
Drejk |
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The kettle stopped working today again, and didn't seem to respond to percussive maintenance anymore. I got annoyed because Sunday, and the current regime forced a law that more and more restricts shops being open on Sunday - but I checked anyway, and 'lo today was a shopping Sunday.
I have to say that difference between 1700-800 W and 2200 W kettle is staggering.

Tequila Sunrise |
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Tequila Sunrise wrote:...spoilered stuff...So, none of your stuff was political, just spoilered for length, but I think one of the really fundamental things lacking in the overall discussion of impression versus reality versus neurons versus learning is the fundamental importance of the single idea, "I could be wrong..."
And THAT is why the scientific method and scientific training is so vitally important worldwide, and, unfortunately (too short to spoiler), why so many governments and organizations fight so vehemently against scientific training.
Yeah, that and "I don't know." Sadly they can both be weaknesses if we're not savvy about applying them, but yeah "I could be wrong" and "I don't know" are incredibly important ideas, and we need more STEM education.
Every point you make is a valid one. Yet I spent every formative year of my life, from being raised by a physics professor who ruthlessly used the Socratic method on me, through degrees in math and physics at Berkeley where a rabbi turned my entire understanding of the universe on its head (look up Gödel's incompleteness theorems and imagine being an idealistic young mathematician/physicist and getting hit by those and Heisenberg at the same time), to grad school, to being a teacher with the philosophy, "When you start to believe that you have nothing left to learn from your students, it's time for you to retire..."
...and that vastness of experience is solely sufficient to allow me to step back when someone questions a belief of mine and ask, "Is it possible that I'm wrong here?"
Decades of mental training, and my limit is to actually question myself. (OK, yeah. I've been known to change my opinion. Look at Gavin Newsom. But I'll be the first to admit that I am VERY slow and require a LARGE amount of evidence to change my mind.)
That's pretty darned impressive ingraining.
Sure sounds like it!

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NobodysHome wrote:Yeah, that and "I don't know." Sadly they can both be weaknesses if we're not savvy about applying them, but yeah "I could be wrong" and "I don't know" are incredibly important ideas, and we need more STEM education.Tequila Sunrise wrote:...spoilered stuff...So, none of your stuff was political, just spoilered for length, but I think one of the really fundamental things lacking in the overall discussion of impression versus reality versus neurons versus learning is the fundamental importance of the single idea, "I could be wrong..."
And THAT is why the scientific method and scientific training is so vitally important worldwide, and, unfortunately (too short to spoiler), why so many governments and organizations fight so vehemently against scientific training.
And a society that doesn't treat "I don't know" and "I could be wrong" as admissions of defeat and/or surrender juxtaposed with a culture that treats being confident in one's wrongness as being more laudable than being correct but willing to consider other views.

NobodysHome |
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NobodysHome wrote:Tequila Sunrise wrote:...spoilered stuff...So, none of your stuff was political, just spoilered for length, but I think one of the really fundamental things lacking in the overall discussion of impression versus reality versus neurons versus learning is the fundamental importance of the single idea, "I could be wrong..."
And THAT is why the scientific method and scientific training is so vitally important worldwide, and, unfortunately (too short to spoiler), why so many governments and organizations fight so vehemently against scientific training.
Yeah, that and "I don't know." Sadly they can both be weaknesses if we're not savvy about applying them, but yeah "I could be wrong" and "I don't know" are incredibly important ideas, and we need more STEM education.
NobodysHome wrote:Sure sounds like it!Every point you make is a valid one. Yet I spent every formative year of my life, from being raised by a physics professor who ruthlessly used the Socratic method on me, through degrees in math and physics at Berkeley where a rabbi turned my entire understanding of the universe on its head (look up Gödel's incompleteness theorems and imagine being an idealistic young mathematician/physicist and getting hit by those and Heisenberg at the same time), to grad school, to being a teacher with the philosophy, "When you start to believe that you have nothing left to learn from your students, it's time for you to retire..."
...and that vastness of experience is solely sufficient to allow me to step back when someone questions a belief of mine and ask, "Is it possible that I'm wrong here?"
Decades of mental training, and my limit is to actually question myself. (OK, yeah. I've been known to change my opinion. Look at Gavin Newsom. But I'll be the first to admit that I am VERY slow and require a LARGE amount of evidence to change my mind.)
That's pretty darned impressive ingraining.
As a teaching/training instructor (teaching other teachers or instructors how to teach), the single-hardest point to get across was that, "I don't know. Let me see whether I can find an answer for you," is one of the best-possible responses you can give to a student, and giving them the wrong answer because you're guessing is one of the worst.

NobodysHome |
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Yet looking at the U.S. today, we don't need no steenking goddesses!
"Look! There's a global pandemic that's killing 7.0% of confirmed cases worldwide, 5.7% of confirmed cases in the U.S., and 4.0% of confirmed cases in California!"
"Oh, my! It's hot! Let's go to the beach!"
I mean, seriously. Suck it up. Stay at home for 6 weeks. Get a functioning government that covers personal and business losses for those 6 weeks. (Oops. That might be harder.). Done.
But no. Obeying a stay-at-home order is inconvenient, so we have to go ahead and let the plague persist.
Grr...

Drejk |

** spoiler omitted **
Grr...
You know, now you started me to wonder about male gods of diseases...
Apollo had this somewhere in his extended portfolio if memory serves me right (though I think that strictly disease spirits were female). Nergal or Namtaru (must check). Set? Not sure.
Fantasy? Ok, there is Morgion in Dragonlance... Though he might really be genderless singular they, if he was written this days instead of 35 or so years ago.
Someone else?

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I find it hilarious that all these people came to Madison to protest the safer at home order our governor extended (while also loosening) bragging about how they had so few cases compared to Madison, all the while exposing themselves to the virus so they can take it back to their hometowns and spread it around.
Also, they protested in front of the capitol (which is closed) and not the governor's mansion which is where the governor is currently working from.

NobodysHome |

NobodysHome wrote:** spoiler omitted **
Grr...You know, now you started me to wonder about male gods of diseases...
Apollo had this somewhere in his extended portfolio if memory serves me right (though I think that strictly disease spirits were female). Nergal or Namtaru (must check). Set? Not sure.
Fantasy? Ok, there is Morgion in Dragonlance... Though he might really be genderless singular they, if he was written this days instead of 35 or so years ago.
Someone else?
Oh, after I posted I started searching. The only one I found in old myth that wasn't combined healing AND disease was Namtar (Mesopotamian), but he's got all of death under his belt, so disease is kind of a "bonus add-on".

NobodysHome |

Yeah, I haven't been to a beach in years.
A pool yes, but beaches, that's a hard "f@!& no!" from me.
I have seen the farms that are upstream from all our lakes.
Yeah, after we saw the article GothBard and are were musing that as Northern Californians, a day at the beach sounds like our own little versions of Hell.
Hot sun. No shade. Cold, salty water with strong rip currents. Scads of people. Sand in everything.
I have no love of beaches to begin with so it's not a big loss for me.

Freehold DM |

captain yesterday wrote:Yeah, I haven't been to a beach in years.
A pool yes, but beaches, that's a hard "f@!& no!" from me.
I have seen the farms that are upstream from all our lakes.
Yeah, after we saw the article GothBard and are were musing that as Northern Californians, a day at the beach sounds like our own little versions of Hell.
Hot sun. No shade. Cold, salty water with strong rip currents. Scads of people. Sand in everything.
I have no love of beaches to begin with so it's not a big loss for me.
Sounds very desert-like.

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Hey, at least YOU probably don't have a house built in 1929 that had a "handyman" owner in the 1950s who felt that ALL repairs were better with scrap wood:
- Termite damage to a 18"x6" joist? Nail some scrap 2"x4"s to it to hold it up!
- Need a new studio? Build the frame and roof out of scrap wood. Rafters aren't long enough? Nail some shorter 2"x4"s together to make up the distance! Roof sags? Add more roofing until it doesn't!
- Need wiring? All this hot/neutral/ground stuff doesn't matter! Just twist some copper together, wrap it in electrical tape, and call it good!
- Need to extend the garage by 6'? Scrap wood and corrugated plastic! Yeah!Seriously. The entire studio had hot and neutral reversed on grounded outlets. The electric ovens and stovetop they put in had junctions that were just great balls of electric tape. Every time I open a wall I have to wince because I know 90% of my work is going to be fixing whatever the 1950s owner did in THAT wall.
Your right, I haven't found anything THAT bad (YET!) in my house. (Thank Goodness!) ;P
Although My father in law (whose house he had built when my wife was still an infant, and brags about how he had to pay extra for copper wiring, because the default was aluminum, and he knew better than that!)
when he remodeled his garage into a formal dining room a few years ago, we discovered a couple/few(?) of the interior vertical supports (2X4) did not meet in the middle, but were spanned by scrap pieces of 2X4 to connect them. O_o

Drejk |
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Nergal is a sun, war, and disease god.
Chinese had Wen Shen - depending on region and belief system, either a single god overseeing disease spirits, or group of disease gods, who might have been deified sons of a king who died of disease in their childhood.
Sami people of Lapland had a male disease god who rode a horse (supposedly a negative connotation in Sami culture, because norsemen who raided them rode horse).
Aztecs had Xipe Totec, a male god with a very wide competence range, including life, death, rebirth, agriculture, and diseases.
West Africa Yoruba people have a male god of smallpox.
Akkadians had a male disease god Erra (or Irra).
Of course, this gets complicated as historically, a lot of regions had a whole bunch of disease-bringing gods, spirits, and demons, not even going into the common belief that diseases are also caused by offended ancestral ghosts (common in Middle East, but also in Africa, China, various regions of Europe - the vampire myths were originally explanations of disease, long before associating vampires with sexuality).
Now I wonder how much of the very idea of religion we owe to diseases...

captain yesterday |

captain yesterday wrote:why no beaches?Yeah, I haven't been to a beach in years.
A pool yes, but beaches, that's a hard "f@!* no!" from me.
I have seen the farms that are upstream from all our lakes.
Shit in the water.
Devil's Lake is an exception, but that's because it is the water source and not reliant on being fed water from a river that travels through one hundred farm fields where it pools by the river bed in foot deep puddles (of pure shit).

Ragadolf |
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Linux is alive and running on a partition of my desktop again, and geez...
- Sorting and clearing my old backups? No problem! Linux can read disks from MacOS 7-10, plus Windows 95, XP, and beyond, so I've got one system that can read every backup disk I've ever created and help me sort the nonsense. Plus unpack tarballs and rars without having to explain in horrific detail to Windows what the heck I'm talking about.
- Everything just runs faster, from downloads to page loads on web browsers. It's like having a new computer without actually spending any money. Win!
- I can use this avatar again! Woot!
Heh, I'm smiling because right now you sound just like my friend (the one who died of cancer a year ago).
He was, for a few years of his career, a programmer for Red Hat Linux.His tirades were legendary,... ;P

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Freehold DM wrote:captain yesterday wrote:why no beaches?Yeah, I haven't been to a beach in years.
A pool yes, but beaches, that's a hard "f@!* no!" from me.
I have seen the farms that are upstream from all our lakes.
S&!# in the water.
Devil's Lake is an exception, but that's because it is the water source and not reliant on being fed water from a river that travels through one hundred farm fields where it pools by the river bed in foot deep puddles (of pure s*%&).
I had heard rumors of beaches and lakes befouled near where you are but I had hoped it wasn't true. It saddens me that the wyrm is so strong there.

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Now I wonder how much of the very idea of religion we owe to diseases...
Waits impatiently for Drejk's submission to the Pantheon Challenge

Drejk |
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Drejk wrote:Now I wonder how much of the very idea of religion we owe to diseases...Waits impatiently for Drejk's submission to the Pantheon Challenge
*reads*
Interesting... Interesting... Intere...
No rewards for the creation while signing off release allowing use of the created material?
*interest wanes*

captain yesterday |

captain yesterday wrote:I had heard rumors of beaches and lakes befouled near where you are but I had hoped it wasn't true. It saddens me that the wyrm is so strong there.Freehold DM wrote:captain yesterday wrote:why no beaches?Yeah, I haven't been to a beach in years.
A pool yes, but beaches, that's a hard "f@!* no!" from me.
I have seen the farms that are upstream from all our lakes.
S&!# in the water.
Devil's Lake is an exception, but that's because it is the water source and not reliant on being fed water from a river that travels through one hundred farm fields where it pools by the river bed in foot deep puddles (of pure s*%&).
Devil's Lake is only an hour away, it is pristine.

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*hugs*
I didn't resorted to nap but mine thankfully mostly passed after some time. I suspect it might have been exacerbated by having to cover my face when I was getting the new kettle. Or maybe the weather change causing it passed to the side.
Thank you for the hug. I needed that. Somehow the nap not working made me much sadder then it should have.

NobodysHome |

NobodysHome wrote:Impus Major: Oh, yeah, baby! Happiness is contagious, and I'm patient zero!
How can you NOT love the boy?
OK, THAT is awesome.
Can our kids hang out? My son is in some serious need of a happiness contagion right now! :P
He is actually now gainfully employed teaching autistic (and other spectrum disorder) kids how to recognize and respond to social clues and interact "normally" with other teens.
So yeah, he's currently employed doing pretty much exactly that.

Drejk |

The Neutron Star Slingshot - Because Science
Wait, isn't that the guy who used a white dwarf to get his axe-hammer forged? Now he wants to fire neutron stars from a slingshot?

Freehold DM |
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Ragadolf wrote:NobodysHome wrote:Impus Major: Oh, yeah, baby! Happiness is contagious, and I'm patient zero!
How can you NOT love the boy?
OK, THAT is awesome.
Can our kids hang out? My son is in some serious need of a happiness contagion right now! :P
He is actually now gainfully employed teaching autistic (and other spectrum disorder) kids how to recognize and respond to social clues and interact "normally" with other teens.
So yeah, he's currently employed doing pretty much exactly that.
I am very, very proud of your son.

Sharoth |

Sharoth wrote:The Neutron Star Slingshot - Because ScienceWait, isn't that the guy who used a white dwarf to get his axe-hammer forged? Now he wants to fire neutron stars from a slingshot?

NobodysHome |
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NobodysHome wrote:I am very, very proud of your son.Ragadolf wrote:NobodysHome wrote:Impus Major: Oh, yeah, baby! Happiness is contagious, and I'm patient zero!
How can you NOT love the boy?
OK, THAT is awesome.
Can our kids hang out? My son is in some serious need of a happiness contagion right now! :P
He is actually now gainfully employed teaching autistic (and other spectrum disorder) kids how to recognize and respond to social clues and interact "normally" with other teens.
So yeah, he's currently employed doing pretty much exactly that.
I'd be slightly more cynical, but it's pretty impressive.
Everybody loves him. He's the human equivalent of a corgi. Some adults recognized this in him and said, "OK. Just socialize with these autistic kids, and tell them what they do wrong, what they do right, and why, and help them figure out what you're trying to tell them."
And he's a natural and the autistic kids LOVE him, but heck if it's a "trained" skill. It's just him being himself. Which is pretty awesome, actually.

Vidmaster7 |

Vidmaster7 wrote:Why was the pirate voiced by Gilbert Gottfried?gran rey de los mono wrote:I saw a pirate with a one-winged parrot the other day. I asked him "How far can your parrot fly with only one wing?" He said "About a yarrrrd."And yet in my head he was still voiced by Gilbert Godfreid.
The parrot!
Oh is that how you spell his name? Good to know.

gran rey de los mono |
gran rey de los mono wrote:Vidmaster7 wrote:Why was the pirate voiced by Gilbert Gottfried?gran rey de los mono wrote:I saw a pirate with a one-winged parrot the other day. I asked him "How far can your parrot fly with only one wing?" He said "About a yarrrrd."And yet in my head he was still voiced by Gilbert Godfreid.The parrot!
Oh is that how you spell his name? Good to know.
The parrot didn't talk. The pirate and I did.

Vidmaster7 |

Vidmaster7 wrote:The parrot didn't talk. The pirate and I did.gran rey de los mono wrote:Vidmaster7 wrote:Why was the pirate voiced by Gilbert Gottfried?gran rey de los mono wrote:I saw a pirate with a one-winged parrot the other day. I asked him "How far can your parrot fly with only one wing?" He said "About a yarrrrd."And yet in my head he was still voiced by Gilbert Godfreid.The parrot!
Oh is that how you spell his name? Good to know.
So the parrot didn't tell to that the pirate flew a yard? well I guess that makes sense I mean what is the pirate doing flying anyways?

gran rey de los mono |
gran rey de los mono wrote:So the parrot didn't tell to that the pirate flew a yard? well I guess that makes sense I mean what is the pirate doing flying anyways?Vidmaster7 wrote:The parrot didn't talk. The pirate and I did.gran rey de los mono wrote:Vidmaster7 wrote:Why was the pirate voiced by Gilbert Gottfried?gran rey de los mono wrote:I saw a pirate with a one-winged parrot the other day. I asked him "How far can your parrot fly with only one wing?" He said "About a yarrrrd."And yet in my head he was still voiced by Gilbert Godfreid.The parrot!
Oh is that how you spell his name? Good to know.
Maybe he has an airship.