Challenge: can you create a good homebrew setting from two bad ideas?


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Silver Crusade

Utgardloki wrote:

Card 2, from the right box, has: A monster with a large tail, except that instead of a tail, has kind of a centaur-woman thing going on where her hips grow out of the tail at some point.

Diplocephalus/Amphisbaena from Castlevania!


Kryzbyn wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
I have noted your bad ideas Mikaze, Kryzbyn, Maerimydra, all very bad ideas...thank you. Once again, I will say Smurfs so I turn into a Sm
SO you're gonna combine Lord of the rings and Narnia? KICK ASS!

Well Lewis and Tolkien were good friends ... the major differences in their works come from Lewis being CofE and Tolkien being Catholic.

How about this for a bad idea?

All elves are male. All dwarves are female. They are actually the two dimorphic sexes of the same race, and have to get it together to reproduce!

Edit: OMG I've been smurfed!

Sovereign Court

Post apocalyptic setting à la dark Sun, with :
1 Dinosaur-riding vampire ninjas in moving cities on wheels vs
2 Zombie werevolves pirates on wind - gliders


Stereofm wrote:

Post apocalyptic setting à la dark Sun, with :

1 Dinosaur-riding vampire ninjas in moving cities on wheels vs
2 Zombie werevolves pirates on wind - gliders

Wow, those are two bad, and yet interesting, ideas.

Dinosaur-riding vampire ninjas in moving cities on wheels: their cities move along the desert looking for people to suck blood from...

Zombie werewolves pirates on wind - gliders: they attack caravans the travel across the desert...

Interesting...


Angst-ridden teeny bopper BS.

people-friendly vampires immune to the sun.

Oh, wait...


Maerimydra wrote:

Did you see the sequel ?

Because they really made a sequel, you know...

The sequel was not a great movie, but it was light-years better than the original. It was actually, y'know, watchable.

-The Gneech


Unrestrained corporate power

and

Ineffective, cowardly, & greedy government officials

OH WAIT....


Dabbler wrote:
Well Lewis and Tolkien were good friends ... the major differences in their works come from Lewis being CofE and Tolkien being Catholic.

These guys were both Christians, and their stories pioneered the fantasy genre that eventually also led to tabletop fantasy RPGs.

But, DnD is of the devil!

Irony.


Ranger S. Thompson wrote:

Unrestrained corporate power

and

Ineffective, cowardly, & greedy government officials

OH WAIT....

LOL

Robin Hood

and

Gov't bureaucrasy.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Kryzbyn wrote:
Dabbler wrote:
Well Lewis and Tolkien were good friends ... the major differences in their works come from Lewis being CofE and Tolkien being Catholic.

These guys were both Christians, and their stories pioneered the fantasy genre that eventually also led to tabletop fantasy RPGs.

But, DnD is of the devil!

Irony.

D&D is only evil because it distracts you from your homework.


Let's look at this logically:

J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis created fictional stories that the game D & D was based on.

D & D is of the Devil and it encourages young people to become Satanists.

Therefore, J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were of the Devil and Satanists.

Logic does not lie...


Leafar the Lost wrote:

Let's look at this logically:

J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis created fictional stories that the game D & D was based on.

D & D is of the Devil and it encourages young people to become Satanists.

Therefore, J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were of the Devil and Satanists.

Logic does not lie...

Crap! Do they go to a church in Westboro Kansas?


Leafar the Lost wrote:
Therefore, I ask for the same challenge. Give me two bad ideas, and I will craft a homebrew setting from it. I will pick the "best", bad ideas from you guys...

Too easy. The campaign I currently run is an amalgamation of Fungus and Ragnarok. D=

(Everyone seems to be having a good time with it, so far...)

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Hmm, how about a musical challenge.

Rush's 2112 and Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son?


Matthew Morris wrote:

Hmm, how about a musical challenge.

Rush's 2112 and Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son?

It would have to be two bad ideas, so maybe if you picked albums by New Kids On The Block and/or David Hasselhoff it would be better...

Also, anything by Yanni and John Tesh....


Leafar the Lost wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

Hmm, how about a musical challenge.

Rush's 2112 and Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son?

It would have to be two bad ideas, so maybe if you picked albums by New Kids On The Block and/or David Hasselhoff it would be better...

Also, anything by Yanni and John Tesh....

Eddie Murphy, Don Johnson or Bruce Willis would work too.


Kryzbyn wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

Hmm, how about a musical challenge.

Rush's 2112 and Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son?

It would have to be two bad ideas, so maybe if you picked albums by New Kids On The Block and/or David Hasselhoff it would be better...

Also, anything by Yanni and John Tesh....

Eddie Murphy, Don Johnson or Bruce Willis would work too.

My "bad" dream concert would be John Tesh opening up for Yanni (because Yanni opens for no one) with Kathy Lee Gifford and Sarah Brightman doing the vocals. It would have the higest ratings of all time on PBS, but it would cause the ears of any listening to it to bleed. That would be the End of the World time, and it would have to air on December 21, 2012, the other bad idea...


I have narrowed it down to several bad ideas that stick out at me:

The predominant monstrous forces have names and properties that resemble various cheeses.

Santa Claus is an evil demon from the Infernal planes.

Krull

The Smurfs.

Dinosaur-riding vampire ninjas in moving cities on wheels.

Zombie werevolves pirates on wind - gliders

The other ones that come to mind are the drug addicted skeleton surfers and All of the elder evils are named after STDs.

I am probably going to use more than two, because this stuff is just too "bad" to pass up. However, The Smurfs and Cheese have alot to work with.

When I looked up information on The Smurfs, there was A LOT of background stuff and detail in there that can be rearranged and used.

I also looked up cheese, and I had no idea just how many cheeses there are out there. I mean, there are A LOT of them. This is just the beginning, but now I am beginning to understand Jim Butcher a little better.

Liberty's Edge

Kobold Dominated world

&

Seasame street


How did you guys get the Smurf Icons ?

And could we do a Smurf Ravenloft thing ?


Shizvestus wrote:

How did you guys get the Smurf Icons ?

And could we do a Smurf Ravenloft thing ?

Smurf

That's how you do it.

The Smurfs and Ravenloft is noted.


OK who put the Smurf Icon on my post....

How about the Chipmunks opening up for the Smurfs singalong ?


Ravenloft?


0gre wrote:
StabbittyDoom wrote:

Pop Singers have Superpowers (other singers don't, it's based on popularity or similarity to popular music)

Cult attempting to summon elder evil

Actually I'm pretty sure Terry Pratchett has written a book about that in the Discworld series.

Soul Music!


I am going to look here tomorrow to see what you dudes have submitted, and then I will put it all together. I see The Sm**fs, I see Cheeses, and then maybe dinosaur-riding vampire ninjas in moving cities on wheels commanded by an evil Santa Claus...oh yes, a dream come true...


KenderKin wrote:

Yep waterworld meets Dune......

Just could never figure out that the world is covered in water and there is no water all sand thing........

Also Teletubbies meets Ravenloft, the smiling baby face sun does not work in the world of darkness........

There were others but now to catch tha waze with those anorexic surfer chicks, man!

I can't believe no one has grabbed hold of this one in a serious fashion yet, because it screams potential to me.

Consider an idyllic world with rolling pastures and simple villagers going about their lives. Magic is everywhere, but it's largely outside the hands of the mortal races. There are no sprawling civilizations are grand cities. There is a king or a queen here or there but they're really just small time rulers of scattered feudal societies.

This world is repleate with fey split into the classic Seelie and Unseelie courts, and they're the real masters of the world. Many of them - good and evil alike - take on child-like and cherubic appearances. The battle constantly battle for the hearts of children like classic outsiders battle for mortal souls. A metaphysical sway over young mortal grants enormous power to the fey.

The Seelie court protects the mortal races, both from the Unseelie court and the rampart wilds of the natural world. but they expect tribute. They don't exactly ruin a child's soul or anything, but they take chosen young ones and change them in strange way, infusing them with a fey essence. These children exhibit strange powers as they grow older and have an unusual bond with nature - but they are seldom fully accepted by their former families.

The Unseelie court are just as they appear in classics. They come into towns at night and steal infants and small children from their homes, possibly leaving changlings in their place. They delight in causing suffering and their upper class considers mortal flesh a delicacy.

In this world, superstitions have very real power, with numerous supernatural laws dictating what the fey can and cannot do. Bargains are often struck with them, but in the Seelie and Unseelie courts alike, the wording is usually twisted to give the mortal beneficiary the short end of the stick.


martinaj wrote:

...Consider an idyllic world with rolling pastures and simple villagers going about their lives. Magic is everywhere, but it's largely outside the hands of the mortal races. There are no sprawling civilizations are grand cities. There is a king or a queen here or there but they're really just small time rulers of scattered feudal societies.

This world is repleate with fey split into the classic Seelie and Unseelie courts, and they're the real masters of the world. Many of them - good and evil alike - take on child-like and cherubic appearances. The battle constantly battle for the hearts of children like classic outsiders battle for mortal souls. A metaphysical sway over young mortal grants enormous power to the fey.

The Seelie court protects the mortal races, both from the Unseelie court and the rampart wilds of the natural world. but they expect tribute. They don't exactly ruin a child's soul or anything, but they take chosen young ones and change them in strange way, infusing them with a fey essence. These children exhibit strange powers as they grow older and have an unusual bond with nature - but they are seldom fully accepted by their former families.

The Unseelie court are just as they appear in classics. They come into towns at night and steal infants and small children from their homes, possibly leaving changlings in their place. They delight in causing suffering and their upper class considers mortal flesh a delicacy.

In this world, superstitions have very real power, with numerous supernatural...

Whilst not quite along the lines you describe, I seem to recall that Ravenloft did do seelie/unseelie courts of fey, with Servants of Darkness/Into the Shadow Rift back in 2nd edition AD&D...


They did, but the concept's been around loooong before Ravenloft.


martinaj wrote:
They did, but the concept's been around loooong before Ravenloft.

The Teletubbies ARE evil...pure evil...I should include them too...good points there...

Smurf!


Matthew Morris wrote:

Hmm, how about a musical challenge.

Rush's 2112 and Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son?

Rush blows my soul.

Silver Crusade

martinaj wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

Hmm, how about a musical challenge.

Rush's 2112 and Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son?

Rush blows my soul.

Mean, Mean Pride.


The Homebrew World will be based on the following "bad" ideas:
The Sm**fs, Cheeses, The Teletubbies, Barnie the Dinosaur (pure evil) 80's Heavy Metal Bands (example Iron Maiden & Judas Priest), Dinosaur-riding vampire ninjas in moving cities on wheels, evil Santa Claus, drug addicted skeletons dressed as surfers, Krull, Waterworld, Dune (the movie) and evil elders named after various STD's.

The challenge: could someone make a good homebrew world based from two bad ideas? The answer is a clear NO, but I can make one based off 11-12 really bad ideas. Now I need to look up a list of STD's and I will go from there...

Dark Archive

Leafar the Lost wrote:
The predominant monstrous forces have names and properties that resemble various cheeses.

That's been done. In fact it was one of 2 bad ideas used to create a setting. The other idea was Biker Mice... from Mars.


the David wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
The predominant monstrous forces have names and properties that resemble various cheeses.
That's been done. In fact it was one of 2 bad ideas used to create a setting. The other idea was Biker Mice... from Mars.

I will scratch the various cheeses...and replace it with various types of nuts.


Leafar the Lost wrote:

The Homebrew World will be based on the following "bad" ideas:

The Sm**fs, Cheeses, The Teletubbies, Barnie the Dinosaur (pure evil) 80's Heavy Metal Bands (example Iron Maiden & Judas Priest), Dinosaur-riding vampire ninjas in moving cities on wheels, evil Santa Claus, drug addicted skeletons dressed as surfers, Krull, Waterworld, Dune (the movie) and evil elders named after various STD's.

The challenge: could someone make a good homebrew world based from two bad ideas? The answer is a clear NO, but I can make one based off 11-12 really bad ideas. Now I need to look up a list of STD's and I will go from there...

So what is it that made you pick these particular ideas for your world?

And how do you see them working together to create something viable?

Liberty's Edge

the David wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
The predominant monstrous forces have names and properties that resemble various cheeses.
That's been done. In fact it was one of 2 bad ideas used to create a setting. The other idea was Biker Mice... from Mars.

Holy crap, how could I forget that show?!

To be fair it was like 3 people, not races (which is what I was implying). An entire race of limbegites that smell so bad that most other races vomit when in close proximity is very different than a fat dude that has the name Limburger as a joke.


KenderKin wrote:

Yep waterworld meets Dune......

Just could never figure out that the world is covered in water and there is no water all sand thing........

Also Teletubbies meets Ravenloft, the smiling baby face sun does not work in the world of darkness........

There were others but now to catch tha waze with those anorexic surfer chicks, man!

Waterworld + Dune = Pirates of Dark Water


Utgardloki wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:

The Homebrew World will be based on the following "bad" ideas:

The Sm**fs, Cheeses, The Teletubbies, Barnie the Dinosaur (pure evil) 80's Heavy Metal Bands (example Iron Maiden & Judas Priest), Dinosaur-riding vampire ninjas in moving cities on wheels, evil Santa Claus, drug addicted skeletons dressed as surfers, Krull, Waterworld, Dune (the movie) and evil elders named after various STD's.

The challenge: could someone make a good homebrew world based from two bad ideas? The answer is a clear NO, but I can make one based off 11-12 really bad ideas. Now I need to look up a list of STD's and I will go from there...

So what is it that made you pick these particular ideas for your world?

And how do you see them working together to create something viable?

"So what is it that made you pick these particular ideas for your world?" I DON'T KNOW...

"And how do you see them working together to create something viable?" I DON'T SEE THEM WORKING TOGETHER. IN FACT, I AM COUNTING ON IT!!!!


H.R.Punstuf and Barney


H.R. Pufnstuf and Barney


Shizvestus wrote:
H.R. Pufnstuf and Barney

Oh yes, I remember H.R. Pufnstuf...Barney will be one of the Demon Undelords of the 666 Hells, because he likes to torment children with his music.


Lord of the Rings
&
The Matrix

(Agent Elrond Smith: "I see that you have aquired a ring Mr. Bagginson...")

and Donald Trump as Sauron.


Type2Demon wrote:

Lord of the Rings

&
The Matrix

(Agent Elrond Smith: "I see that you have aquired a ring Mr. Bagginson...")

and Donald Trump as Sauron.

"You have two lives - Frodo Baggins - the ringbearer, and Mr. Underhill - an unobtrusive visitor to Bree. One of these lives has a future. The other does not. Now, do you want the red pill or the blue pill?"


Mikaze wrote:


The planet passes through Heaven, Hell, Elysium, and the Abyss with the seasons.

thanks for that inspiriration but i'll swap elysium and heaven with gehenna (abbadon) and the first world and just use on an Island the size of GB labelled the helllands


hellharlequin wrote:
... and just use on an Island the size of GB labelled the helllands

Ah yes, the Thatcher years ...


Dabbler wrote:
hellharlequin wrote:
... and just use on an Island the size of GB labelled the helllands
Ah yes, the Thatcher years ...

The Iron Lady was a good PM. We need someone like her to come back to take control of GB again.


ulgulanoth wrote:
marmite fizzy drink and drug-addicted skeletons in surfer outfits

I am in the USA, and I had no idea what a "marmite fizzy drink" was. Now that I know, I have decided that you will be my friend who challenged me...


Leafar the Lost wrote:
Dabbler wrote:
hellharlequin wrote:
... and just use on an Island the size of GB labelled the helllands
Ah yes, the Thatcher years ...
The Iron Lady was a good PM. We need someone like her to come back to take control of GB again.

Two words: pole tax.


Dabbler wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
Dabbler wrote:
hellharlequin wrote:
... and just use on an Island the size of GB labelled the helllands
Ah yes, the Thatcher years ...
The Iron Lady was a good PM. We need someone like her to come back to take control of GB again.
Two words: pole tax.

Are you refering to a tax on pole dancing? If so, then I agree with that. Most of them are not paying taxes on their tips.


Leafar the Lost wrote:
Dabbler wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
Dabbler wrote:
hellharlequin wrote:
... and just use on an Island the size of GB labelled the helllands
Ah yes, the Thatcher years ...
The Iron Lady was a good PM. We need someone like her to come back to take control of GB again.
Two words: pole tax.
Are you refering to a tax on pole dancing? If so, then I agree with that. Most of them are not paying taxes on their tips.

LOL, no the pole tax was Margaret Thatcher's downfall - she thought it was a really great idea for local taxation: replace the existing rates system which was in effect a local tax based on how much your house was worth, to a flat tax. Her idea of flat was everybody pays the same amount, not everybody pays the same proportion, though. It meant that if you were struggling in a household in a small house/apartment with several adults only one or two of whom were working (as PM she presided over mass unemployment, too) at minimum wage (frozen under her government) you would have to pay four or five times as much as someone living alone in a twenty-room mansion on a six-figure salary. It was a 'tax the poor to give to the rich' tax, and it went down like a lead balloon.

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