Good luck. Having said that, my advice is to NEVER touch any more alcohol for the rest of your life. Sorry, but IMHO that phase of your life should be over. The price for drinking alcohol is too high and you deserve to have a good life free from it. Sadly, the craving probably never will be gone.And we have reached Day 100!
My original plan was to go for 741 days to reach my 50th birthday.
Considering how remarkably difficult it's been, and how I still crave gin & tonics at least 2-3 times a week, I think we're looking at more like 1000 days.
If the cravings are still around then, we'll just keep going...
Actually, with a family history of heart disease and a clear indication that the alcohol was helping with at least that, I'd argue that it beats the alternatives in terms of long-term safety -- they're still trying to find the "safe" level in men and it seems to be at least 3 drinks a day.
But we can agree to disagree, and I've got at least a couple more years to ponder it. I'll be talking to my doctor about it next week, and we'll see what she says about the whole thing...
EDIT: My mother's the same way -- she's been on statins for 30-40 years now, and finally started getting the cramps associated with long-term use. She upped her red wine intake (nothing like an 84-year-old, 105-pound little old lady hitting 2-3 glasses a day) and lowered her statin intake and it worked well for her. So while the association between alcohol and cholesterol is questionable at best, we've got two family members who've seen their "bad" cholesterol levels managed by alcohol.
We're genetic freaks. Ibuprofen is an antifebrile for us. And doctors insist that's not possible. But it works WAAAAAAY better then aspirin or acetaminophen for us.
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...and apparently, a family history of traipsing about naked.
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I suppose he did leave his family behind.but the poor thing was tragically killed in an accident!i accidentlaly scratched one of my beard hairs out of its follicle! I'm so saddon't be.
The hair shall join its brethren in Tressrúmnir.
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i suppose he did leave his family behind.but the poor thing was tragically killed in an accident!i accidentlaly scratched one of my beard hairs out of its follicle! I'm so saddon't be.
COOKIE CAT! He's a pet for your tummy!
...and apparently, a family history of traipsing about naked.
if we look back far enough, all of us have a family history of traipsing about naked.
or if we count all those times between being dressed, such as bathing, being born and engaging in acts of the flesh, then we all have a history of being naked.
having both severe adhd and an anxiety disorder sucks, because my SSRI and CNS stimulant interact badly. this means I can't take both at the same time. I usually need my SSRI to control my anxiety, but sometimes I need my stimulant even more to get stuff done that cannot be left to the mercy of my adhd & executive dysfunction. So on days I need the stimulant, I don't take the SSRI.
the ssri has no adverse symptoms for me, but the stimulant feels unpleasant, even though while on it I do manage my tasks better and get more stuff done, and it can also make me feel anxious.
it's like if I want to control one disorder, I have to live with the other unfettered.
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Pray for me or keep me in your thoughts, a committee is reviewing my case. A lot is riding on their decision.
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Pray for me or keep me in your thoughts, a committee is reviewing my case. A lot is riding on their decision.
Shall do. Good luck.
I was a sufferer of ADHD and a stress disorder leading to panic attacks.
But I seem to have channeled the H part into athletics to good effect.
I control the rest of ADHD by making lists and following the list when I get distracted.
And since re dedicating my life to the lord Jesus my panic attacks have dropped from once a month to once a year.
The stress disorder is incurable but I can manage it with meditation or tranquilizers if it gets too painful.
Not sure if any of that would help you but hopefully it can.
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having both severe adhd and an anxiety disorder sucks, because my SSRI and CNS stimulant interact badly. this means I can't take both at the same time. I usually need my SSRI to control my anxiety, but sometimes I need my stimulant even more to get stuff done that cannot be left to the mercy of my adhd & executive dysfunction. So on days I need the stimulant, I don't take the SSRI.
the ssri has no adverse symptoms for me, but the stimulant feels unpleasant, even though while on it I do manage my tasks better and get more stuff done, and it can also make me feel anxious.
it's like if I want to control one disorder, I have to live with the other unfettered.
if you aren't already a part, please check out crazymeds.us, especially the crazy talk forum. Great community, very supportive people, although they are quieter nowadays.
I was a sufferer of ADHD and a stress disorder leading to panic attacks.
But I seem to have channeled the H part into athletics to good effect.
I control the rest of ADHD by making lists and following the list when I get distracted.
And since re dedicating my life to the lord Jesus my panic attacks have dropped from once a month to once a year.
The stress disorder is incurable but I can manage it with meditation or tranquilizers if it gets too painful.Not sure if any of that would help you but hopefully it can.
very happy to know you found something that works pretty regularly for you.
very happy to know you found something that works pretty regularly for you.I was a sufferer of ADHD and a stress disorder leading to panic attacks.
But I seem to have channeled the H part into athletics to good effect.
I control the rest of ADHD by making lists and following the list when I get distracted.
And since re dedicating my life to the lord Jesus my panic attacks have dropped from once a month to once a year.
The stress disorder is incurable but I can manage it with meditation or tranquilizers if it gets too painful.Not sure if any of that would help you but hopefully it can.
Yeah I hate taking pills, so I found a way to manage with almost none.
I have transcended beyond sweating and have become the very concept of perspiration itself.
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Water.
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I have transcended beyond sweating and have become the very concept of perspiration itself.
Are you Barnacle Boy? I need him to remember where I put the keys to the Invisible Boatmobile so we can rid this town of...Zzzzz...
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Water.
Earth. Fire. Air. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an airbender named Aang. And although his airbending skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe Aang can save the world.
I just had a brilliant piece of fridge logic about my Pathfinder campaign setting. It's Eberronish, but the magitech relies chiefly on alchemists instead of low level spellcasters. It's also based around the 1960s instead of the 1920s. The rise of drug culture is a part of the setting, given that it is supposed to emulate the Sixties, and I just realized something that totally backs this up. If alchemists are the main driver of technology, that means people are experimenting with all sorts of concoctions. Well, it stands to reason that some of those might get you really high. Like, magical high. Literally. People are probably snorting some sort of magic dust. Which means the rise of drug culture meshes perfectly with the alchemical basis of technology.
Yes, it's all starting to come together nicely.
More fridge logic time! I've been wondering what to do with Barbarians, since I don't have a lot of primitive tribes about (I certainly am not going to portray the large number of Sixties era American Indian expys as primitive). I renamed the class Berserker, and the lore about Berserkers has all sorts of drug stuff. Not sure as to how accurate the lore is, but this is fantasy, so it doesn't really matter. Now, everybody in the military is imbibing alchemical substances. I use Automatic Bonus Progression from Pathfinder Unchained to replace the big six magic items, and the fact that soldiers are all hopped up on alchemy is the in setting justification for how Automatic Bonus Progression works. You get more powerful, you can drink more without getting overwhelmed by the power, so your bonuses get bigger.
How does that tie into Berserkers (also Bloodragers and Skalds)? They are drinking magical aggression enhancers other characters don't drink, because the aggression enhancer make people really hyperactive. Berserkers have a ton of pent up energy, and tend not to be particularly good at sitting still or focusing on things that aren't really interesting or involve intense physical activity, and a lot of them pace if kept waiting somewhere because they can't just take a seat or stand in line quietly. They can't just only take the enhancers during combat, because it takes time to build the body up with that sort of thing, and if they stop taking it they go through withdrawal, and have to slowly build back up to strength if they start taking the enhancers again. If Berserkers don't rage every day (or at least every other day), they get more and more pent up energy, and start having focus problems bad enough that they take penalties to Int, Wis, and Cha rolls and stuff like that as they get worse and worse at focusing, and they get extremely restless and such. Berserkers don't have to rage in combat to avoid these problems. They'll be fine if they rage at practice dummies for a while, or play sports, or work out at the gym, or even go dancing. It just has to be intense physical exercise.
This also explains Masquerade Revelers, also known as the greatest Barbarian archetype ever. Rather than wearing masks, they use their own custom fae-connected drug blends that have effects way beyond aggression enhancers.
Great, now I'm thinking about orcish Berserker go-go dancers, because Sixties.
my organs are doing things i dont want them to be doing
make them stop
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my organs are doing things i dont want them to be doing
make them stop
Have you tried evisceration?
Have you tried evisceration?my organs are doing things i dont want them to be doing
make them stop
it's on the agenda
...Evil!!
Where did everyone go?
Where did everyone go?
Giantitp.
Work
Tuesday fencing is back - whoopee!
Just to be clear, we don't actually fight Tuesdays - that's when the class is held. Honestly, you people.
After I got home, I ironed some bed linen, then wondered what the ***k I was doing ironing bed linen.
I like the concept of go-go dancing berserkers very much.
Every time I play me3, I am amazed at the number of fasa properties mentioned liberally throughout the game. I wonder if that is intentional ribbing, if they are fans who got permission, or if the simply pulled a semi-mechwarrior/whedon.
What references did you see? I'm not familiar with too much of FASA's stuff.
I like the heat, but it's way too f%$%ing hot, especially for around here. >100*F in the shade at work today. It's the first time I've ever seen a foreman tell their crew that it was too hot to work-- we ended up sitting in a garage drinking water for a couple of hours near the end of the day.
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It's my birthday... I'm 16... Stay off the streets.Man, you're younger than I was when I started posting here, and I used to be the kid on these boards...
I wonder how many more years I have until there are people on the boards who weren't born yet when I made my first post.
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I wonder how many more years I have until there are people on the boards who weren't born yet when I made my first post.It's my birthday... I'm 16... Stay off the streets.Man, you're younger than I was when I started posting here, and I used to be the kid on these boards...
Probably about when some of the FAWTLfolk's kids start making profiles and posting.
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According to my research, the French national railroad owns a significant portion of Amtrak's shares. Furthermore, there is a privatised French public transit company that owns significant chunks of American public transportation, operating in such places as San Diego, Los Angeles, Napa, Sacramento, Redding, Victorville, Phoenix, Atlanta, Charleston, Miami, New Orleans, Denver, Austin, Boston, Las Vegas, Long Island, Greensboro, and Baltimore.
Just what the Devil are the French trying to do?
My guess? They probably underestimated how dreadful the U.S. railroad system is.
No backsies! It's yours now, suckers!
~curses up a storm~ Dratted insurance doing a automatic withdraw instead of sending me the damn bill so I can pay it without using my bank account!!!
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It is possible to commit seppuku with a lumberjack's axe? I imagine it is the only suitable penance for a Japanese-Canadian person who commits the dreadful sin of rudeness.
It is possible to commit seppuku with a lumberjack's axe? I imagine it is the only suitable penance for a Japanese-Canadian person who commits the dreadful sin of rudeness.
Eh.
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Unless that person is a Japanese-French-Canadian person, then rudeness would be the norm.
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The German language is inefficient enough to make English seem functional. Seriously. Eight plural forms and no clear rule about which one you're supposed to use when, because every rule has too many exceptions to follow. And Germans from different regions can't even understand each other. If you are a foreign speaker, you're hosed.I wonder if, due to my studies of Old English and historical germanic linguistics, I would have better luck with German.now I want again to try to learn Polish, but I have tried many times in my life and made no progress.I tried to learn German. Didn't work.*looks this up*
why, german?? why can't you be as nice as Old English?? ? ? ?
i blame the HRE.
There's a reason I stick with Romance Languages.
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Good luck. Having said that, my advice is to NEVER touch any more alcohol for the rest of your life. Sorry, but IMHO that phase of your life should be over. The price for drinking alcohol is too high and you deserve to have a good life free from it. Sadly, the craving probably never will be gone.And we have reached Day 100!
My original plan was to go for 741 days to reach my 50th birthday.
Considering how remarkably difficult it's been, and how I still crave gin & tonics at least 2-3 times a week, I think we're looking at more like 1000 days.
If the cravings are still around then, we'll just keep going...
Actually, with a family history of heart disease and a clear indication that the alcohol was helping with at least that, I'd argue that it beats the alternatives in terms of long-term safety -- they're still trying to find the "safe" level in men and it seems to be at least 3 drinks a day.
But we can agree to disagree, and I've got at least a couple more years to ponder it. I'll be talking to my doctor about it next week, and we'll see what she says about the whole thing...
EDIT: My mother's the same way -- she's been on statins for 30-40 years now, and finally started getting the cramps associated with long-term use. She upped her red wine intake (nothing like an 84-year-old, 105-pound little old lady hitting 2-3 glasses a day) and lowered her statin intake and it worked well for her. So while the association between alcohol and cholesterol is questionable at best, we've got two family members who've seen their "bad" cholesterol levels managed by alcohol.
We're genetic freaks. Ibuprofen is an antifebrile for us. And doctors insist that's not possible. But it works WAAAAAAY better then aspirin or acetaminophen for us.
Interesting.
There's a lot of research going on with regard to heart disease, and I am glad to see it. My father had just first heart attack at 49. His father died of complications from a heart attack as well.
an acorn fell out of a tree and hit me on the head once when I was a kid. it hurt.
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I've been perching in trees chucking acorns at people for years.
Every time I play me3, I am amazed at the number of fasa properties mentioned liberally throughout the game. I wonder if that is intentional ribbing, if they are fans who got permission, or if the simply pulled a semi-mechwarrior/whedon.What references did you see? I'm not familiar with too much of FASA's stuff.
it's everywhere dood.
Atlas- one of, if not the most famous 'mech from mechwarrior/battletech.
Banshee- as asari are essentially "space elves" this one was interesting - banshee in shadowrun are "vampire" (hmvii) elves.
Oh man there were a few others but those come to mind the fastest.
It is possible to commit seppuku with a lumberjack's axe? I imagine it is the only suitable penance for a Japanese-Canadian person who commits the dreadful sin of rudeness.
on one of my all time favorite Kung fu movies, a shamed warrior who fought with a long handled Handaxe slit his throat with his axe when he lost a competition against a rival.
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It is possible to commit seppuku with a lumberjack's axe? I imagine it is the only suitable penance for a Japanese-Canadian person who commits the dreadful sin of rudeness.on one of my all time favorite Kung fu movies, a shamed warrior who fought with a long handled Handaxe slit his throat with his axe when he lost a competition against a rival.
It's probably easier than committing Seppuku with a sling.
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Probably about when some of the FAWTLfolk's kids start making profiles and posting.I wonder how many more years I have until there are people on the boards who weren't born yet when I made my first post.It's my birthday... I'm 16... Stay off the streets.Man, you're younger than I was when I started posting here, and I used to be the kid on these boards...
Interesting.
There's a lot of research going on with regard to heart disease, and I am glad to see it. My father had just first heart attack at 49. His father died of complications from a heart attack as well.
There's been longstanding anecdotal evidence, such as the existence of the French, who pretty much exist on butter, cream, and red wine, yet have a remarkably low incidence of heart disease.
The scientific studies are always muddied because of the economic pressure from the booze companies vs. the moral pressure from the teetotalers.
But here's my simple statistic:
From 2002-2014 my triglycerides sat between 105 and 216. If you look at the last 5 years (2010-2014), they were 105, 196, 117, 192, 178. So at least somewhat steady.
I stopped drinking and didn't change my diet.
In 2015 my triglycerides were 359, the highest since I started taking medication for them back in 1996. And not just by a little; the next numbers were 280 (2002), 216 (2003), and 196 (2010).
So either my body's reaction to the lack of alcohol caused a spike, or the alcohol was mitigating my stupid genes.
As I mentioned, the research is fuzzy, but it's pretty much unanimous that 2 drinks or fewer a day is at least harmless, and most would say beneficial.
On the other hand, I'm sure I caused much long-term damage with the amount I was drinking, so I stopped.
BTW, NobodysHome, I just want you to be careful. That is all.
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BTW, NobodysHome, I just want you to be careful. That is all.
Oh, don't think for a second that I don't appreciate it. The support from FaWtL is the *only* thing that's gotten me to 100 days. (Have you noticed how many favorites I get when I post about refraining?)
I've just learned never to say, "Never".
As I've said, I have a couple of years to see how my body plays things out, and if those "urges" are still around, I'm not going to play with fire. I'm being careful... I hope! :-P
EDIT: Oh, and David? I *was* that guy! It's great for the first 8 years or so... then you need to stop for a while! :-P