Using Eando Kline's Journal?!


Serpent's Skull

Liberty's Edge

I plan to start Serpentskull in january.
My players LOVE handouts and little Golarion stories.
I now wonder, if it would be a good idea, to make a small journal with all of Eando Klines Journal Entries from Pathfinder #2 to #18, which my players pc can find somehwere in Saventh-Yi.
Do I spoil anything?! I haven't had the time to read the AP-Journals, and will have no time to fully read all 17 journal entries of those APs until january.
So my question here - has anyone thought of this yet, would it work, do I spoil something in doing so?!
I think its a great way for pcs to "learn" stuff about Golarion.


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The journals near the end reveal a city of serpent-folk/Yuan-ti deep underground. Given the AP's name of Serpent's Skull and that the end part of the AP features an underground city of serpent folk, I would consider that a big potential "spoiler".

I would suggest that you could give out the journals up to point just before Eando finds the serpent folk city. Keep the fact the journal is incomplete as a mystery as well as Eando's fate of breaking ranks with the Pathfinders. That will nicely act as lead in to the PCs eventually running into Eando. Then you can have Eando provide the final information as the missing journal and can explain that Elando has been removing that section from any journals he has come across (including the PCs copy) as part of his campaign to keep the serpent folk information from coming to public attention (read the last story of Eando's story and you will see why him trying to keep the serpent folk info suppressed would make perfect sense for his character).


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Yup, I just realized we were in serpent land... ok so I rushed in when I saw Eando... ;)

Liberty's Edge

Ok,

Spoiler:
I've read the Journal in AP#16, where Eando is in the City of the Serpentfolk below Saventh-Yhi. I now think of just making Eando a very close friend to one of the pcs (maybe all), who happened to come back to Absalom, wracked, and, after visiting the AbsalomLodge, just found time to slip this part of the journal into the pc's pocket, whispering:"No time, search me in the south. Start in Eleder. EVERYTHING depends on it!" Than he vanishes, without any further words!" He's on the run from Pahtfinder-Thugs. The journal ends, when Belzig appears.

The pc now knows something about soon to be awakened Serpentmen, deep below earth, and that he has to find his friend, to help him.
On board, he might (not necesarrily) share this journal-entry with his fellow adventurers and Yarzoth might see it as well. The pc would jump immediately when they discover the temple on the Smuggler's Shiv, and Yarzoth now knows, that human-scum is about to spoil anthing she's up to!
This way, they might have a good reason to go into the jungles anyway.


Any thoughts on this?!


Its a good lead it and gets the attention quickly :)


Dryder,

Just a note of caution.

Spoiler:
Be mindful of the early Serpentfolk spoiler if you have a Ranger in the party. Over the course of the campaign a Ranger can rack up some hefty Favored Enemy bonuses. There's nothing wrong with that, and there's nothing wrong with choosing Serpent People as a favored enemy. However having seen a Pathfinder Ranger in action at high levels, I decided that you can't choose a race as a favored enemy if you don't know they exist. Taking the Adventure Path at face value, they're unaware of the SP's existence, and I'm opting not to second guess that.

After the revelation at the end of Chapter One happens, then I will not mind.

But for that reason, I'm not giving them any advance spoilers about the Serpentmen whatsoever.

Now you may not mind this.. which is also fine.

Liberty's Edge

Thanx, Watcher!
As the PCs dont know anything more than that Serpentpeople exist, they have no chance of takong them as favoured enemy, cause they've never seem them in action. Thats a house rule of mine.
I request a reasonable story from my rangers why they've chosen a favoured enemy,
Thanx for the advice!


Dryder wrote:
I've read the Journal in AP#16, where Eando is in the City of the Serpentfolk below Saventh-Yhi.

Are you sure it's the city beneath Saventh-Yhi (called Ilmurea, btw)? Considering that Eando entered the Darklands all the way up north in Belkzen, I'm not sure he would have been able to make that journey. There's actually an old Serpentfolk city much closer to Belkzen called Sverenagati.

It may not matter one way or another. Just something to consider.

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Generic Villain wrote:
Dryder wrote:
I've read the Journal in AP#16, where Eando is in the City of the Serpentfolk below Saventh-Yhi.

Are you sure it's the city beneath Saventh-Yhi (called Ilmurea, btw)? Considering that Eando entered the Darklands all the way up north in Belkzen, I'm not sure he would have been able to make that journey. There's actually an old Serpentfolk city much closer to Belkzen called Sverenagati.

I was wondering about this too...

Liberty's Edge

Hm, if that's the case, I have to think about it.
But anyway, I like the idea of the setup/hook.
I could change the Belkzen entry in the journal, and maybe Eando found something out (from a fellow Pathfinder), which made him travel to the Mwangi Expanse, to check if there's another city...
But thanx or pointing this out - saved me a lot of trouble!


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

Hey, it just hit me that, if you use this hook, the adventure could be about Finding Eando.

I'm just sayin'

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Rick wrote:
Hey, it just hit me that, if you use this hook, the adventure could be about Finding Eando.

SPOILERS!!!!!

In our game, the mentor of one of the party members is the father of the Pathfinder, Juliver. Juliver was one of Eando's traveling companions (a half-elf, I believe), who the PCs recue in City of Seven Spears. Rob dropped her name on the boards a few months ago in this post, though we don't know much else about her.

The PC mentioned above is interested in finding/rescuing Juliver.

Sovereign Court

Generic Villain wrote:
Dryder wrote:
I've read the Journal in AP#16, where Eando is in the City of the Serpentfolk below Saventh-Yhi.

Are you sure it's the city beneath Saventh-Yhi (called Ilmurea, btw)? Considering that Eando entered the Darklands all the way up north in Belkzen, I'm not sure he would have been able to make that journey. There's actually an old Serpentfolk city much closer to Belkzen called Sverenagati.

It may not matter one way or another. Just something to consider.

The serpentfolk city that Eando Kline found in PF #16 is *not* Ilmurea or Sverenegati. That city is as yet unnamed, and is indeed under Belkzen. Sverenagati is under Varisia, and Ilmurea is under Saventh-Yhi in the Mwangi Expanse.

Spoiler:
The PCs will eventually find (and rescue) both Eando and his journal in the AP, but as written, the AP assumes that the PCs know nothing about Eando, the serpentfolk, or Ilmurea. These are all things they find out as they go along. That said, you can use whatever hooks you want in your own campaign, of course! Just be aware that you might have to change things later on in the AP if you do. :)


Watcher wrote:

Dryder,

Just a note of caution.

** spoiler omitted **

umm they fight one in the first adventure and they are considered monstrous humanoids


Pendagast wrote:
Watcher wrote:

Dryder,

Just a note of caution.

** spoiler omitted **

umm they fight one in the first adventure and they are considered monstrous humanoids

Sorry for the delay, I just saw this.

I think you missed the point. :)

The boards ate my original reply, but your remark doesn't diminish what I said to Dryder. One can take a favored enemy at 1st level (and then again at 5th, 10th, and so on). However if it is a fairly exotic and little known enemy, then why would you choose that at character creation? Especially since the reveal you mention happens at the end of the adventure, right about when the party is 3rd to 4th level.

Unless, of course, you were anticipating events and munchkinizing? And Dryder was concerned about spoilers. Hopefully that makes more sense.

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