Players Guide?


Carrion Crown

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James Jacobs wrote:


We want our APs to basically be as "free to play" as possible if you're a player character.

my pathfinder group has circumvented this by getting the players to pay for the AP modules. Given how many books the GM should buy, I approve completely (as a player).

Scarab Sages

The 1st book is supposed to come out Approx. Wed, March 23rd. The Players guide should be around then.


I feel like the crazy lady from those old Mervyn commercials. "Openopenopenopen!"


Why's everyone so pumped about the Player's Guide? Maybe it's because I'm a GM, but the Player's Guides never really do it for me - they're sort of just a preview. It's "Haunting of Harrowstone" that I'm itching to get.


The Player's Guide usually includes information on the region, appropriate class and race selections, and a primer on the starting location. As well as some yummy new campaign traits. I know I need it before I can start a recruitment thread going.

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I thought it would be sooner, but it's looking like very early next week.


Erik Mona wrote:

I thought it would be sooner, but it's looking like very early next week.

YAY!!!

greg


Erik Mona wrote:

I thought it would be sooner, but it's looking like very early next week.

Nice :)

So that should mean the AP subscribers will get to look of the players guide next week, the PDF the following week.. I hope!

Very Nice!

Grand Lodge

Ice_Deep wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:

I thought it would be sooner, but it's looking like very early next week.

Nice :)

So that should mean the AP subscribers will get to look of the players guide next week, the PDF the following week.. I hope!

Very Nice!

sweet

Silver Crusade

Erik Mona wrote:

I thought it would be sooner, but it's looking like very early next week.

But I stayed up all night hitting F5....

(admittedly I was working anyway)


Mikaze wrote:

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MOM! BILLY KEEPS PUNCHING MY ARM!

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Yes. Now get out and carry some of the luggage.


Tanner Nielsen wrote:
The Player's Guide usually includes information on the region, appropriate class and race selections, and a primer on the starting location. As well as some yummy new campaign traits. I know I need it before I can start a recruitment thread going.

Ah that makes sense. I'm a bit lax GMing these days, so I suppose I don't think in those terms.


Gorbacz wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Dale McCoy Jr wrote:
Varthanna wrote:
Adventurer's Armory. :P
I liked the Adventurer's Armory.
It's the best selling Companion we've printed to date, and by a wide margin.

That's exactly the problem - it was perhaps the most sought-after Companion book, as everybody loves gear books.

And as great the expectations were, so big was the letdown - errors, poor layout, bad design choices (reprinting stats for CS items without reprinting their descriptions and my pet peeve, level 6 expert NPC that takes two pages in a GEAR book) and finally the fact that the erroneous material got quietly reprinted in APG with fixes included (Brass Knuckles, anyone? From "yet another craptacular monk weapon" in AA to "wow, finally somebody fixed the monks!" in APG).

Meh.

To be fair, all of the companions suffer from the utterly uneeded npc stats blocks, at least imo.

Liberty's Edge

Erik Mona wrote:

I thought it would be sooner, but it's looking like very early next week.

Yes! I can't wait for the traits. Thanks Paizo for great products.

Silver Crusade

Waiting....Waiting....Waiting.....


Not sure how long this'll be up before Vic or someone fixes it, but I *think* you can at least *view* the Player's Guide here.

The Kingmaker AP's picture is actually something for Carrion Crown. Looks like the Player's Guide to me...

Silver Crusade

Generic Villain wrote:

Not sure how long this'll be up before Vic or someone fixes it, but I *think* you can at least *view* the Player's Guide here.

The Kingmaker AP's picture is actually something for Carrion Crown. Looks like the Player's Guide to me...

Okay this is just being mean.

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5


Generic Villain wrote:

Not sure how long this'll be up before Vic or someone fixes it, but I *think* you can at least *view* the Player's Guide here.

The Kingmaker AP's picture is actually something for Carrion Crown. Looks like the Player's Guide to me...

thanks for the tip, the cover looks awesome


Ok, i'm psyched now too. Hope this goes up today, in the next 2 hours would be sweet (before I go back to work) so I can load it onto my color nook and take it with me. I usually have time to kill at work, its where I read most of my Paizo PDFs. :)

Really liking what im reading about this particular AP. This will likely motivate me into GMing a maptools Carrion Crown game.

Sovereign Court

It'll get put on as soon as I go to be no doubt...

Dark Archive

Erik Mona wrote:

I thought it would be sooner, but it's looking like very early next week.

Gives it to us, we wants it!, our precious.....


waiting for the inevitable site crash when everyone tries to DL at once

Liberty's Edge

Was hoping for good news before my midterms tomorrow. Guess I'll keep waiting. ;_;


nampersand wrote:


thanks for the tip, the cover looks awesome

Freakin' sweet. What is that thing? A werewolf with hooves? Monstrous vampire? Half-fiend? Whatever it is, I like.

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Look over here!


Ross Byers wrote:
Look over here!

I finished my other post just in time.


Woo... This looks good. The inclusion of extra races is nice.


Ooooh! Changelings!

Silver Crusade

Thank you paizo. Thank you.. Thank you...

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Al Rigg wrote:
Ooooh! Changelings!

I'm SO delighted with how the changelings came out! I kind of got type cast at some point back in the Dragon days as being something of a weird expert on hags, but how they procreated and survived through their youths never quite scanned. I'm happy we have these guys now as an explanation. That picture of the girl with two different color eyes and the cauldron is a changeling and you can read all about them in the first Carrion Crown adventure, Pathfinder #43. I also snuck one into Rule of Fear. :)

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Oh, and before folks ask, our take on Spring-Heeled Jack is on the cover. You can read more about him is #43 too!


Huzzah! Reading it right now.


Is it going to be pink on the inside? That's the #1 reason why I hated the Gnomes book. Please don't be pink on the inside.

Siggh it's going to beee

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Ice Titan wrote:

Is it going to be pink on the inside? That's the #1 reason why I hated the Gnomes book. Please don't be pink on the inside.

Siggh it's going to beee

Spring-Heeled Jack or changelings? I... guess so? I mean... most things I can think of are pink on the inside... somewhere at least. I've never really thought about it...


Did anyone see the new Magus archetypes briefly mentioned. I have no idea what Hexcrafters and Spellblades are, but they sound cool.


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Magi of the Bladebound, Hexcrafter, Spellblade, and Staff Magus archetypes

Cool.

Liberty's Edge

So how many people are going to have to buy new black ink because Paizo thought the cover would be cool being pretty much all black, and black at the top and bottom of pretty much every page?


F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Ice Titan wrote:

Is it going to be pink on the inside? That's the #1 reason why I hated the Gnomes book. Please don't be pink on the inside.

Siggh it's going to beee

Spring-Heeled Jack or changelings? I... guess so? I mean... most things I can think of are pink on the inside... somewhere at least. I've never really thought about it...

The inside of the book. The background is like raspberry pudding colored.

I think it's nice on the eyes, now, but I was worried it was going to be psychedelic like the Gnomes book's interior was.

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Ice Titan wrote:

The inside of the book. The background is like raspberry pudding colored.

I think it's nice on the eyes, now, but I was worried it was going to be psychedelic like the Gnomes book's interior was.

Oh. Ha! No. Nothing - NOTHING - will ever be as pink as Gnomes was.

Though I have to say, when I'm looking for specific Player Companions, I can always fine Gnomes easiest.

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CapeCodRPGer wrote:
So how many people are going to have to buy new black ink because Paizo thought the cover would be cool being pretty much all black, and black at the top and bottom of pretty much every page?

I know Sarah thought about making the super scary, gothic horror Adventure Path baby blue at one point, but I think she made the right choice with black instead. :P

Scarab Sages

James Jacobs wrote:


We DID print copies for the first five APs, in various ways and methods and combinations with the Player's Companion line. The PDF only way seems to work the best overall at this time.

While I understand your reasoning, it should be said that I was a subscriber to Companion from day one. However, the decision to stop doing the printed players guides as every third companion was why I canceled my subscription and switched to modules.

I just wanted to say that at least some of us miss the printed option and would pay for them. If you ever consider rolling the printed AP player's guides back into the companion line, or offering a print option for purchase, tally me as at least one customer.


underling wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:


We DID print copies for the first five APs, in various ways and methods and combinations with the Player's Companion line. The PDF only way seems to work the best overall at this time.

While I understand your reasoning, it should be said that I was a subscriber to Companion from day one. However, the decision to stop doing the printed players guides as every third companion was why I canceled my subscription and switched to modules.

I just wanted to say that at least some of us miss the printed option and would pay for them. If you ever consider rolling the printed AP player's guides back into the companion line, or offering a print option for purchase, tally me as at least one customer.

You can go to staples or kinkos to get your own copy made. There are even online sites(oh great now I can't find the bookmark) that will bind it and send it to you for about 11 dollars. I will post the link if I find it.

Sovereign Court

Any chance of a post up of the stats for the Changeling? Would be useful so people know what they are getting themselves in for when making a changeling character...


Wait, Harrow points?

Oh great forces of the universe...

Let me find someone to run this AP for me. Let it be such that I must now run it for myself as it has always been. Let this GM be amazing, Lawful Evil, and willing to let me read the Harrow for the group.

Never should the fortuneteller be forced to run the game. Never should the cards be influenced by knowledge of the story. Never should prophecy be confused for unfair prior knowledge.

Liberty's Edge

Yay! Up before my bedtime! Now to miss out on studying for midterms reading the thing a dozen times! =3

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Alexander Kilcoyne wrote:
Any chance of a post up of the stats for the Changeling? Would be useful so people know what they are getting themselves in for when making a changeling character...

Nope! Sorry there. But GMs planning to run this AP will have those stats ready and available for players just as soon as they get Pathfinder #43. So interested parties should just talk to their GMs. A bit of a hint, though: it's a good caster class.

Silver Crusade

OK. Just like crack the taste was too much. Want more.....

Silver Crusade

Just got it. Will be reading thoroughly and will post more later. But have to note:
Races
Orcs

YES.

:D

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Earthbeard wrote:
To be fair, all of the companions suffer from the utterly uneeded npc stats blocks, at least imo.

We removed the Persona section starting with the Sargava companion.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Ice Titan wrote:

Is it going to be pink on the inside? That's the #1 reason why I hated the Gnomes book. Please don't be pink on the inside.

Siggh it's going to beee

Spring-Heeled Jack or changelings? I... guess so? I mean... most things I can think of are pink on the inside... somewhere at least. I've never really thought about it...

If your changeling is still pink inside, you may not have cooked it enough. For safety's sake, you want to hit an internal temp of at least 170 degrees Fahrenheit.

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