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Orthos wrote:What's funny is that I had a similarly mockable last name, and endured many years of grief over it. NobodysWife and I hyphenated to create an even more ridiculous last name, and both kids own it; their classmates think their name is "cool", and anyone who tries to mock it gets shut down very quickly. Of course, as I've mentioned, one of the huge improvements in our school district in the last 40 years is that their anti-bullying policy is comprehensive and has teeth; every report of bullying immediately results in the parents and the student being brought in and 100% belief in the purported victim until proven otherwise. It's been astonishingly effective; the bullying I hear about from my kids is nothing compared to what it was when I was growing up.In my case, it's simply because my surname is really really easy for kids to make fun of. It was the root of a large portion of the abuse and mockery I suffered at the hands of my fellow students for the entirety of my public-school life.
Maybe a bit childish and petty of me, but that was thirteen years of my life I'd rather not risk putting theoretical offspring through. I'm already dreading the first time my niece comes home with similar tales of unkind peers.
I will admit, this is a big thing that I've heard and I'm all in favor. My school was very much of the old-fashioned mindset of "kids will be kids", "bullying builds character", and "it's on the bullied kid to learn to stand up for themselves or stop giving the bullies reason to abuse them, not on the bully to stop abusing", which obviously did very little for my younger self's school-age well-being.
I can't speak for my old school, since it's still Small Town In South Texas, but I imagine anywhere else such a thing would no longer fly, which is probably the biggest improvement I could ever have wished for, just twenty years too late for me personally, heh.
As for name-changing, back in 1994 when NobodysWife and I got married, it was $15 for her to legally change her name, and $300 for me to change mine.
... what the heck?! Why the difference? Was the cultural imperative of "woman must take man's name" just that strong back then?
We haven't even looked at the prices for now, because we know the $0 of not changing at all is cheaper than anything we'd have to pay to do so. A quick Google says the price can be anywhere from $150 to $500, just for the court order alone, plus the fees for getting a new driver's license, passport, marriage license if you're doing it as part of that, and any other new paperwork you'll need. Can't find any mention of gender differentiation outside of "be careful if you're name-changing because you're transgender, if you change your name and legal gender too soon it might screw with your insurance".
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NobodysHome wrote:What's funny is that I had a similarly mockable last name, and endured many years of grief over it. NobodysWife and I hyphenated to create an even more ridiculous last name, and both kids own it; their classmates think their name is "cool", and anyone who tries to mock it gets shut down very quickly. Of course, as I've mentioned, one of the huge improvements in our school district in the last 40 years is that their anti-bullying policy is comprehensive and has teeth; every report of bullying immediately results in the parents and the student being brought in and 100% belief in the purported victim until proven otherwise. It's been astonishingly effective; the bullying I hear about from my kids is nothing compared to what it was when I was growing up.I will admit, this is a big thing that I've heard and I'm all in favor. My school was very much of the old-fashioned mindset of "kids will be kids", "bullying builds character", and "it's on the bullied kid to learn to stand up for themselves or stop giving the bullies reason to abuse them, not on the bully to stop abusing", which obviously did very little for my younger self's school-age well-being.
These days it's MUCH better. Impus Major got accused of bullying once. We dutifully went in. The conversation was pretty much:
Principal: This is what the other kid says happened.
NobodysHome: Is that a correct account, Impus Major?
IM: Yeah, but I didn't think it would bother them!
NH: So, the fact that we're here indicates that it DID bother him, doesn't it?
IM: (Sheepishly) Yeah.
Principal: OK. I think we're done here. Impus Major, I don't expect to see you here again. Understand?
IM: Yes!
And we never had to go in again. Gee, actually accepting that your kid might occasionally be a jerk to other kids! What a concept!
...what the heck?! Why the difference? Was the cultural imperative of "woman must take man's name" just that strong back then?
Kind of. The government records system wasn't fully-computerized back then (or so they claimed), so while they had all the mechanisms set up to change a woman's name, changing a man's name required that all the forms be filled out and done by hand, because the computers weren't set up for it. Hence the claimed price difference.
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Orthos wrote:...what the heck?! Why the difference? Was the cultural imperative of "woman must take man's name" just that strong back then?Kind of. The government records system wasn't fully-computerized back then (or so they claimed), so while they had all the mechanisms set up to change a woman's name, changing a man's name required that all the forms be filled out and done by hand, because the computers weren't set up for it. Hence the claimed price difference.
Sounds like that the practice showed at that time it's so unlikely for man to change surname after marriage, that it's not worthwhile to set up the system to support such change... And in a... Feedback loop? I think that's the term for it, create unintended extra barrier for those who would do, strengthening that norm in practice.
Though if the system didn't allowed for that, it must have been really shi**y system in the first place if it was written so changing data for men was different than for women, making purposeless distinctions.
Or it could be a bullshit excuse for actually enforcing the standard.
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NobodysHome wrote:Orthos wrote:...what the heck?! Why the difference? Was the cultural imperative of "woman must take man's name" just that strong back then?Kind of. The government records system wasn't fully-computerized back then (or so they claimed), so while they had all the mechanisms set up to change a woman's name, changing a man's name required that all the forms be filled out and done by hand, because the computers weren't set up for it. Hence the claimed price difference.Sounds like that the practice showed at that time it's so unlikely for man to change surname after marriage, that it's not worthwhile to set up the system to support such change... And in a... Feedback loop? I think that's the term for it, create unintended extra barrier for those who would do, strengthening that norm in practice.
Though if the system didn't allowed for that, it must have been really shi**y system in the first place if it was written so changing data for men was different than for women, making purposeless distinctions.
Or it could be a b&!&~+~* excuse for actually enforcing the standard.
Sorry, but I work in the enterprise software industry.
Technical Requirement: Women should be able to easily change their last names in all systems when they get married.
Engineer: "If sex = F..."
Engineers are WAY too literal with their coding. The requirement would have been, "Let women change their names," and the code would have started with some logical check as to whether or not the applicant was a woman.
Because that's how engineers do...
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I think in Wisconsin you have to put out an announcement in three different newspapers and dance counterclockwise around lady justice while also reciting your new name and rubbing your belly.
That's why we did it in Seattle, 80 dollars and twenty minutes in a courthouse and bam, all done.
Why you ask? It turns out hyphenating a Welsh last name and a German last name both beginning with the same letter was not the best idea.
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It sounds almost like an excuse why Microsoft skipped Windows 9 and went with 10...
** spoiler omitted **
I don't know why you spoilered it, because yeah, Microsoft was infamous for having a lot of its stuff date back to the MS-DOS days and requiring 8-character filenames.
Notice that Windows is 7 characters, so you only have room for one more.
Windows 9 would have broken a whole ton of legacy code. So you could argue that they did it for backwards compatibility. Consider me skeptical.
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Just a Mort wrote:'Mooning' is a colloquial term for showing your backside to someone. I assume that isn't what you meant...Now ok, confessions time. I've never started flirting with anyone in RL. I literally didn't feel the urge to approach guys. I mean Orlando Bloom, ok sure a little happy mooning, but nothing comes out of it.
What Orthos said.
[moon over someone] to spend time thinking about someone who you are attracted to rather than doing anything useful
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*Plys Mort with Mint and chocolate-chip ice-cream, while discussing Rpg's and what's for dinner later*
*purrs at Kjeldorn.* Can my BF join too?
He likes mint and chocolate chip icecream, and we actually have different ways of viewing RPGs. I'm the more lawful of us two, he's the free-spirit.
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I woke up at 3:30, read the news for an hour and fell back asleep. My body is starting to wake up as if I am already on Central time instead of Pacific. For over a month now, off and on.
If we can get everything done, we're leaving this afternoon.
I kept having nightmares about discovering other rooms full of stuff that hadn't been packed yet.
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I woke up at 3:30, read the news for an hour and fell back asleep. My body is starting to wake up as if I am already on Central time instead of Pacific. For over a month now, off and on.
If we can get everything done, we're leaving this afternoon.
I kept having nightmares about discovering other rooms full of stuff that hadn't been packed yet.
If you actually have the house already packed, then you're a better woman than I.
Every move I've ever done has ended up being, "Oh, we shouldn't pack that yet because we're still using it," and then on the day of the move 15-20 boxes' worth of our most-precious stuff getting thrown haphazardly into whatever container happened to be around (and much of it damaged) because we never quite managed to get organized enough to pack it all.
I hate moving.
In any case, since I doubt you want to bring a moving van down our street, especially when the kids are finally doing their stuffed animal sale, happy trails, safe travels, and be sure to drop me a line every time you're headed up for Oregon.
NobodysWife has never been to Dallas, and I don't think she ever wants to be, so getting her on a plane to go there would be... hard.
On the other hand, Ashland is lovely, and Medford is just a quick jaunt away, so we can try to arrange to meet up on occasion.
See you in the funny pages!
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Kjeldorn wrote:*Plys Mort with Mint and chocolate-chip ice-cream, while discussing Rpg's and what's for dinner later*
*purrs at Kjeldorn.* Can my BF join too?
He likes mint and chocolate chip icecream, and we actually have different ways of viewing RPGs. I'm the more lawful of us two, he's the free-spirit.
*Gives Mort a head-scratch*
Sure! the more the merrier.
First glimpse of the playtest
Nice and concise!
*Thumbs up*
Thanks Drejk, didn't even think to check the paladin's alignment restriction. Looks like they're still trying to walk the "conventional LG pallies now, others later" tightrope.
One can only hold out hope…
Credit where credit is due though, as nixed Alignment requirements on the Barbarian, Druid and Monk.Though they tightened thing on the Cleric…
*Shakes head*
(Hence my "Two steeps forward, One step back" elsewhere)
I woke up at 3:30, read the news for an hour and fell back asleep. My body is starting to wake up as if I am already on Central time instead of Pacific. For over a month now, off and on.
If we can get everything done, we're leaving this afternoon.
I kept having nightmares about discovering other rooms full of stuff that hadn't been packed yet.
*Pats LM on her shoulder*
Don't worry too much…Just think about how you'll get to rip the guts out of the moving-boxes, and decorate your home with 'em, once you get to your new home :P
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Ah, the joys of attempting to teach the rudiments of courtesy to your offspring!
I have to tell them that there's a huuuuuuge difference between one of their friends walking into the house and saying, "Hey, Impus! Can I get a Coke?" as opposed to, "Hey, Impus! Go get me a Coke!"
I'm torn because I loved the way my father ran his house: The fridge was always full of Cokes, the freezer was always full of ice cream, and all our friends respected his simple rules of, "ONE Coke per person per day. ONE bowl of ice cream per person per day. And you have to ask."
Impus Major's friends can't even manage that level of courtesy. So today Impus learns that either they figure it out, or they stop coming over.
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Tequila Sunrise wrote:Thanks Drejk, didn't even think to check the paladin's alignment restriction. Looks like they're still trying to walk the "conventional LG pallies now, others later" tightrope.One can only hold out hope…
Credit where credit is due though, as nixed Alignment requirements on the Barbarian, Druid and Monk.
Though they tightened thing on the Cleric…
*Shakes head*
(Hence my "Two steeps forward, One step back" elsewhere)
Hm, I don't see where non-LG pallies are promised.
So currently, the only classes with alignment restrictions are what? Cleric and paladin? Looks like they nixed the bard restriction too. The deity-by-deity cleric restrictions are irregular and seem like something that comes of a DM caring a bit too much about the minutiae of his/her homebrew world; but I'm cool with them. But then I've always been cool with the cleric's within-one-step restriction.
Assuming Paizo follows thru on more paladins -- or just dropping the current restriction in favor of the cleric's restriction -- I'll be impressed, alignment-wise.
I'm also impressed that Paizo is taking a page from 4e defenders, what with the paladin's retributive strike and the fighter being the only class capable of opportunity attacks.
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The Paladin preview on blog some time ago stated that they are reviewing options regarding paladins of other alignments.
I have no problem with alignment restriction on clerics because it's not restricting the class itself, only the choice of deity and the things that are deity-reliant. You can be cleric of any alignment you want, just pick the right deity.
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Kjeldorn wrote:Tequila Sunrise wrote:Thanks Drejk, didn't even think to check the paladin's alignment restriction. Looks like they're still trying to walk the "conventional LG pallies now, others later" tightrope.One can only hold out hope…
Credit where credit is due though, as nixed Alignment requirements on the Barbarian, Druid and Monk.
Though they tightened thing on the Cleric…
*Shakes head*
(Hence my "Two steeps forward, One step back" elsewhere)...The deity-by-deity cleric restrictions are irregular and seem like something that comes of a DM caring a bit too much about the minutiae of his/her homebrew world; but I'm cool with them. But then I've always been cool with the cleric's within-one-step restriction.
Assuming Paizo follows thru on more paladins -- or just dropping the current restriction in favor of the cleric's restriction -- I'll be impressed, alignment-wise.
Hmmm...
I'm more sceptical about the Cleric adjustments, as its a tightening of something I already found pretty restrictive (ie. the "one-step-rule").Really if they want the Cleric to be more "like" the deities they worship, I would much prefer it done by expanding the Anathems into something more akin to the new Paladins code (maybe 5 or 6 tiers) or follow Midgards example which is a kind of a list of clergy does and don'ts (and the Gods/goddess tend not to care as much about Alignment).
I'm also impressed that Paizo is taking a page from 4e defenders, what with the paladin's retributive strike and the fighter being the only class capable of opportunity attacks.
Retributive strike actually seems okay to me, though a Smite/Challenge/whatever like attack will be missed on my part at least.
The Fighter being the only class capable of opportunity attacks (at least from the onset) I'm a bit more on the fence about......
I have no problem with alignment restriction on clerics because it's not restricting the class itself, only the choice of deity and the things that are deity-reliant. You can be cleric of any alignment you want, just pick the right deity.
Yyeeaahhh, that's kind of true...I can see what you mean, just wish it was as easy as said.
Again prefer how its done in Midgard, where Gods/Goddesses care less for the Alignment of their followers, and more if they keep the tenets of the faith.Then again, Alignment is all kinds of screwy in Midgard ^^'
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Yeah I'm cool with no cleric restrictions, as well as deity-specific codes, and I see the advantage. Temple schisms and rogue priests become a lot easier and more believable when the gods aren't constantly eavesdropping on their priests, and all priests of a given deity have the same access to spells regardless of alignment. I'm currently GMing a game without alignment restrictions, and I'm happy with it.
What's Midgard btw?
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Yeah I'm cool with no cleric restrictions, as well as deity-specific codes, and I see the advantage. Temple schisms and rogue priests become a lot easier and more believable when the gods aren't constantly eavesdropping on their priests, and all priests of a given deity have the same access to spells regardless of alignment. I'm currently GMing a game without alignment restrictions, and I'm happy with it.
What's Midgard btw?
The reason why, if I ever meet Wolfgang Baur in person, I will be seriously tempted to smack him on a head with a rolled newspaper.
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Tequila Sunrise wrote:Yeah I'm cool with no cleric restrictions, as well as deity-specific codes, and I see the advantage. Temple schisms and rogue priests become a lot easier and more believable when the gods aren't constantly eavesdropping on their priests, and all priests of a given deity have the same access to spells regardless of alignment. I'm currently GMing a game without alignment restrictions, and I'm happy with it.
What's Midgard btw?
The reason why, if I ever meet Wolfgang Baur in person, I will be seriously tempted to smack him on a head with a rolled newspaper.
Now you got me curious...
Any specific reason(s) for the newspaper smacking?
(if its a thing you are willing to share of cause...no pressure)
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Tequila Sunrise wrote:Yeah I'm cool with no cleric restrictions, as well as deity-specific codes, and I see the advantage. Temple schisms and rogue priests become a lot easier and more believable when the gods aren't constantly eavesdropping on their priests, and all priests of a given deity have the same access to spells regardless of alignment. I'm currently GMing a game without alignment restrictions, and I'm happy with it.
What's Midgard btw?
The reason why, if I ever meet Wolfgang Baur in person, I will be seriously tempted to smack him on a head with a rolled newspaper.
My word! A newspaper won't do! What you need is a banana! Remember to hit him thusly aside the crown!
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Drejk wrote:Tequila Sunrise wrote:Yeah I'm cool with no cleric restrictions, as well as deity-specific codes, and I see the advantage. Temple schisms and rogue priests become a lot easier and more believable when the gods aren't constantly eavesdropping on their priests, and all priests of a given deity have the same access to spells regardless of alignment. I'm currently GMing a game without alignment restrictions, and I'm happy with it.
What's Midgard btw?
The reason why, if I ever meet Wolfgang Baur in person, I will be seriously tempted to smack him on a head with a rolled newspaper.
Now you got me curious...
Any specific reason(s) for the newspaper smacking?
(if its a thing you are willing to share of cause...no pressure)
"The drastic details of the Wolfgang's villainous deed!"
In Midgard setting there is a realm called "Electoral Kingdom Of Krakova" that is rather clearly inspired by history of Poland and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Some of you might also recognize the name of the former capital of Poland, Kraków, which also happens to be the city I live in. I am perfectly willing to forgive Wolfgang using the wrong grammatical form (Krakova would be used when saying things like "Pochodzę z Krakowa" => I come from..., "Jadę do Krakowa" => I am going to...)
Alas, Wolfgang had to dig himself deeper... For he picked a mermaid for the crest of the Kingdom Of Krakova!
*looks around at confused faces and lets a quite sigh*
The mermaid is a crest of Warszawa, the current capital of Poland. Let's say here in Kraków, we have little but snarky contempt for Warszawa.
That's why, if I ever meet Wolfgang in person, I will be forced to explain to him enormity of his heinous crimes...
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Ah, kids' yard sales, where you spend $100 so your kids can make a $5 profit!
...a bunch of stuff we'll use for years to come, but yeah, my total outlay for this sale is around $120, and I think the kids are up to $5 in income.
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Kjeldorn wrote:Drejk wrote:Tequila Sunrise wrote:Yeah I'm cool with no cleric restrictions, as well as deity-specific codes, and I see the advantage. Temple schisms and rogue priests become a lot easier and more believable when the gods aren't constantly eavesdropping on their priests, and all priests of a given deity have the same access to spells regardless of alignment. I'm currently GMing a game without alignment restrictions, and I'm happy with it.
What's Midgard btw?
The reason why, if I ever meet Wolfgang Baur in person, I will be seriously tempted to smack him on a head with a rolled newspaper.
Now you got me curious...
Any specific reason(s) for the newspaper smacking?
(if its a thing you are willing to share of cause...no pressure)
"The drastic details of the Wolfgang's villainous deed!"
In Midgard setting there is a realm called "Electoral Kingdom Of Krakova" that is rather clearly inspired by history of Poland and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Some of you might also recognize the name of the former capital of Poland, Kraków, which also happens to be the city I live in. I am perfectly willing to forgive Wolfgang using the wrong grammatical form (Krakova would be used when saying things like "Pochodzę z Krakowa" => I come from..., "Jadę do Krakowa" => I am going to...)
Alas, Wolfgang had to dig himself deeper... For he picked a mermaid for the crest of the Kingdom Of Krakova!
*looks around at confused faces and lets a quite sigh*
The mermaid is a crest of Warszawa, the current capital of Poland. Let's say here in Kraków, we have little but snarky contempt for Warszawa.
That's why, if I ever meet Wolfgang in person, I will be forced to explain to him enormity of his heinous crimes...
as long as the mermaid bears a striking resemblance to lisamarlene(lisamerline?), I am willing to forgive him.
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Judge yourself. Mermaid of Warsaw wikipedia page. Includes photos of statues from various places across the city.
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"The drastic details of the Wolfgang's villainous deed!"In Midgard setting there is a realm called "Electoral Kingdom Of Krakova" that is rather clearly inspired by history of Poland and Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
Some of you might also recognize the name of the former capital of Poland, Kraków, which also happens to be the city I live in. I am perfectly willing to forgive Wolfgang using the wrong grammatical form (Krakova would be used when saying things like "Pochodzę z Krakowa" => I come from..., "Jadę do Krakowa" => I am going to...)
Alas, Wolfgang had to dig himself deeper... For he picked a mermaid for the crest of the Kingdom Of Krakova!
*looks around at confused faces and lets a quite sigh*
The mermaid is a crest of Warszawa, the current capital of Poland. Let's say here in Kraków, we have little but snarky contempt for Warszawa.
That's why, if I ever meet Wolfgang in person, I will be forced to explain to him enormity of his heinous crimes...
Tsk Tsk
*Nods sagely*
Sever crimes indeed! :P
Guess you'd rather settle for a crest with some variation of the royal white eagle ^^
Edit: *Yawns* Think is about nighty night time for me FaWtLers… Goodnight!
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Judge yourself. Mermaid of Warsaw wikipedia page. Includes photos of statues from various places across the city.
while I wholeheartedly approve of the naked mermaid with a sword, I would not know if that is what lisamarlene looks like in just about every sense of that particular phrase.
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Ah, the joys of attempting to teach the rudiments of courtesy to your offspring!
I have to tell them that there's a huuuuuuge difference between one of their friends walking into the house and saying, "Hey, Impus! Can I get a Coke?" as opposed to, "Hey, Impus! Go get me a Coke!"
I'm torn because I loved the way my father ran his house: The fridge was always full of Cokes, the freezer was always full of ice cream, and all our friends respected his simple rules of, "ONE Coke per person per day. ONE bowl of ice cream per person per day. And you have to ask."
Impus Major's friends can't even manage that level of courtesy. So today Impus learns that either they figure it out, or they stop coming over.
Whhhuuuttt? You mean no second helpings?=(
coke,np. I don't really care for it, anyway. But ice cream? =(
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Seems to me that ol' Wolfgang's answer to "carbon-copy" accusations is the fabled "mix-'em-and-match-'em" ploy.
I can kinda understand that. But I also fully relate to our red wyrm's utter frustration . . . .
I've got extra newspapers, Drejk, just in case you wanna quintuple-whammy the guy . . . . :)