Does Gunslinger get Fighter feats?


Gunslinger Discussion: Round 1


As the title suggests, does the gunslinger qualify for fighter feats? Seeing how it's a fighter variant class?

And being a ranged class, I would guess all ranged feats are applicable, is this correct?


Javell DeLeon wrote:

As the title suggests, does the gunslinger qualify for fighter feats? Seeing how it's a fighter variant class?

And being a ranged class, I would guess all ranged feats are applicable, is this correct?

I believe they do since its supposed to be a fighter in some form.


Javell DeLeon wrote:

As the title suggests, does the gunslinger qualify for fighter feats? Seeing how it's a fighter variant class?

And being a ranged class, I would guess all ranged feats are applicable, is this correct?

They qualify for combat feats, and they even get bonus combat/grit feats(as per the Gunslinger Table), but they still must meet the prereqs for the feats they're taking, so if you were thinking of Weapon Specialization, It's not happening, since you don't(technically) have a fighter level.


Martiln wrote:
Javell DeLeon wrote:

As the title suggests, does the gunslinger qualify for fighter feats? Seeing how it's a fighter variant class?

And being a ranged class, I would guess all ranged feats are applicable, is this correct?

They qualify for combat feats, and they even get bonus combat/grit feats(as per the Gunslinger Table), but they still must meet the prereqs for the feats they're taking, so if you were thinking of Weapon Specialization, It's not happening, since you don't(technically) have a fighter level.

This is what I was wondering. So any feat that has "must be fighter" or "figter level x" is a no go then?


Javell DeLeon wrote:
This is what I was wondering. So any feat that has "must be fighter" or "figter level x" is a no go then?

Gunslinger is not Fighter just as Sorcerer is not Wizard.

To answer the original question:

Ultimate Combat Playtest wrote:
Bonus Feats: At 4th level, and every four levels thereafter, a gunslinger gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained by normal advancement. These bonus feats must be combat or grit feats.

There is nothing to say "treat the Gunslinger as a Fighter for the purposes of bonus feats", nor should there be.


Sorceror wrote:


Gunslinger is not Fighter just as Sorcerer is not Wizard.

To answer the original question:

Ultimate Combat Playtest wrote:
Bonus Feats: At 4th level, and every four levels thereafter, a gunslinger gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained by normal advancement. These bonus feats must be combat or grit feats.

There is nothing to say "treat the Gunslinger as a Fighter for the purposes of bonus feats", nor should there be.

Okay. I was just asking. I don't recall ever demanding that there should be.


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Doesn't gunslinger say he meets perquisites as though he were a fighter? I doubt they meant that just for prestige classes.

EDIT: Found it in the introduction:

"For the purposes of prerequisites or other effects, each of these alternate classes counts as the class that it is related to."

In other words, YES YOU CAN GET WEAPON SPECIALIZATION ET AL.


Ravingdork wrote:

Doesn't gunslinger say he meets perquisites as though he were a fighter? I doubt they meant that just for prestige classes.

EDIT: Found it in the introduction:

"For the purposes of prerequisites or other effects, each of these alternate classes counts as the class that it is related to."

In other words, YES YOU CAN GET WEAPON SPECIALIZATION ET AL.

Well, I stand corrected. My bad.


Martiln wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:

Doesn't gunslinger say he meets perquisites as though he were a fighter? I doubt they meant that just for prestige classes.

EDIT: Found it in the introduction:

"For the purposes of prerequisites or other effects, each of these alternate classes counts as the class that it is related to."

In other words, YES YOU CAN GET WEAPON SPECIALIZATION ET AL.

Well, I stand corrected. My bad.

I see ... it's not obvious that Gunslinger is a Fighter subtype in the class description itself.


yes but it is a fighter alternative class, and you cant take any levels of fighter if you take it. i would say that they DO qualify for fighter only feats due to they are an alternate fighter class, not their own core class in and of itself. IMO.


Fnipernackle wrote:
yes but it is a fighter alternative class, and you cant take any levels of fighter if you take it. i would say that they DO qualify for fighter only feats due to they are an alternate fighter class, not their own core class in and of itself. IMO.

lol wut? Of course that's the only reason they qualify for fighter feats? How else could you?


Mr Jade wrote:
Fnipernackle wrote:
yes but it is a fighter alternative class, and you cant take any levels of fighter if you take it. i would say that they DO qualify for fighter only feats due to they are an alternate fighter class, not their own core class in and of itself. IMO.
lol wut? Of course that's the only reason they qualify for fighter feats? How else could you?

You be a samurai


Shadow_of_death wrote:
You be a samurai

Do explain.


Mr Jade wrote:
Fnipernackle wrote:
yes but it is a fighter alternative class, and you cant take any levels of fighter if you take it. i would say that they DO qualify for fighter only feats due to they are an alternate fighter class, not their own core class in and of itself. IMO.
lol wut? Of course that's the only reason they qualify for fighter feats? How else could you?

how about this, you tell me how you DONT get fighter only feats when you are a fighter alternate class?


Mr Jade wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
You be a samurai
Do explain.

The samurai qualifies for fighter only feats using his samurai level as his fighter level


Shadow_of_death wrote:
Mr Jade wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
You be a samurai
Do explain.
The samurai qualifies for fighter only feats using his samurai level as his fighter level

For a specific weapon alone.


Mr Jade wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
Mr Jade wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
You be a samurai
Do explain.
The samurai qualifies for fighter only feats using his samurai level as his fighter level
For a specific weapon alone.

who takes weapon focus for more then one weapon anyway?


Okay, so Gunslingers actually do get Weapon Specialization?


Javell DeLeon wrote:
Okay, so Gunslingers actually do get Weapon Specialization?

Yes, as do all fighter classes (or whatever you call them) in the Advanced Player's Guide.


Javell DeLeon wrote:
Okay, so Gunslingers actually do get Weapon Specialization?

Correct. Gunslingers are Fighters. They're just a very radical archetype of the Fighter core class. Ditto with Anti-Paladin/Paladin, Ninja/Rogue, and Samurai/Cavalier.


Mr Jade wrote:
Javell DeLeon wrote:
Okay, so Gunslingers actually do get Weapon Specialization?
Yes, as do all fighter classes (or whatever you call them) in the Advanced Player's Guide.

oh ok. sorry. thought you were disagreeing. my bad.


Shadow_of_death wrote:
who takes weapon focus for more then one weapon anyway?

Dual-Wielders of Bastard Swords/Short-Swords.


Well that's cool then!

I actually wasn't gonna come back to this thread. Thought it was pretty much dead. And an earlier poster said they didn't, so I figured that was that.

So thanks, Ravingdork, Jade, et al..!

(I'm glad I checked it) :)


Mr Jade wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
who takes weapon focus for more then one weapon anyway?
Dual-Wielders of Bastard Swords/Short-Swords.

also people who want to be good with both melee and ranged weapons.


Javell DeLeon wrote:

Well that's cool then!

I actually wasn't gonna come back to this thread. Thought it was pretty much dead. And an earlier poster said they didn't, so I figured that was that.

So thanks, Ravingdork, Jade, et al..!

(I'm glad I checked it) :)

No worries. Comes from having my entire group be rules Nazis. Seriously. If I (the GM) don't have a rule memorized, along with the entire group, we usually end up having to look it up. So when one of us finds a difference twixt PF and 3.5, the fight ends up lasting hours.


Mr Jade wrote:


No worries. Comes from having my entire group be rules Nazis. Seriously. If I (the GM) don't have a rule memorized, along with the entire group, we usually end up having to look it up. So when one of us finds a difference twixt PF and 3.5, the fight ends up lasting hours.

Rolling on this one! That's just some funny stuff right there! :)


Fnipernackle wrote:
Mr Jade wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
who takes weapon focus for more then one weapon anyway?
Dual-Wielders of Bastard Swords/Short-Swords.
also people who want to be good with both melee and ranged weapons.

So you sink 8 feats on it O.o only a true fighter can even afford that


Shadow_of_death wrote:
Fnipernackle wrote:
Mr Jade wrote:
Shadow_of_death wrote:
who takes weapon focus for more then one weapon anyway?
Dual-Wielders of Bastard Swords/Short-Swords.
also people who want to be good with both melee and ranged weapons.
So you sink 8 feats on it O.o only a true fighter can even afford that

you dont have to spend feats to make your ranged weapon just as good, you may just take it to give you that extar edge on attack rolls with it. honestly, i wouldnt take it, since you get weapon training and can get a +1 from that, but i was just stating the you COULD get weapon focus for that purpose.

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