hi everyone,
do you celebrate St.Martins Eve in America?
Are there Martins-Parades? Martins-Lanterns? Martins-Fire?
if you do:
Happy Martins Eve to all the FaWtlies with small children!
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hi everyone,
do you celebrate St.Martins Eve in America?
Are there Martins-Parades? Martins-Lanterns? Martins-Fire?
if you do:
Happy Martins Eve to all the FaWtlies with small children!
I am unaware of this holiday. Is it primarily a family holiday? A commercial one? One based around a specific event or activity?
Ahembox.ahem.off to bed now.
tomorrow i can tell you some local myths and faery tales about the ghosts of the spessart, the werewolfs of the vogelsberg and the merepeople in the river Kinzig
yes, yes, home now
So what's everyone....roleplaying these days? I'm playing a Paladin/Oracle in a Kingmaker game (got to be the king, which is pretty cool), Running a Carrion Crown game, and prepping a pretty awesome (I think) Basic Role Playing game story arch.
sadly I am mostly Dming at the moment, I have two Serpent Skull games, one is 3.5 (I have a DMPC Bard who jumps in if players are missing, but it's not the same as actually playing) we play every friday.
the second is PFRPG with six players one saturday every other monthmy last PC's where a dwarf ranger in "kobold king" to "hungry are the dead" and a Barbarian/Dragon Shaman in "Red Hand of Doom" - best campaign ever!
I am unaware of this holiday. Is it primarily a family holiday? A commercial one? One based around a specific event or activity?hi everyone,
do you celebrate St.Martins Eve in America?
Are there Martins-Parades? Martins-Lanterns? Martins-Fire?
if you do:
Happy Martins Eve to all the FaWtlies with small children!
thankfully it is mostly un-commercial,
it's is primaily for pre-school childernSt Martin is originally a catholic figure but the Martins-walk is celbrated by Lutherans, Catholics, Moslems and Atheists alike.
Legend of St.MArtin:
He was a roman military tribune who became a bishop. his most famous deed was to cut his cloak in half and share it with a homeless man.
Children in kindergarten (do you really use our word?) handicraft paper lanterns (or the parents buy them) and practise the songs like "Lantern, Lantern, Sun Moon and Stars" and "I walk with my Lantern"
On Martins Eve the parents and children do the martins parade (coll but dangerous with candles in the lantern, save with electric lights) usually the villages marching band will accompany them, sometimes even a man dressed as a roman legionnaire on a withe horse will ride in front.
the parade ends at the place of the Martins-Fire, a huge bonfire by the local volunteer firefighters and more singing
i was searching for good youtube vidioes but thats the best I could find:
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Children in kindergarten (do you really use our word?)
Yep all of the German immigrants brought it with them. Says the American of partially German descent.
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Mostly Dutch here. :)
We don't celebrate St. Martin's Eve here in the U.S., obviously. It sounds like a neat holiday, though!
I'm going to have to submit my vacation time for the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. I'd like to do a turkey dinner. Guess I should see if any friends are interested in coming, first, though! :D
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OK as promised
local faery tales and legends:
The Vogelsberg Mountains have a surprising amount of Werewolf Storys (the Grimms Little Red Riding Hood is from north of them, I am just south)
Once upon a time at Klein-Eichen a farmer was attacked by a huge wolf, the man fought him with his scythe but was overpowered. As the wolf leaned over him ready to bite his throat, the man's loyal hound arrived an fought the wolf. When the dog caught the wolfs rear leg and ripped it appart, suddenly the wolf vanished from sight.
The next day the farmer heard, that at the time of the fight, a man in the neighboring village had died in his bed, his leg was shredded and mangled, no one could figure out why.
Between Herbstein and Hopfmannsfeld a farmer was working on a field in the woods. His wife brought him supper but her husband was nowhere to be seen. Suddenly a huge wolf came from the woods and attcked her, he dragged her over the field and did terrible things to her than he ran of.
The women did run home in terror and barricaded herself inside. Some hours later her husband came home, when she opened the door he opend his arms to hug here and smiled. At that moment sh noticed a little strand of red wool between his teeth. Wool from the skirt she had worn. She killed him with a pitchfork bathed in holy water.
And a really lame one
At Siechenhausen there once was a Werewolf who jumped onto people and stole bread from their baskets. * shrugs*
That story has similarities with another legend the Stüpp, Bakhuv or Aufhocker. That is a undead creature who jumps onto wanderers backs in dark woods until they die of fear. The Bakhuv or Bachkalb is a mix between werewolf and Aufhocker, it looks like a small dog who plays with the victim then it suddenly grows and jumps onto the victims back crushing it under it's increasing weight.
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two cool ghrapics of Fabelwesen, legendary creatures:
and the true story of the Wolf of Ansbach
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Morning, all. What did I miss?
Well, Rich decided that his career as a prosecutor would have to wait while he donated several years to his dream of driving herds of cattle in South America. Meanwhile, the lunch honoring Steve turned into a disaster when the eatery came under assault from a pack of feral cats. And, across town, Pat slowly came to the realization that the rash on his legs was actually....No, wait! That's my soap opera.
I'm Trinam! ^_^
CAW!
I'm black. The white parts of my family are generations back on my mothers side, and were Scottish, not Irish, as my mother and I believed for years. The family if Panamanian on both sides, but my father is mostly of Jamaican descent while my mother is a mix of Barbados (bajan), and Guyana.
*hits head on desk*
The one class I have to take no matter what is going to require that we pay for after school care for the kidlet one afternoon per week, which we had been able to avoid thus far. And it's making it virtually impossible to fit anything else I need into my schedule.
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Afternoon all! I think I got my computer rebooted correctly! Yay!
I'm black. The white parts of my family are generations back on my mothers side, and were Scottish, not Irish, as my mother and I believed for years. The family if Panamanian on both sides, but my father is mostly of Jamaican descent while my mother is a mix of Barbados (bajan), and Guyana.
Interesting historical footnote. Panama was the site of Scotland's only foray into the colonization game. A colony known as 'New Caledonia' was founded, but failed miserably. The resulting economic trauma is blamed for the later Act of Union that merged Scotland into the larger United Kingdom system.
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I am unaware of this holiday. Is it primarily a family holiday? A commercial one? One based around a specific event or activity?hi everyone,
do you celebrate St.Martins Eve in America?
Are there Martins-Parades? Martins-Lanterns? Martins-Fire?
if you do:
Happy Martins Eve to all the FaWtlies with small children!thankfully it is mostly un-commercial,
it's is primaily for pre-school childernSt Martin is originally a catholic figure but the Martins-walk is celbrated by Lutherans, Catholics, Moslems and Atheists alike.
Legend of St.MArtin:
He was a roman military tribune who became a bishop. his most famous deed was to cut his cloak in half and share it with a homeless man.Children in kindergarten (do you really use our word?) handicraft paper lanterns (or the parents buy them) and practise the songs like "Lantern, Lantern, Sun Moon and Stars" and "I walk with my Lantern"
On Martins Eve the parents and children do the martins parade (coll but dangerous with candles in the lantern, save with electric lights) usually the villages marching band will accompany them, sometimes even a man dressed as a roman legionnaire on a withe horse will ride in front.
the parade ends at the place of the Martins-Fire, a huge bonfire by the local volunteer firefighters and more singingi was searching for good youtube vidioes but thats the best I could find:
click
Yes we do use Kindergarten for well Kindergarten. Of course many pronounce it kindergarden and I have seen more than one advertisement spell it thus.
Martin of Tours and Martinmas is usually not celebrated in the US. It is recognized in Catholic churches and Catholic schools.
St. Martin, and the legends surrounding him are some of my favorites, right along side St. Francis. St. Martin is the reason there are Army Chaplains. A Chaplain being one who guards the cape. The story you mentioned of him cutting his cape in half, the other half of the cape became an artifact of St. Martins and was in fact guarded by the first Chaplains. Or at least that was the story I always heard.
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OK as promised
local faery tales and legends:The Vogelsberg Mountains have a surprising amount of Werewolf Storys (the Grimms Little Red Riding Hood is from north of them, I am just south)
Once upon a time at Klein-Eichen a farmer was attacked by a huge wolf, the man fought him with his scythe but was overpowered. As the wolf leaned over him ready to bite his throat, the man's loyal hound arrived an fought the wolf. When the dog caught the wolfs rear leg and ripped it appart, suddenly the wolf vanished from sight.
The next day the farmer heard, that at the time of the fight, a man in the neighboring village had died in his bed, his leg was shredded and mangled, no one could figure out why.Between Herbstein and Hopfmannsfeld a farmer was working on a field in the woods. His wife brought him supper but her husband was nowhere to be seen. Suddenly a huge wolf came from the woods and attcked her, he dragged her over the field and did terrible things to her than he ran of.
The women did run home in terror and barricaded herself inside. Some hours later her husband came home, when she opened the door he opend his arms to hug here and smiled. At that moment sh noticed a little strand of red wool between his teeth. Wool from the skirt she had worn. She killed him with a pitchfork bathed in holy water.And a really lame one
At Siechenhausen there once was a Werewolf who jumped onto people and stole bread from their baskets. * shrugs*
That story has similarities with another legend the Stüpp, Bakhuv or Aufhocker. That is a undead creature who jumps onto wanderers backs in dark woods until they die of fear. The Bakhuv or Bachkalb is a mix between werewolf and Aufhocker, it looks like a small dog who plays with the victim then it suddenly grows and jumps onto the victims back crushing it under it's increasing weight.
Sounds a bit like the story of the man who fought the were-wolf and cut off its paw. Bringing the paw home he finds his wife missing her hand and her wedding ring on the bloody paw.
From what I could find the Aufhocker is a form of Kobold. Is that right?
Do you find it funny how off some of the monsters in DnD are compared to Mythology?
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two cool ghrapics of Fabelwesen, legendary creatures:
I think I recognize some of the critters but my German lacking.
and the true story of the Wolf of Ansbach
Does Bürgermeister translate to Master of the city?
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*blink*
Afternoon all! I think I got my computer rebooted correctly! Yay!
I'm black. The white parts of my family are generations back on my mothers side, and were Scottish, not Irish, as my mother and I believed for years. The family if Panamanian on both sides, but my father is mostly of Jamaican descent while my mother is a mix of Barbados (bajan), and Guyana.Interesting historical footnote. Panama was the site of Scotland's only foray into the colonization game. A colony known as 'New Caledonia' was founded, but failed miserably. The resulting economic trauma is blamed for the later Act of Union that merged Scotland into the larger United Kingdom system.
interesting... Very interesting.
In other news I just lost my temper at work. I stepped away abruptly to keep from blowing up at my supervisor, but it was a near thing. Still, I would rather be thought of as rude than violent.
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*blink*
Afternoon all! I think I got my computer rebooted correctly! Yay!
I'm black. The white parts of my family are generations back on my mothers side, and were Scottish, not Irish, as my mother and I believed for years. The family if Panamanian on both sides, but my father is mostly of Jamaican descent while my mother is a mix of Barbados (bajan), and Guyana.Interesting historical footnote. Panama was the site of Scotland's only foray into the colonization game. A colony known as 'New Caledonia' was founded, but failed miserably. The resulting economic trauma is blamed for the later Act of Union that merged Scotland into the larger United Kingdom system.
interesting... Very interesting.
In other news I just lost my temper at work. I stepped away abruptly to keep from blowing up at my supervisor, but it was a near thing. Still, I would rather be thought of as rude than violent.
That sucks. And it surprises me. I know that you are normally able to take quite a bit. Hopefully things work out better soon.
From what I could find the Aufhocker is a form of Kobold. Is that right?
Do you find it funny how off some of the monsters in DnD are compared to Mythology?
most legends depict the Aufhocker as a Wiedergänger literally "backcomer" a german word for undead
The Kobold by the way is a german house spirit that protects the familie, "hold" means fair, good, beautiful
two cool ghrapics of Fabelwesen, legendary creatures:
I think I recognize some of the critters but my German lacking.
Does Bürgermeister translate to Master of the city?
and the true story of the Wolf of Ansbach
Bürgermeister is Mayor literal translation Master Citizen
First up, mom called me at work, it's Grenada, not Guyana.
Secondly, this is a becoming a repeated /long term problem with my supervisor and I regarding coverage -I am not sure how to go about this because it's involving people above us now making decisions that she is not privy to and i cannot exactly ignore. This may be less me being mad at her and more me being angry at a growing bureaucracy. Still, her... Ah... Mannerisms.... could use some work.
That sucks. And it surprises me. I know that you are normally able to take quite a bit. Hopefully things work out better soon.*blink*
Afternoon all! I think I got my computer rebooted correctly! Yay!
I'm black. The white parts of my family are generations back on my mothers side, and were Scottish, not Irish, as my mother and I believed for years. The family if Panamanian on both sides, but my father is mostly of Jamaican descent while my mother is a mix of Barbados (bajan), and Guyana.Interesting historical footnote. Panama was the site of Scotland's only foray into the colonization game. A colony known as 'New Caledonia' was founded, but failed miserably. The resulting economic trauma is blamed for the later Act of Union that merged Scotland into the larger United Kingdom system.
interesting... Very interesting.
In other news I just lost my temper at work. I stepped away abruptly to keep from blowing up at my supervisor, but it was a near thing. Still, I would rather be thought of as rude than violent.
off to bed now
good night Fawlties
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Remembrance day today... (For all who have served their countries and not returned).
The "Ode of Remembrance"
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.
Lest we forget
We will remember them.
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That is a PC class I have always wanted to see done right. NOBLE, maybe it should be a bunch of Archtypes to be added onto existing classes.Check out The Black Company campaign setting for 3.5 D and D. It has the best noble I've ever seen.
In fact, after a cursory review, it has some of the best 3.x material I've seen, PERIOD. You don't even have to like the setting, the crunch is just awesome.
Oh, and apparently I'm nekkid.
I am sorry I did not say this before but good luck with beating cancer for good this time.
Now as to the Black Company that interests me a great deal I enjoyed those books not great but interesting characters. It looks like I have yet another book on my purchase list, perhaps an ebay watch to see if I can get it. I hate Amazon and refuse to buy from them (bad customer service experience with them. I am stubborn that way.) Looks very interesting though I can't wait to see how they stat out the likes of Croaker, One-eye Goblin and the rest.
More major suck-age this afternoon.
I just receive the news that a good friend, Karen O'Neil lost her battle to cancer this morning. She was a good friend and a licensed cosmetologist who cut my hair for the last 26 years. My mother will not take the news well.
She will be missed.
I need some positive waves.
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I am still waiting for an urban arcane ranger type. Magus is sooo close, but not plus I hate the name. Of course that is a minor quibble. I think the archtypes help a bit though, both for the magus and the bard.
I sooo didn’t like the name Magus (Maygish) when it was first announced. I think there were (and are) several other better names that didn’t break the rules of ‘a real word, no compound words’. It has sort of grown on me since then though.
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*hugs* to Nathan and BluePigeon. Hang in there, guys. We're pulling for you, you know that.
The rest of you, behave.
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I sooo didn’t like the name Magus (Maygish) when it was first announced. I think there were (and are) several other better names that didn’t break the rules of ‘a real word, no compound words’. It has sort of grown on me since then though.
I am still waiting for an urban arcane ranger type. Magus is sooo close, but not plus I hate the name. Of course that is a minor quibble. I think the archtypes help a bit though, both for the magus and the bard.
In the end I can see why it was chosen, nothing already majorly being used, and it was close enough to work, while at the same time not even coming near any other IP.
I can however call the thing what ever I shall want in my games. :P
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IT
was
in
and
about
the Martinmas time,
When the green leaves were a falling,
That Sir John Græme, in the West Country,
Fell in love with Barbara Allan.
He sent his man down through the town,
To the place where she was dwelling:
“O haste and come to my master dear,
Gin ye be Barbara Allan.”
O hooly, hooly rose she up,
To the place where he was lying,
And when she drew the curtain by,
“Young man, I think you’re dying.”
“O it’s I’m sick, and very, very sick,
And ’tis a’ for Barbara Allan:”
“O the better for me ye’s never be,
Tho your heart’s blood were a spilling.
“O dinna ye mind, young man,” said she,
“When ye was in the tavern a drinking,
That ye made the healths gae round and round,
And slighted Barbara Allan?”
He turned his face unto the wall,
And death was with him dealing:
“Adieu, adieu, my dear friends all,
And be kind to Barbara Allan.”
And slowly, slowly raise she up,
And slowly, slowly left him,
And sighing said, she coud not stay,
Since death of life had reft him.
She had not gane a mile but twa,
When she heard the dead-bell ringing,
And every jow that the dead-bell gied,
It cry’d, Woe to Barbara Allan!
“O mother, mother, make my bed!
O make it saft and narrow!
Since my love died for me to-day,
I’ll die for him to-morrow.”
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Afternoon all! I think I got my computer rebooted correctly! Yay!
I'm black. The white parts of my family are generations back on my mothers side, and were Scottish, not Irish, as my mother and I believed for years. The family if Panamanian on both sides, but my father is mostly of Jamaican descent while my mother is a mix of Barbados (bajan), and Guyana.Interesting historical footnote. Panama was the site of Scotland's only foray into the colonization game. A colony known as 'New Caledonia' was founded, but failed miserably. The resulting economic trauma is blamed for the later Act of Union that merged Scotland into the larger United Kingdom system.
I'll give you 24 hours to post that in the new history factoid thread before I steal it.
I remember reading that Americans with ancestral ties to Germany are the largest group in the country.Children in kindergarten (do you really use our word?)Yep all of the German immigrants brought it with them. Says the American of partially German descent.
I have read that, too, I think in Vonnegut somewhere. They were forced to assimilate during WWI when Beethoven was banned throughout the land and sauerkraut became "liberty cabbage."
We still have kindergartens, but we lost most of our biergartens. I don't think we got the best deal.
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I remember reading that Americans with ancestral ties to Germany are the largest group in the country.Children in kindergarten (do you really use our word?)Yep all of the German immigrants brought it with them. Says the American of partially German descent.I have read that, too, I think in Vonnegut somewhere. They were forced to assimilate during WWI when Beethoven was banned throughout the land and sauerkraut became "liberty cabbage."
We still have kindergartens, but we lost most of our biergartens. I don't think we got the best deal.
The Beethoven bit sounds apocryphal (I don't believe the US has ever "banned" a classical composer - although he may have fallen out of fashion due to popular sentiment), but the rest is true. My great grandfather was in the US Navy in WW1 and had to change his name from Ludwig to Louis. Having the same first name as the Kaiser didn't make him popular.
"Throughout the land" might be a bit of hyperbole, but I'm pretty sure he was taken off the playlist at Carnegie Hall.
EDIT: Link Another site names Bach as part of the verboten list as well.
Here in NH, the pronunciation of the city Berlin was changed to BURR-lin and was never changed back.