This will certainly date me - My 1st computer class used a paper ribbon to record the programs. It was a major upgrade when we started using cassette tapes later on.
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20 Go To 10Meltdown! MWAHAHAHA!
Nekkid circular command for ToP?!
I'm having BASIC flashbacks reading that.
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10 INPUT "What is your name: ", U$
20 PRINT "Hello "; U$
30 INPUT "How many stars do you want: ", N
40 S$ = ""
50 FOR I = 1 TO N
60 S$ = S$ + "*"
70 NEXT I
80 PRINT S$
90 INPUT "Do you want more stars? ", A$
100 IF LEN(A$) = 0 THEN GOTO 90
110 A$ = LEFT$(A$, 1)
120 IF A$ = "Y" OR A$ = "y" THEN GOTO 30
130 PRINT "Goodbye "; U$
140 END
20 minutes till friday night game.
we finished Crypt of the everflame and now play "Fangs from the Past" a pathfinder basic module by Oonegame
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Stuff about payroll and computer illiteracy
As the person who does Paizo's payroll: I feel your pain, man.
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I imagine you're one of the good ones, Chris. One of the calls where I say something that actually makes me nervous like, "You'll have to transfer your data to a new spreadsheet," and they say, "That's easy, I have a template saved that I can copy and paste onto," and I wipe my brow with sweet relief that I've got a client who knows what they are doing.
CH I have calls like that, of course they are with network admins at places like Nasdaq.....
What convention, Monkey?
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TotalCon in Mansfield PRoMA. Ongoing now, but I will be there Saturday, as will be that godless Bolshegobbo who posts here occasionally, Gruumash the gourmand, and our own Podcaster of Puissance: The Jade
Very cool. Snap a pic and throw it online for us to oogle.
I'm picking the boys up today, but supposed to drop them off instead of bring them here. Should I take White Plume Mountain, ya know, Just In Case?
Does anybody else really enjoy seeing little Sam Gamgee being pals with Shortround?
Hey, I LOVE the Oregon Trail!
So I'm taking a basic computer course this semester because I wanted to learn the finer points of Excel and Power Point and so help me that conversation sounds almost exactly like some of my classmates. The first week of class was....there aren't words. I'm not sure if they're that stupid or they've just been living under a rock, with one free pass for the two people in their seventies who have an at least understandable excuse. The guy who was retaking the class because he'd failed it once...HOW?!I fondly remember my first computer class, around 93 I guess, one of my classmates managed to "format C" roughly 5 minutes before we where allowed to even start the computer :-) teacher said it was a new recordlol. Yeah, my first computer class was...uh, junior high? I remember it not so fondly. Oregon fricking trail. Basically you had an hour to complete a mindlessly simple assignment. So I was usually done in five minutes. And if you were done early you got to play Oregon Trail as a reward....it's not that rewarding when you're done early every day. I'm still trying to figure out how some people actually had a hard time finishing in the hour alloted...
Too bad I forgot most of the crap I learned back then and have to retake it all now anyways. :)
[gingerbread man] You're a monster! [/gingerbread man]
This will certainly date me - My 1st computer class used a paper ribbon to record the programs. It was a major upgrade when we started using cassette tapes later on.
10 Go To 20
20 Go To 10Meltdown! MWAHAHAHA!
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10 INPUT "What is your name: ", U$
20 PRINT "Hello "; U$
30 INPUT "How many porn stars do you want: ", N
40 S$ = ""
50 FOR I = 1 TO N
60 S$ = S$ + "*"
70 NEXT I
80 PRINT S$
90 INPUT "Do you want more porn stars? ", A$
100 IF LEN(A$) = 0 THEN GOTO 90
110 A$ = LEFT$(A$, 1)
120 IF A$ = "Y" OR A$ = "y" THEN GOTO 30
130 PRINT "Goodbye "; U$
140 END
Nerf toss! Now, there's a program I can relate to!
I loved the turtle myself.
I'm having BASIC flashbacks reading that.
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My partner has been having a really tough time with being unemployed. I'm trying my best to keep him positive, but he's heard the usual chin-up stuff too many times. If you don't mind my asking, what sort of coping method would you recommend?After a month of waiting, I just found out I didn't get the job. Only thing I can do now is re-apply at all of the other places I applied at before.*job stuff*
I don't have one. I honestly don't know where to start. I give it another month before the cracks start to show.
Sorry I wasn't the ray of sunshine that you wanted, but I'm kind of at a loss here.
My advice after a lengthy stay of unemployment.
Pride is your enemy: Take a job, even if it isn't 'in your field'. Hell I went from salesman to barrista. And you know what? I'm happier now than I was at my sales job.
This too shall pass: We've been in downtimes for a few years now. It has to turn around sometime. Hopefully sooner than later.
Think laterally: Maybe now is the time to try and market that cool idea you had. Maybe, it is time to try and make a hobby or an interest into your new job.
Never sit and brood: Hard advice to take, I was way guilty of it. The Internet doesn't help this, but you really have to get out there and market yourself. Volunteer at a animal/people shelter. Donate time at a foodbank. Drive seniors to appointments. You would be surprised the connexions you'll make, and its just good karma.
Anyway, my 2CP on the matter. YMMV, and yadda yadda.
Volunteer work - the only problem is that it doesn't pay the mortgage and auto loan. I apologize if it sounds cynical, but it's the reality that some folks are in.Seconded.
Believe me, I know. It's more to get out of the house, feel better, and (most importantly) make contacts. If you're looking for a teaching job, volunteering as a tutor gets you into the education network, Habitat hooks you up with pro builders if that's your thing, etc.
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Pride is your enemy: Take a job, even if it isn't 'in your field'. Hell I went from salesman to barrista. And you know what? I'm happier now than I was at my sales job.
This I know. However, pride isn't my problem. Literally NO ONE will hire me. I got rejected by MCDONALD'S. And they were one of the places that would actually give me an application. Most places I've looked, the conversation goes like this:
Me: "Are you hiring at all?"
Store: "No."
Me: "Well, could you give me an application so I could fill it out and you could put it on file."
Store: "Sorry, we can't do that."
Some other cute answers that I get are "We categorically don't hire students," "We don't hire people that haven't worked at one of our stores before," and "We don't hire people that look like they don't shop here."
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Believe me, I know. It's more to get out of the house, feel better, and (most importantly) make contacts. If you're looking for a teaching job, volunteering as a tutor gets you into the education network, Habitat hooks you up with pro builders if that's your thing, etc.Volunteer work - the only problem is that it doesn't pay the mortgage and auto loan. I apologize if it sounds cynical, but it's the reality that some folks are in.Seconded.
I'm already getting out of the house--I'm a full-time student. I've worked volunteer jobs before, but if anything they're a drain on time and energy. Last time I was working a volunteer job (library assistant), I had a paying job as well (TV station gofer) so I could pay the bills.
Right now, my concern is that if I wasn't borrowing money from my family (which is like borrowing money from the Mafia, but still better than taking out a loan), I wouldn't be able to afford FOOD, much less gasoline, bills, or god forbid, school. Basically what it boils down to is that I don't need fulfillment or peace of mind--I need MONEY.
All I can say in that case Shiny is you need greener horizons. If MickyD's ain't hiring I don't know what to say. I could get you a job in minutes around here. If in a few years I move out near you, I can finagle a job from my wife for you, but that's 1-2 years down the road and there is no guarantee that we will be moving to Upstate NY. Heck, it could be Knoxville TN for all I know.
Have you thought about moving? I don't know what your sitch vis-a-vis housing and all that, but young guy like you with that bleak a hiring prospect, I'd bug out. EoS. I know you just got engaged, what is the fiancee doing? Could she move? Are you still in school?
Believe me, I know. It's more to get out of the house, feel better, and (most importantly) make contacts. If you're looking for a teaching job, volunteering as a tutor gets you into the education network, Habitat hooks you up with pro builders if that's your thing, etc.Volunteer work - the only problem is that it doesn't pay the mortgage and auto loan. I apologize if it sounds cynical, but it's the reality that some folks are in.Seconded.I'm already getting out of the house--I'm a full-time student. I've worked volunteer jobs before, but if anything they're a drain on time and energy. Last time I was working a volunteer job (library assistant), I had a paying job as well (TV station gofer) so I could pay the bills.
Right now, my concern is that if I wasn't borrowing money from my family (which is like borrowing money from the Mafia, but still better than taking out a loan), I wouldn't be able to afford FOOD, much less gasoline, bills, or god forbid, school. Basically what it boils down to is that I don't need fulfillment or peace of mind--I need MONEY.
I hear you, but the volunteer thing was a direct response to CH's question. It's not a solution for unemployment.
We need that, too. I wish the puffin could find a job, but the market is awful. I've turned away three job-seekers so far today because we don't hire. We don't have the money for staff, so I work the 6-days while my partner works another job and covers our Saturdays. Even something part-time for the puffin would help. $600/month would be a huge deal for us. As it is, I don't know what we're going to do. I feel your pain.
Ah, so you are looking at one more year in school. Any pizza places around campus? I always found that they were good places to make extra bucks, plus they were usually staffed with local students, so they knew the drill. And they had a pretty rapid turnover. And they usually fed you.
Also, any workstudy programs at school? It paid sh!t, but the plus side was it wasn't demanding work and you could study while you worked (usually babysitting a piece of the school library or something.)
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A lot of the suggestions (volunteering, etc) are specifically applicable to our situation because we're in an odd "holding pattern". We're serious about moving again, and trying to line things up to do it right. It wouldn't make sense for my partner to spend a whole lot of energy looking for employment in L.A. under those circumstances, but he gets stir-crazy in the apartment. When we get back east, we're thinking about a big push for him to get on the substitute teacher lists while he looks for something permanent.
Shiny, are you graduating in May 2013, then? Employment in Syracuse is awful. (And it's pretty much the same all over Upstate NY, with the possible marginal exception of Rochester, but even that's rough - although I imagine you know that all too well.) When you get the opportunity, leave while you're young. You don't have to go far, but almost anything is an improvement. The job I was working in Rochester would have paid close to double in almost any other part of the country, but they paid terribly because they knew people in Rochester had no alternatives. The only places that hire in that part of the country are collection agencies which are relocating in droves to Buffalo and other Upstate NY cities to take advantage of cheap labor.
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Have you thought about moving? I don't know what your sitch vis-a-vis housing and all that, but young guy like you with that bleak a hiring prospect, I'd bug out. EoS. I know you just got engaged, what is the fiancee doing? Could she move? Are you still in school?
We're both in school, both with one year left--she's finishing year one of a two-year degree, and I'm finishing year three of a four-year degree. I'm living in student housing, so all my rent has been paid up until May, and after that, I'm probably going to have to borrow more money from my family to pay for the rest of the year. The money is there, but it's a loan, not a gift, and I really want to have some kind of financial independence before I'm out of my twenties.
My plan is to finish my degree as quickly and painlessly as possible, then move down to the city where my fiancée is, and look for a job there. That's probably going to happen somewhere around April or May next year. Until then...
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Ah, so you are looking at one more year in school. Any pizza places around campus? I always found that they were good places to make extra bucks, plus they were usually staffed with local students, so they knew the drill. And they had a pretty rapid turnover. And they usually fed you.
Tried those-- as of now, none are hiring, and one is actively laying people off and preparing to close.
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Also, any workstudy programs at school? It paid sh!t, but the plus side was it wasn't demanding work and you could study while you worked (usually babysitting a piece of the school library or something.)
That would be great for me, but unfortunately, the policy at my university is that you are only eligible for work study if you are already receiving need-based financial aid from the school.
Again, even though I'm broke, my family is rich, and even though I'm almost twenty-six, they still base their assessment of need on my parents' income. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Hey, I LOVE the Oregon Trail!So I'm taking a basic computer course this semester because I wanted to learn the finer points of Excel and Power Point and so help me that conversation sounds almost exactly like some of my classmates. The first week of class was....there aren't words. I'm not sure if they're that stupid or they've just been living under a rock, with one free pass for the two people in their seventies who have an at least understandable excuse. The guy who was retaking the class because he'd failed it once...HOW?!I fondly remember my first computer class, around 93 I guess, one of my classmates managed to "format C" roughly 5 minutes before we where allowed to even start the computer :-) teacher said it was a new recordlol. Yeah, my first computer class was...uh, junior high? I remember it not so fondly. Oregon fricking trail. Basically you had an hour to complete a mindlessly simple assignment. So I was usually done in five minutes. And if you were done early you got to play Oregon Trail as a reward....it's not that rewarding when you're done early every day. I'm still trying to figure out how some people actually had a hard time finishing in the hour alloted...
Too bad I forgot most of the crap I learned back then and have to retake it all now anyways. :)
I read someone else mention it on Paizo in another thread recently: Oregon Trail is essentially our version of the Kobayashi Maru. Sooner or later, no matter what path or how long it takes, the outcome will be that you lose.
There's no James T. Kirk, here.
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Nerf toss! Now, there's a program I can relate to!.
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10 INPUT "What is your name: ", U$
20 PRINT "Hello "; U$
30 INPUT "How many porn stars do you want: ", N
40 S$ = ""
50 FOR I = 1 TO N
60 S$ = S$ + "*"
70 NEXT I
80 PRINT S$
90 INPUT "Do you want more porn stars? ", A$
100 IF LEN(A$) = 0 THEN GOTO 90
110 A$ = LEFT$(A$, 1)
120 IF A$ = "Y" OR A$ = "y" THEN GOTO 30
130 PRINT "Goodbye "; U$
140 END
I've been bested by my bizarro self.
Believe me, I know. It's more to get out of the house, feel better, and (most importantly) make contacts. If you're looking for a teaching job, volunteering as a tutor gets you into the education network, Habitat hooks you up with pro builders if that's your thing, etc.Volunteer work - the only problem is that it doesn't pay the mortgage and auto loan. I apologize if it sounds cynical, but it's the reality that some folks are in.Seconded.I'm already getting out of the house--I'm a full-time student. I've worked volunteer jobs before, but if anything they're a drain on time and energy. Last time I was working a volunteer job (library assistant), I had a paying job as well (TV station gofer) so I could pay the bills.
Right now, my concern is that if I wasn't borrowing money from my family (which is like borrowing money from the Mafia, but still better than taking out a loan), I wouldn't be able to afford FOOD, much less gasoline, bills, or god forbid, school. Basically what it boils down to is that I don't need fulfillment or peace of mind--I need MONEY.
Have you looked into Snagajob?
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Also, any workstudy programs at school? It paid sh!t, but the plus side was it wasn't demanding work and you could study while you worked (usually babysitting a piece of the school library or something.)That would be great for me, but unfortunately, the policy at my university is that you are only eligible for work study if you are already receiving need-based financial aid from the school.
Again, even though I'm broke, my family is rich, and even though I'm almost twenty-six, they still base their assessment of need on my parents' income. Absolutely ridiculous.
When my partner went back to school, they had to base his aid on his income from the previous year, when he was working as a retail manager. He couldn't get squat. It begs the question: What good is the money he made last year for paying his tuition this year?
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Again, even though I'm broke, my family is rich, and even though I'm almost twenty-six, they still base their assessment of need on my parents' income. Absolutely ridiculous.
This drove me nuts too. Mom had to start working so we could keep the house...and then she went from part time RN at the local nursing home to getting promoted by the owner to Director of Nursing! My parents believe in "18 and you're out. No assistance.", but I also was denied need based scholarship based on their income.
It is absolutely ridiculous.
That is a ridiculous rule. There should at least be a clause that if your parents sign something indicating that you are to be considered emancipated from them then you could get something.
I dealt with a similar thing back in the day with Pell Grants. My family wasn't rich, but we lived in a nice town and owned a house. that house counted as an asset when tabulating whether or not I qualified. I didn't. So I did the loan thing (and had ten long years of paying it off-or at least six until I joined the military and arranged for them to pay it off for me as part of my package deal)
I can't believe that the pizza places are doing so bad they are closing. That really bodes well for the health of the economy when college kids aren't buying pizza =/ UMass/Amherst had about a dozen operating at full tilt back in the Eighties.
I read someone else mention it on Paizo in another thread recently: Oregon Trail is essentially our version of the Kobayashi Maru. Sooner or later, no matter what path or how long it takes, the outcome will be that you lose.
There's no James T. Kirk, here.
Lol. It's true. Even if you make it to Oregon, you die as soon as you get there. :)
At one point I was trying to see if I could unlock every single losing scenario. Joining the Donner party made me laugh at least. :)
Re the college thing, that is so ridiculous. There are too many students out there who don't get money from their parents. Especially if you're filing your own taxes and everything, those should be used for determining need, not your parents' money. Do you have to include their income when you fill out the FAFSA? I remember having to when I was eighteen, but I still lived at home and hadn't ever filed my own taxes, so that made sense.
Also, good luck to those who are jobhunting. It sucks that it's so difficult. :(
lyn, there are some ridiculous assumptions about parental support in FAFSA. It's great in preventing folks from cheating the system, but it guts the ability of many, many young people in getting financial aid. They assume your parents have money and will pay until what - 25? - no matter what your real situation is. So if they have money but won't pay, or simply won't cooperate and provide their income info for FAFSA, you're SOL.
I gave one of the jobseekers today a bunch of the mini candy bars on the counter for the kids, because she was hungry. I thought things were improving?
lyn, there are some ridiculous assumptions about parental support in FAFSA. It's great in preventing folks from cheating the system, but it guts the ability of many, many young people in getting financial aid. They assume your parents have money and will pay until what - 25? - no matter what your real situation is. So if they have money but won't pay, or simply won't cooperate and provide their income info for FAFSA, you're SOL.
That is so screwed up. I got married when I was 20 so after that it was always based on our income not my parents' income, so I didn't realize how screwed up the whole process really was.
Solnes has already had three hits on her applications in Houston!
Yay! I hope that something works out then. :)
lyn, there are some ridiculous assumptions about parental support in FAFSA. It's great in preventing folks from cheating the system, but it guts the ability of many, many young people in getting financial aid. They assume your parents have money and will pay until what - 25? - no matter what your real situation is. So if they have money but won't pay, or simply won't cooperate and provide their income info for FAFSA, you're SOL.
Yes. As somebody wrestling with the godawful stupidity built into financial aid programs, the whole system is just unnecessarily complex and obfuscated. Take my college for example, who said they sent me my award letter (they hadn't), said that I had accepted and approved not one, but two loans (I didn't). Mind you, if I *hadn't* checked things, I would now be responsible for almost $6k in loans that I don't *entirely* need, and had to make several phone calls and talk to the financial aid office in person to get things cleared up.
They sent me the updated award letter again (which I can't read on a Mac, as it thinks it's corrupted), and the information is still wrong. (And of course, since "due to budgetary restrictions", you can only call between noon and 5pm. Or 8am to noon on Friday. And they don't respond to email requests. And the "detailed information on our website" isn't.)>.<