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Greetings,
i seem to have missed it, but what are the effects a character suffers if he simply does not sleep?
Greetings,
i seem to have missed it, but what are the effects a character suffers if he simply does not sleep?
I cant quote the page, But i seem to remember missing a nights sleep caused you to be fatigued till you got the rest. Missing multiple nights would make you exhausted.
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So, an oracle with the lame curse wouldn´t need to sleep at all after level 5?
I also looked, but couldn´t find anything about needing 8 hours of rest to refresh their daily spells. There isn´t anything on when and how oracles get their slots back. All it says is "Like other spellcasters, an oracle can cast only a certain number of spells per day of each spell level. "
I assume they need 8 hours rest before this, but is there a faq or something?
So, no-one can steer me in the right direction or give me a page number?
Generally divine spellcasters do not need 8 hour rest to regain their spells. However rules are imprecise on how Oracles refresh their spells as core rules contain part for (1) preparing arcane spells, (2) spontaneous arcane spellcasters and (3) preparing divine spells but no spontaneous divine spellcasters (which were not present here when core was published) and oracle spellcasting feature failed to fill in blanks.
I don't recall any rules that would penalize lack of sleep - only lack of usuall benefits of the sleep: natural healing and recovery of arcane spells. Also sleep resets certain limits (e.g. character can hustle for a single hour between sleep periods, each hour beyond first without sleeping inflicts nonlethal damage, etc.).
I cant quote the page, But i seem to remember missing a nights sleep caused you to be fatigued till you got the rest. Missing multiple nights would make you exhausted.Greetings,
i seem to have missed it, but what are the effects a character suffers if he simply does not sleep?
I remember reading something along these lines as well. I also do not remember where it was though. Sorry.
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Interesting, I would have sworn that you become fatigued after a full day without sleep as well and move to exhaustion from there(we have had divine casters pull the lesser restore trick in the past to avoid needing sleep) but in actually looking for this it appears to be a house rule.
I couldn't find it in the prd, so I was wondering if it was a left over from 3.5 or some splat book but I just was searching for that as well and looking at the question raised on a few other forums and no one seemed to be able to turn up an answer.
I think that fatigued after a day(or if you want to be nicer start fort saves after a day that get progressively harder every hour or two for fatigue) is a fair rule, but it would be the DMs call.
To answer the original posters question, yes I do believe that the oracle would eventually not need sleep with this system as stated as would anyone who becomes immune to fatigue. They are taking a fair penalty to gain something that is a great benefit, its easy to overlook this power as just voiding rarely used spells or the like but this means that if the oracle does sleep they can do so in armor without penalty, can hustle all day, ect. It really can be a useful power.
So, an oracle with the lame curse wouldn´t need to sleep at all after level 5?
I also looked, but couldn´t find anything about needing 8 hours of rest to refresh their daily spells. There isn´t anything on when and how oracles get their slots back. All it says is "Like other spellcasters, an oracle can cast only a certain number of spells per day of each spell level. "I assume they need 8 hours rest before this, but is there a faq or something?
I'm also curious about how oracles recover their spell slots. I'd probably go with a mixed pseudo-clerical-sorcerer explanation (no sleep needed as per a cleric and once per day they need to meditate/commune/whatever for 15 minutes as per a sorcerer).
I hit the FAQ button to add it to the list for further clarification.
I'm having trouble finding anything in the 3.5 SRD as well, though I've seen references to it. I wonder if the penalties were non-OGC, and are thus not on SRD and never made the transition to Pathfinder.
So, no-one can steer me in the right direction or give me a page number?
No page numbers. There's nothing in the books, but that doesn't change the fact that without sleep, you'll go insane and die. Not necessarily in that order.
The rules generally assume that the characters will act normally and rationally concerning basic biological matters.
That's why they don't say what happens when you don't sleep. Or refuse to poop. Or do stuff like that.
Penalties for not sleeping are based on time spent traveling. So as long as you sit around doing nothing, you don't take any penalties for failing to sleep. As soon as you actually start going somewhere or doing something strenuous, use the rules under encumbrance and movement to see how long it takes you to be fatigued or take nonlethal damage.
I remember from 3.5 days - I can't cite a page number (It's in the DMG), but I remember it almost clear as day...
Going without sleep causes a character to be fatigued if he fails a DC 10 Constitution check (+1 or 2 DC for each consecutive day). I can't remember if he ever becomes exhausted.
So in short - yes, a lame Oracle would not need to sleep (as far as I know). Consider it a boon for a bum leg!
Hi Red,
so how did it turn out with this?
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/advice/aPaladinsCodeAndPartyMembers
all the best,
GRU