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lisamarlene wrote:

The kind my sister has is currently less than 100, but the color pattern is one of their standard ones. They have super fancy designs that run much higher.

It's fun to swim in, but unless you have your own pool and swim a lot, probably not worth it.

please tell me there is a battle mermaid option that comes with a trident and attached torpedo launchers you can use to deep six your enemies.


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Yes, those kinds of torpedoes too, for the adult mermaids of course.


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Scintillae wrote:
Orthos wrote:
I sympathise, TL. I unfortunately don't have much advice, though, as my solutions tend to be summarized as "don't talk about my hobbies with family members unless they're already involved in them".

Whereas I go the complete opposite direction and talk way too much about them until said family members beg me to stop. They usually don't ask again.

I've just started calling it "drama club with math" to anyone who asks about it. Everyone knows what drama club is, i.e. - just pretending, so that works pretty well to allay my kiddos' parental concerns.

cunning.

I approve.


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Vanykrye wrote:

Also, I did that drive up to Mt Horeb and Madison from Peoria via Bloomington (picked up Zelda in Bloomington) after only 3 hours sleep.

Was back at the office just before 11pm on Friday night, Network team made their changes, found a bunch of stuff going wrong, eventually decided that they had to scrap the changes for now and revert back. So I got home around 2:15am because they didn't actually test this before trying to implement it (again), couldn't get to sleep until about 3am, then was up at 6am to get the cats fed and make it to Mt Horeb in time for lunch (The Grumpy Troll, while nothing particularly special to look at, has phenomenal food and beer).

I only nearly fell asleep once on the way back home, which was otherwise uneventful.

And it meant that when Aiymi's mother went to bed Saturday night, she was the only one in the house, but when she woke up, it was me, Aiymi, Zelda, and 2/3 of the kids (which also meant we stopped in Bloomington again on the way back home to drop off the eldest and pick up the younglings). Surprise!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HANGING OUT WITH STRANGERS FROM ONLINE


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Kjeldorn wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:


am personally disappointed that they decided to go with "occult" instead of "psychic" as one of those has a heavy dose of real-world implications that make it difficult for me to tell my family, "No, really, this isn't of the devil." This, quite prominently, is one of the many things that makes me shy away from Pathfinder's "psychic" stuff - so much of it is cast exclusively as "occult"-design, and, honestly, that's just a painful thing when attempting to discuss things with highly conservative U.S.-based southern-style Christians.

"Hey, no, really, it's not of the devil!"

"It, uh... it literally says it's 'occult.' I mean, it's right there?"

"Y-... yeah."

And, let me be clear, this has nothing to do with real-world Wiccans or anyone of any other real faith whatsoever. When you have a whole generation of people who grew up with literature suggesting that role playing games lead to the occult (and associate that with "witchcraft" - which, let's be clear, is not the Wiccan kind), means that having a product literally label itself "occult" - regardless of intent - makes it a really hard sell.

Because you're going to have to have conversations and education, and that's not something you're going to be able to do. So your options become, "just don't play this thing," or "avoid the conversation," or, "spend an excessive time trying to explain things in a way that doesn't invite reproach (and, by the way, given that people tend to look for things that confirm their bias, you're going to be fighting an uphill battle)" - and none of those are fun or good. It's one of the reasons that I love that it's named "Pathfinder" - I like D&D, but it's had such powerful negative connotations, culturally, that I can break free of those with a new name, and maybe even show off the Core rulebook and go over things, if people prove interested.

... but now, that's just... not possible. It requires too much work and effort, and, honestly, I just don't want the drama.

But then

...

I have always been more combative with respect to that due to personal reasons, life choices, and my ethnic background. If someone is too dumb to understand that no, I am not sacrificing cats or Black Rosing it up, then that's on them. I will attempt to educate, but I am happy to leave someone to trip over their own ignorance, as pain is the best teacher/helps the lesson go in faster. If they get violent, I will defend myself as befits the situation.


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Orthos wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
gran rey de los mono wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
I think the U.S. equivalent would be mixing up sportsball teams.
I sometimes do that intentionally in order to try and get people to stop talking sports with me.
I once had a guy threaten to beat me up (or "punch me in the f~~#ing face" as he put it) because I was (successfully) comparing fantasy football to D&D.
I do that all the time. Not to their faces, mind.

its just another type of fantasy.

The Exchange

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Oh you'd better not be sacrificing cats, Freehold, or we'll have words =)


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Vanykrye wrote:

Visited with Cap and Family on Saturday again. Tiny T-Rex is insane. Cap is so screwed.

We're at one of the local game shops, and I was needling Cap on picking up the PF Playtest book. He had picked it up and set it back down 6-7 times.

Then I said something to the effect of "If you've got $30 to spend, I mean your choices are pretty much one of these Star Wars minis or the playtest."

Tiny T-Rex, holding a couple plastic/rubber Pokemons and a plastic Pokeball: "Can I spend $30?"

Cap and I simultaneously: "Nooo..."

Tiny: "But why..." (getting that pouty sound in his voice, like he's on the edge of crying, but it sounded a little too manipulative to me)

Cap, after a minor discussion about how much money Tiny actually has: "Yes, you could spend that much on Poke stuff, OR you could keep saving it for that Nintendo you want."

Tiny: "I'm not going to do that, because I can just get the Nintendo from Santa at Christmas, and then I can get all the rest of the stuff I want myself!"

Me, just under my breath to Cap: "You are so screwed."

Cap: "I feel really bad for this kid's dad when he becomes a teenager."

Santa may bring him some coal this year.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Kjeldorn wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:


am personally disappointed that they decided to go with "occult" instead of "psychic" as one of those has a heavy dose of real-world implications that make it difficult for me to tell my family, "No, really, this isn't of the devil." This, quite prominently, is one of the many things that makes me shy away from Pathfinder's "psychic" stuff - so much of it is cast exclusively as "occult"-design, and, honestly, that's just a painful thing when attempting to discuss things with highly conservative U.S.-based southern-style Christians.

"Hey, no, really, it's not of the devil!"

"It, uh... it literally says it's 'occult.' I mean, it's right there?"

"Y-... yeah."

And, let me be clear, this has nothing to do with real-world Wiccans or anyone of any other real faith whatsoever. When you have a whole generation of people who grew up with literature suggesting that role playing games lead to the occult (and associate that with "witchcraft" - which, let's be clear, is not the Wiccan kind), means that having a product literally label itself "occult" - regardless of intent - makes it a really hard sell.

Because you're going to have to have conversations and education, and that's not something you're going to be able to do. So your options become, "just don't play this thing," or "avoid the conversation," or, "spend an excessive time trying to explain things in a way that doesn't invite reproach (and, by the way, given that people tend to look for things that confirm their bias, you're going to be fighting an uphill battle)" - and none of those are fun or good. It's one of the reasons that I love that it's named "Pathfinder" - I like D&D, but it's had such powerful negative connotations, culturally, that I can break free of those with a new name, and maybe even show off the Core rulebook and go over things, if people prove interested.

... but now, that's just... not possible. It requires too much work and effort, and, honestly, I just don't want

...

There are certain people in the US who still haven't gotten past the Satanic Scare of the 80's. Unfortunately for Tac, Florida (and the Southeast US in general) has a lot of these people.

Tac, you and I generally don't speak the same language when it comes to religion (and not in a bad/argumentative way - just different lives, experiences, beliefs, it's all good), but is it possible to explain to your friends/family that it's about having enough confidence in your faith to be able to differentiate between a game (and really, let's put this as realistically as possible - a game of pretend/make-believe) and an actual test of faith?


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Vanykrye wrote:

Visited with Cap and Family on Saturday again. Tiny T-Rex is insane. Cap is so screwed.

We're at one of the local game shops, and I was needling Cap on picking up the PF Playtest book. He had picked it up and set it back down 6-7 times.

Then I said something to the effect of "If you've got $30 to spend, I mean your choices are pretty much one of these Star Wars minis or the playtest."

Tiny T-Rex, holding a couple plastic/rubber Pokemons and a plastic Pokeball: "Can I spend $30?"

Cap and I simultaneously: "Nooo..."

Tiny: "But why..." (getting that pouty sound in his voice, like he's on the edge of crying, but it sounded a little too manipulative to me)

Cap, after a minor discussion about how much money Tiny actually has: "Yes, you could spend that much on Poke stuff, OR you could keep saving it for that Nintendo you want."

Tiny: "I'm not going to do that, because I can just get the Nintendo from Santa at Christmas, and then I can get all the rest of the stuff I want myself!"

Me, just under my breath to Cap: "You are so screwed."

Cap: "I feel really bad for this kid's dad when he becomes a teenager."

Is the nintendo in question a switch??

It should be.


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Vanykrye wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Kjeldorn wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:


am personally disappointed that they decided to go with "occult" instead of "psychic" as one of those has a heavy dose of real-world implications that make it difficult for me to tell my family, "No, really, this isn't of the devil." This, quite prominently, is one of the many things that makes me shy away from Pathfinder's "psychic" stuff - so much of it is cast exclusively as "occult"-design, and, honestly, that's just a painful thing when attempting to discuss things with highly conservative U.S.-based southern-style Christians.

"Hey, no, really, it's not of the devil!"

"It, uh... it literally says it's 'occult.' I mean, it's right there?"

"Y-... yeah."

And, let me be clear, this has nothing to do with real-world Wiccans or anyone of any other real faith whatsoever. When you have a whole generation of people who grew up with literature suggesting that role playing games lead to the occult (and associate that with "witchcraft" - which, let's be clear, is not the Wiccan kind), means that having a product literally label itself "occult" - regardless of intent - makes it a really hard sell.

Because you're going to have to have conversations and education, and that's not something you're going to be able to do. So your options become, "just don't play this thing," or "avoid the conversation," or, "spend an excessive time trying to explain things in a way that doesn't invite reproach (and, by the way, given that people tend to look for things that confirm their bias, you're going to be fighting an uphill battle)" - and none of those are fun or good. It's one of the reasons that I love that it's named "Pathfinder" - I like D&D, but it's had such powerful negative connotations, culturally, that I can break free of those with a new name, and maybe even show off the Core rulebook and go over things, if people prove interested.

... but now, that's just... not possible. It requires too much work and effort,

...

The very, very few people I have met with a problem on these things tend to believe that make believe is just as wrong as the real thing.

At the very least they tend to be consistent enough to disapprove of Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings and other magical fantasies.
Some even have issues with Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.
YMMV, but hey, respect and educate.

Shadow Lodge

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+1 to the Hamster.

The problem is compounded when the typical punishment for dabbling in things the Community believes shouldn't be messed with is shunning and separation from family and friends and a severing of that social support network. I can't speak 100% for TL, as he and I of are different denominations, but have enough similarities that I'm fairly sure this holds true between us.

If TL holds his ground and members of his religious community feel strongly enough that this interest is a danger to his or his family's souls to press the issue, it's quite likely the response could be exceptionally unpleasant in the loss of friends and religious colleagues and the emotional support they provide him.


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Luckily my family grew up playing D&D, so no issues with that.

I was kicked out of my Lutheran Sunday school for recruiting half the class for a game and then kicked out of another for taking their "How would you make god" a bit too literally (I brought in a whole pantheon).

The third Sunday school I was kicked out of was only tangentially related to D&D.

The fourth (and last) was about girls.

Quackers are the only religious group that hasn't kicked me out. :-)


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Orthos wrote:

+1 to the Hamster.

The problem is compounded when the typical punishment for dabbling in things the Community believes shouldn't be messed with is shunning and separation from family and friends and a severing of that social support network. I can't speak 100% for TL, as he and I of are different denominations, but have enough similarities that I'm fairly sure this holds true between us.

If TL holds his ground and members of his religious community feel strongly enough that this interest is a danger to his or his family's souls to press the issue, it's quite likely the response could be exceptionally unpleasant in the loss of friends and religious colleagues and the emotional support they provide him.

Which honestly does not read to an outsider as they likely intend.

It seems like it is either A) needlessly cruel and borders on emotional blackmail ("If you ever want to see your friends and family again, you must...") or B) is likely to misfire horribly either due to encouraging the offender to habitually lie or to land on a target that sees it as a reward rather than a punishment (You mean...because your constant lecturing and making me feel uncomfortable hasn't worked, you're going to punish me by...not lecturing me and leave me in peace?).


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That really sucks Tac, sorry you have to deal with the enduring lies of the satanic panic.

While we’re on the topic of occult classes, I actually have no idea what their deal is. Haven’t played PF for years, never even looked at them in the SRD. I’d be interested to hear from Cap and other fans what they like about occult classes.

As for ancestries, I was initially intrigued. I like simple races with short lists of useful traits, so the idea of super stripped-down ancestries with optional traits was appealing. But then I realized that 1) you have to take an ancestry feat every so often, and 2) the one that I randomly alighted upon to read seems super niche and minor. (It’s the Halfling feat that grants a minor bonus to notice possession.) Don’t know if all ancestry feats are so circumstantial, but my totally unscientific second impression is ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…


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Oh, gods. Maril's player is telling me a little of the Rainbow's piracy escapades.

"They went to a village, and I had to retcon it was stationed by the Chelish because they realized they might have killed a bunch of local innocents."
"They sailed up to a fishing vessel without killing anyone because they just wanted to buy fish."
"Right now they're panicking because their 90-something crew members haven't been paid."
"They want to start an empire but it's not going well."

I am so afraid of what I'm going to inherit.


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Personally, I think three classes are enough.

1) Do a smash
2) Do a spell
3) Do a sneak.

This is why I do not work in game design.

Shadow Lodge

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Soooooo basically 1e? =) Though even 1e had two versions of "do a spell", with Priest and Magic-User.

Note: I have obviously never player 1e, this is purely my understanding via years of cultural osmosis.


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In first edition they were still called clerics, in 2nd edition is when they tried to lump cleric and druid together and call them priests, with, I believe, druid being a specialty priest.

Bard was also lumped in with thieves as Rogues and was an optional class (allowable only by DM).


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Breath of the Wild Addict wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

Visited with Cap and Family on Saturday again. Tiny T-Rex is insane. Cap is so screwed.

We're at one of the local game shops, and I was needling Cap on picking up the PF Playtest book. He had picked it up and set it back down 6-7 times.

Then I said something to the effect of "If you've got $30 to spend, I mean your choices are pretty much one of these Star Wars minis or the playtest."

Tiny T-Rex, holding a couple plastic/rubber Pokemons and a plastic Pokeball: "Can I spend $30?"

Cap and I simultaneously: "Nooo..."

Tiny: "But why..." (getting that pouty sound in his voice, like he's on the edge of crying, but it sounded a little too manipulative to me)

Cap, after a minor discussion about how much money Tiny actually has: "Yes, you could spend that much on Poke stuff, OR you could keep saving it for that Nintendo you want."

Tiny: "I'm not going to do that, because I can just get the Nintendo from Santa at Christmas, and then I can get all the rest of the stuff I want myself!"

Me, just under my breath to Cap: "You are so screwed."

Cap: "I feel really bad for this kid's dad when he becomes a teenager."

Is the nintendo in question a switch??

It should be.

A 2DS or 3DS.

Say, you're all Nintendo literate, what exactly is the difference between the two.

And please, be as specific as you want and explain it as you would to a five year old (Tiny T-Rex is 7, but we're talking to me here, my technology expertise is definitely more in line with a five year old).


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I really liked the oft-overlooked effort that WotC put into the three "generic" classes in that 3.x splatbook (never can recall whether it's "arcana" or "unearthed" that goes first in their publication's title). And the class variants, too -- those were cool. Paladins of the four extreme alignments. Fighters with sneak attack. Rogues with bonus combat feats (holycheeseballs!). . . . And the one I totally skipped until after I had found the joy of Pathfinder clerics: a cleric that swaps channel energy for *smite*.

Though I'd only consider it with the Pathfinder smite . . . .

But, anyway -- [Insert Shameless Spheres of Might and Power Plug Here.]


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Rangers and Paladins were subclasses of the Fighter.


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When, exactly, will Deep 7 FaWtL be made?


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Orthos wrote:

+1 to the Hamster.

The problem is compounded when the typical punishment for dabbling in things the Community believes shouldn't be messed with is shunning and separation from family and friends and a severing of that social support network. I can't speak 100% for TL, as he and I of are different denominations, but have enough similarities that I'm fairly sure this holds true between us.

If TL holds his ground and members of his religious community feel strongly enough that this interest is a danger to his or his family's souls to press the issue, it's quite likely the response could be exceptionally unpleasant in the loss of friends and religious colleagues and the emotional support they provide him.

Scintillae wrote:

Which honestly does not read to an outsider as they likely intend.

It seems like it is either A) needlessly cruel and borders on emotional blackmail ("If you ever want to see your friends and family again, you must...") or B) is likely to misfire horribly either due to encouraging the offender to habitually lie or to land on a target that sees it as a reward rather than a punishment (You mean...because your constant lecturing and making me feel uncomfortable hasn't worked, you're going to punish me by...not lecturing me and leave me in peace?).

The Hamster and Orthos have the right of it.

... and Scint provides the beginnings of much-needed context.

It's really less, "Woe is me, I've no one to talk to." (as I've a super-hot wife who's just as into it as I am; though I really, really appreciate the offers and support!), but more, "Daggummit, you're taking away my ability to discuss things in a reasonable tone with those who were thoroughly educated into specific term-based reactionary design, and there is no graceful way to overcome that: what a daggum pain, and add it to the pile of 'harmless topics to avoid for familial harmony... again.' Sigh."

See, there is no arm-twisting or emotional blackmail.

The situation is thus:

- 1) people were taught, once, that "X is evil and causes problems, because Y." This was incredibly pervasive.

- 2) due to that, they have legitimate and honestly well-meaning concerns about X; unfortunately, the nature of what they were taught is recursive, because it also delves in to how such topics psychologically condition you to ignore evidence: such teaching is problematic because it also psychologically conditions you to ignore evidence. Hence you have genuinely good people with genuinely good intent that cannot see where they are incorrect, because they have been trained to perceive anything that supports their view while dismissing things that oppose it.

- 3) with all of that, while they are reasonable and generally open to listening about many topics, there are a number that they will simply shut you down about, considering such things fundamentally broken or wrong.

And, listen, all: this is true of absolutely every single people-group, organization, or movement that has ever existed.

This is not a, "My parents are conservative Christians, alas! What morons!"

This is a, "My family is part of a cultural norm that happens to have a very specific set of expressions of a broader human trend in a specific way that is inconvenient and frustrating for me; the other group that I would tend to rely upon for support in making potential inroads into persuasion is actively undermining any method that I would rely on, because they have, by-and-large, generally washed their hands of the whole thing, and don't care about the acceptance of that particular people-group anymore. So, like literally everywhere else in the world, but not nearly so serious as in some places, because my family will always love me and try to help me (as best they know how), no matter what - it's just a particularly annoying brand of not-actually-needed 'help' in this context, that would make them sad, and I like and delight in them too much to just go around making them sad for no real reason by talking about what I do in my happy fun make believe time."


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When we break the forum.


Cheapy wrote:
When, exactly, will Deep 7 FaWtL be made?

When this one breaks the internet forums, again.

Maybe never, but maybe in a bit. We've already shopped around for new names.

Something referencing Samurai/Magnificent 7 seems to have been most broadly approved, but there were several promising contenders.


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You know, Scint, you could at least be gracious and pretend like you're less pithy and well-spoken and more needlessly wordy. Dang it.

XD


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Cheapy wrote:
When, exactly, will Deep 7 FaWtL be made?

That's the best part!

No one knows. :-)

Silver Crusade

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Cheapy wrote:
When, exactly, will Deep 7 FaWtL be made?

Probably never. PMG updated the coding of the boards so that threads are stable no matter how many posts are in them. They used to bug out at about 20k, but now we’ve got 200k and growing. So no need for a new thread.

Although if there was one, it would not be called “Deep 7 FAWTL”. “Deep 6” is a pun on the number 6. It would have to be something like “FAWTL 7th Heaven” or some other 7-related pun.


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Tacticslion wrote:

You know, Scint, you could at least be gracious and pretend like you're less pithy and well-spoken and more needlessly wordy. Dang it.

XD

Eh.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Breath of the Wild Addict wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

Visited with Cap and Family on Saturday again. Tiny T-Rex is insane. Cap is so screwed.

We're at one of the local game shops, and I was needling Cap on picking up the PF Playtest book. He had picked it up and set it back down 6-7 times.

Then I said something to the effect of "If you've got $30 to spend, I mean your choices are pretty much one of these Star Wars minis or the playtest."

Tiny T-Rex, holding a couple plastic/rubber Pokemons and a plastic Pokeball: "Can I spend $30?"

Cap and I simultaneously: "Nooo..."

Tiny: "But why..." (getting that pouty sound in his voice, like he's on the edge of crying, but it sounded a little too manipulative to me)

Cap, after a minor discussion about how much money Tiny actually has: "Yes, you could spend that much on Poke stuff, OR you could keep saving it for that Nintendo you want."

Tiny: "I'm not going to do that, because I can just get the Nintendo from Santa at Christmas, and then I can get all the rest of the stuff I want myself!"

Me, just under my breath to Cap: "You are so screwed."

Cap: "I feel really bad for this kid's dad when he becomes a teenager."

Is the nintendo in question a switch??

It should be.

A 2DS or 3DS.

Say, you're all Nintendo literate, what exactly is the difference between the two.

And please, be as specific as you want and explain it as you would to a five year old (Tiny T-Rex is 7, but we're talking to me here, my technology expertise is definitely more in line with a five year old).

3ds can play most 2ds games.

I grew up on gameboy advanced, so my ability to recommend games is limited to what I hear.


Syrus Terrigan wrote:

I really liked the oft-overlooked effort that WotC put into the three "generic" classes in that 3.x splatbook (never can recall whether it's "arcana" or "unearthed" that goes first in their publication's title). And the class variants, too -- those were cool. Paladins of the four extreme alignments. Fighters with sneak attack. Rogues with bonus combat feats (holycheeseballs!). . . . And the one I totally skipped until after I had found the joy of Pathfinder clerics: a cleric that swaps channel energy for *smite*.

Though I'd only consider it with the Pathfinder smite . . . .

But, anyway -- [Insert Shameless Spheres of Might and Power Plug Here.]

"Unearthed Arcana" - it's a good book.

Silver Crusade

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Afternoon, all. What did I miss?


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Scintillae wrote:
Eh.

D-... dang it. W-well... played... ng.


Celestial Healer wrote:
Afternoon, all. What did I miss?

Scint pwnd me, verbally, and I cried about something entirely unrelated, making FaWtL needlessly worry about my personal safety and/or social health.

Also, I just feel fatigued upon thinking about trying to learn PF2.

Cap's gotta figure stuff out 'bout them modern 'lectronic thingamajiggers what made by Nin-ten-doe.

Other folk got no idea.

Other things, I probably didn't pay attention to, because I've gotta leave the house, now.

How're you?


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captain yesterday wrote:
Breath of the Wild Addict wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

Visited with Cap and Family on Saturday again. Tiny T-Rex is insane. Cap is so screwed.

We're at one of the local game shops, and I was needling Cap on picking up the PF Playtest book. He had picked it up and set it back down 6-7 times.

Then I said something to the effect of "If you've got $30 to spend, I mean your choices are pretty much one of these Star Wars minis or the playtest."

Tiny T-Rex, holding a couple plastic/rubber Pokemons and a plastic Pokeball: "Can I spend $30?"

Cap and I simultaneously: "Nooo..."

Tiny: "But why..." (getting that pouty sound in his voice, like he's on the edge of crying, but it sounded a little too manipulative to me)

Cap, after a minor discussion about how much money Tiny actually has: "Yes, you could spend that much on Poke stuff, OR you could keep saving it for that Nintendo you want."

Tiny: "I'm not going to do that, because I can just get the Nintendo from Santa at Christmas, and then I can get all the rest of the stuff I want myself!"

Me, just under my breath to Cap: "You are so screwed."

Cap: "I feel really bad for this kid's dad when he becomes a teenager."

Is the nintendo in question a switch??

It should be.

A 2DS or 3DS.

Say, you're all Nintendo literate, what exactly is the difference between the two.

And please, be as specific as you want and explain it as you would to a five year old (Tiny T-Rex is 7, but we're talking to me here, my technology expertise is definitely more in line with a five year old).

2DS doesn't have a 3D capability and is a big rectangle that doesn't fold. Cost about 40 bucks less than a 3DS when I got mine and still lets me play Pokemon.

Shadow Lodge

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Scintillae wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:

You know, Scint, you could at least be gracious and pretend like you're less pithy and well-spoken and more needlessly wordy. Dang it.

XD

Eh.

Why bother?


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Moments that make you proud of your children.

Tiny T-Rex and Crookshanks asked if they could go to the local coffee shop for iced tea and free wi-fi to download games onto their devices, so of course i say yes, and being in a good mood took out my wallet.

Me: I have four dollars if you want it

Tiny T-Rex: Thanks! This will make a great tip!

Clearly at some point we're going to have a talk about money, but not this time.


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Cheapy wrote:
When, exactly, will Deep 7 FaWtL be made?

never.


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Vanykrye wrote:

Visited with Cap and Family on Saturday again. Tiny T-Rex is insane. Cap is so screwed.

We're at one of the local game shops, and I was needling Cap on picking up the PF Playtest book. He had picked it up and set it back down 6-7 times.

Then I said something to the effect of "If you've got $30 to spend, I mean your choices are pretty much one of these Star Wars minis or the playtest."

Tiny T-Rex, holding a couple plastic/rubber Pokemons and a plastic Pokeball: "Can I spend $30?"

Cap and I simultaneously: "Nooo..."

Tiny: "But why..." (getting that pouty sound in his voice, like he's on the edge of crying, but it sounded a little too manipulative to me)

Cap, after a minor discussion about how much money Tiny actually has: "Yes, you could spend that much on Poke stuff, OR you could keep saving it for that Nintendo you want."

Tiny: "I'm not going to do that, because I can just get the Nintendo from Santa at Christmas, and then I can get all the rest of the stuff I want myself!"

Me, just under my breath to Cap: "You are so screwed."

Cap: "I feel really bad for this kid's dad when he becomes a teenager."

We had a blast! Next time we'll have to meet you at the Grumpy Troll or something (the General unfortunately had to work this last Saturday, and i didn't think of until just now).

The General loved that she finally had someone to look through dated magazines with.

Edit: Also, i may, or may not have made a mix cd for the car specifically so i could put The One I Love on it.


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Freehold DM wrote:

Pah.

Freehold is old school. 3.x derivative or nothing.

3.x is old school now?

It's at least as "old school" as those who were Grognards, at the time, first complaining about what would become 1e, those who were Grognards at the time first complaining about 2e, and those who were Grognards at the time first complaining about 3e.

Potentially older, really, given we're at eighteen years, now, depending on when, exactly, you start counting... though if you lump Advanced and 2nd edition as one, or even the various 2nd editions - both of which are fair to do, I'd say, if you're following the whole 3.X lifetime - it's not quite comparable, having gone '77 (Advanced first appeared) to '99 (the advent of 3e happening in '00).

Still, "nearly two decades" is respectable enough that it outlasted both original and basic D&D (which fell by the wayside for Advanced and 2e) by significant margins, and is only eclipsed, time-wise, by a system that had started failing sales-wise (rather, it was not as financially viable, partially due to somewhat flagging sales compared to the past, partially due to financial mismanagement).

... and, I mean, hey, it outlasted the entire military career of the original Grognards, so there's that. XD


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Is it FaWtL 7 yet?


TOZ wrote:
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Tacticslion wrote:

You know, Scint, you could at least be gracious and pretend like you're less pithy and well-spoken and more needlessly wordy. Dang it.

XD

Eh.
Why bother?

H-hey, now! Teaming up like that is just cruel! Just cruel, I say!

Dang it!


captain yesterday wrote:

Moments that make you proud of your children.

Tiny T-Rex and Crookshanks asked if they could go to the local coffee shop for iced tea and free wi-fi to download games onto their devices, so of course i say yes, and being in a good mood took out my wallet.

Me: I have four dollars if you want it

Tiny T-Rex: Thanks! This will make a great tip!

Clearly at some point we're going to have a talk about money, but not this time.

Do... do you have four dollars if I want it?

(This message has be brought to you by, "Just for Yucks!" Our motto, is, "Remember, don't actually give us money! It just encourages us!")


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checks abscondi-cave, ice cream dungeons, around town, comes up empty handed

Has anyone seen lynora?

Shadow Lodge

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Scintillae wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Breath of the Wild Addict wrote:
Vanykrye wrote:

Visited with Cap and Family on Saturday again. Tiny T-Rex is insane. Cap is so screwed.

We're at one of the local game shops, and I was needling Cap on picking up the PF Playtest book. He had picked it up and set it back down 6-7 times.

Then I said something to the effect of "If you've got $30 to spend, I mean your choices are pretty much one of these Star Wars minis or the playtest."

Tiny T-Rex, holding a couple plastic/rubber Pokemons and a plastic Pokeball: "Can I spend $30?"

Cap and I simultaneously: "Nooo..."

Tiny: "But why..." (getting that pouty sound in his voice, like he's on the edge of crying, but it sounded a little too manipulative to me)

Cap, after a minor discussion about how much money Tiny actually has: "Yes, you could spend that much on Poke stuff, OR you could keep saving it for that Nintendo you want."

Tiny: "I'm not going to do that, because I can just get the Nintendo from Santa at Christmas, and then I can get all the rest of the stuff I want myself!"

Me, just under my breath to Cap: "You are so screwed."

Cap: "I feel really bad for this kid's dad when he becomes a teenager."

Is the nintendo in question a switch??

It should be.

A 2DS or 3DS.

Say, you're all Nintendo literate, what exactly is the difference between the two.

And please, be as specific as you want and explain it as you would to a five year old (Tiny T-Rex is 7, but we're talking to me here, my technology expertise is definitely more in line with a five year old).

2DS doesn't have a 3D capability and is a big rectangle that doesn't fold. Cost about 40 bucks less than a 3DS when I got mine and still lets me play Pokemon.

This.

Unless you REALLY REALLY REALLY want the 3D gimmick, get the 2DS. It plays all the same games and is cheaper (and slightly more durable, since it doens't have the clamshell hinges to break).

NOTE: The NEW 3/2DS is a slightly different system. Yeah, I know, it's stupid and confusing. New 3/2DS has a small handful of games only it can play, as well as all other 3DS and DS games. But it's again more expensive (though, once more, the New 2DS is cheaper than the New 3DS).


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I just like my 3ds.


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checks abscondi-cave, ice cream dungeons, around town, comes up empty handed

Has anyone seen lynora?

Not recently.


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Wait, Deep 6 is a pun?

...*Is oblivious*


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captain yesterday wrote:
Good mermaid tails are expensive! At least two hundred dollars.

Wow! You'll have to linky or some such.

I bought a mermaid tail blanket for little Hermione and it was roughly 1/10th that much.

Of course, she can't take it into the water...

Here you go!

Please note, the cost is hidden in the Monofin, also i guess it was something like 160-180 for two.

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