Questions about a Ninja build (Really a question about two feats)


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Sczarni

I am debating building Ninja for PFS.

Goal: Stop actions when ever possible, use my position to help allies maximize AoOs rather than actually enter combat myself.

1) Bewildering Koan

Spoiler:
As a swift action, spend 1 point from your ki pool and make a Bluff check by asking a creature one of the impossible questions you ponder when meditating.

If the creature fails its check, you choose whether it loses its next action or you gain a +2 bonus on all damage rolls you make against that creature for 1 round.

Question: The type of check is not specified, but typically Bluff checks are opposed by Sense Motive. Has this been clarified?

2) Antagonize

Spoiler:
Benefit: You can make Diplomacy and Intimidate checks to make creatures respond to you with hostility. No matter which skill you use, antagonizing a creature takes a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity, and has a DC equal to 10 + the target’s Hit Dice + the target’s Wisdom modifier. You cannot make this check against a creature that does not understand you or has an Intelligence score of 3 or lower. Before you make these checks, you may make a Sense Motive check (DC 20) as a swift action to gain an insight bonus on these Diplomacy or Intimidate checks equal to your Charisma bonus until the end of your next turn. The benefits you gain for this check depend on the skill you use. This is a mind-affecting effect.

Diplomacy: You fluster your enemy. For the next minute, the target takes a –2 penalty on all attacks rolls made against creatures other than you and has a 10% spell failure chance on all spells that do not target you or that have you within their area of effect.

Intimidate: The creature flies into a rage. On its next turn, the target must attempt to make a melee attack against you, make a ranged attack against you, target you with a spell, or include you in the area of a spell. The effect ends if the creature is prevented from attacking you or attempting to do so would harm it (for example, if you are on the other side of a chasm or a wall of fire). If it cannot attack you on its turn, you may make the check again as an immediate action to extend the effect for 1 round (but cannot extend it thereafter). The effect ends as soon as the creature attacks you. Once you have targeted a creature with this ability, you cannot target it again for 1 day.

Question 1: Is "The creature flies into a rage." flavor text? I assume so because "On its next turn, the target must attempt to make a melee attack against you, make a ranged attack against you, target you with a spell, or include you in the area of a spell." Then again, there is a difference between attempt and success.

Question 2: Would potential AoOs constitute harm per "The effect ends if the creature is prevented from attacking you or attempting to do so would harm it."

Scarab Sages

Akinra wrote:

I am debating building Ninja for PFS.

Goal: Stop actions when ever possible, use my position to help allies maximize AoOs rather than actually enter combat myself.

1) Bewildering Koan
** spoiler omitted **

Question: The type of check is not specified, but typically Bluff checks are opposed by Sense Motive. Has this been clarified?

2) Antagonize
** spoiler omitted **...

On your first question, Bluff checks do typically go against Sense Motive. On the antagonize questions, it is flavor text since the target has to make some kind of attack against you. With the potential AoO, I would have to say it would cause harm to the target of the antagonize. Please do not take my answers as the correct interpretation as I am still a bit new to this. I look forward to finding out if this assessment is correct.

Sczarni

right, so this got moved, no idea why. Was in PFS discussion because I wanted PFS Specific rulings on these two. General thoughts now that it has been bumped?


it is not a pfs question, it is a rules question. even though you want clarification for pfs, questions that pertain to game rules are always moved.

although why it was moved to advice forum instead of rules is anyone's guess.

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