Round 2 Playtesting for Samurai

[Kyle Smith, Role Player]

I'm unfamiliar with Paizo's playtesting strategy and I saw the Gunslinger Round 2 uploaded. Does this mean that the Samurai (and Ninja) don't require another round of playtesting or will they get another round at another date?

[BobChuck]

It means that, as of right now or maybe even as of 2-3 weeks ago, Paizo feels/felt that they had received enough feedback on the Samurai and Ninja to proceed with the next round of internal design and testing.

Comparatively, the gunslinger was a disaster. The class was all but unplayable until 11th level, when it suddenly exploded into...something that still wasn't as good as a Ranger Archer. There were multiple community variants that rebuilt the class from the ground up and were significantly more stable without being overpowered. There was a variant rule involving pickles that made the gunslinger work significantly better.

It needed a second round of playtesting much more than the other two.

None of the above means that Samuari and Nija won't get another round of playtesting, but it does probably mean that it won't happen for a while.

Ultimate Combat is still, what, 5-6 months away? There's time.

[Dragonborn3]

BobChuck wrote:

There was a variant rule involving pickles that made the gunslinger work significantly better.

It will make my day if you have a link to this rule.

[BobChuck]

Dragonborn3 wrote:

BobChuck wrote:

There was a variant rule involving pickles that made the gunslinger work significantly better.

It will make my day if you have a link to this rule.

Round 2 playtest: my summary of the Pickle Rule

Round 1 playtest: Purple Dragon Knight's initial presentation of the idea. Which, incidentally, is both a "live" evolution of an amazing idea and a hilarious read; if you've got time I highly recommend it.

[Kyle Smith, Role Player]

Thanks, I look forward to seeing what Paizo turns the Samurai into from the latest playtesting.