously published map of the realms.
I think this has been brought up before, but what are the chances of seeing you guys put a map tool on the website. I'd love an interactive map with pins representing the various AP locations. I realize it'd be hard to put up, but would be a really great tool (for you and for us) and you could update it as new adventures come out.
Amen. I'd like to see pins for all product locations. It would help me find other products to add to the APs.
I just hope you don't try to over-populate it. I really liked the Forgotten Realms in the beginning, but then it just became more work to find a place to adventure in that didn't have its story already told a hundred times over.
It's nice when a world feels like it is alive, not like it has already lived...
Do you think it would be possible to just put some dots on the map and plan your stories (AP etc.) around the dots, but tell us that you are doing it so we don't explore them ourselves before they are ready?
I just hope you don't try to over-populate it. I really liked the Forgotten Realms in the beginning, but then it just became more work to find a place to adventure in that didn't have its story already told a hundred times over.
It's nice when a world feels like it is alive, not like it has already lived...
Do you think it would be possible to just put some dots on the map and plan your stories (AP etc.) around the dots, but tell us that you are doing it so we don't explore them ourselves before they are ready?
Actually, we feel much the same way—overdoing the continuity is lame, and a world should inspire more than it proscribes. A lot of the dots will be for things that have been mentioned but not heavily detailed... relatively few will have been the direct focus of an adventure (we just haven't published that many), and most of the new stuff you see will be new adventure hooks that we introduce and then leave alone, so you can do what you like with them. (For examples of that style, see some of the gazetteers like Kyonin, Varisia, or Belkzen in Pathfinder.) Rest assured, there will still be plenty of room for GMs to put whatever they want!
The only thing I learned from this blog post is that in order to work at Paizo you must master the appearance of being nonchalant with your hands in your pockets.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that everyone at Paizo has horrible mangled hands from writing non-stop in the Dungeon of Jacobs.
I just hope you don't try to over-populate it. I really liked the Forgotten Realms in the beginning, but then it just became more work to find a place to adventure in that didn't have its story already told a hundred times over.
It's nice when a world feels like it is alive, not like it has already lived...
Do you think it would be possible to just put some dots on the map and plan your stories (AP etc.) around the dots, but tell us that you are doing it so we don't explore them ourselves before they are ready?
Actually, we feel much the same way—overdoing the continuity is lame, and a world should inspire more than it proscribes. A lot of the dots will be for things that have been mentioned but not heavily detailed... relatively few will have been the direct focus of an adventure (we just haven't published that many), and most of the new stuff you see will be new adventure hooks that we introduce and then leave alone, so you can do what you like with them. (For examples of that style, see some of the gazetteers like Kyonin, Varisia, or Belkzen in Pathfinder.) Rest assured, there will still be plenty of room for GMs to put whatever they want!
Thank you. I love the work you guys do. I haven't been ass interested in a world in decades as I am in Golarion.
Please, please, please, please, please make a map of this size available for purchase! Or at least make available a high resolution PDF or JPEG of the map so I can go to my local print shop to have them print out a giant color map for my gaming room.
Please, please, please, please, please make a map of this size available for purchase! Or at least make available a high resolution PDF or JPEG of the map so I can go to my local print shop to have them print out a giant color map for my gaming room.
That'd be expensive. Several hundred dollars, it turns out. Fortunately, as Gorbacz points out above, we'll be printing a much less expensive version of the final map later this year.