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Ok, I'm bored. So let's rank the iconics based on attractiveness. Do just the females, just the males, both in two lists, or one master list for both sexes...whatever floats your boat.
I'll do the girls:
1 Feiya
2 Amiri
3 Lini
4 Seoni
5 Alahazra
6 Merisel
7 Keyra
8 Imrijka
9 Seela
PS: The Magus needs to be a half-elf. They don't have a representative yet.
PS: The Magus needs to be a half-elf. They don't have a representative yet.
In the girls, I don't know. But on the male side, there's Seltyel.
I actually want to see a female dwarf iconic. You just never see one of those around...
It makes you wonder if female dwarves really exist.
1 Feiya
2 Amiri
3 Lini
4 Seoni
5 Alahazra
6 Merisel
7 Keyra
8 Imrijka
9 Seela
See now, I have a problem. I don't know all their names to match with their pictures. These are the ones I think I know:
Human Witch - Feiya
Human Barbarian - Amiri
Gnome Druid - Lini
Human Sorcerer - Seoni
Human Oracle - Alahazra
Elf Rogue - Merisel
Half-Orc Inquisitor - Imrijka
I don't know these two at all, though I do know they are the Human Cleric and the Human Paladin:
Keyra
Seela
It seems to me that we have too many humans here (6 out of 9) when you have 7 races to illustrate. It would have been nice to have an iconic male and an iconic female of each race for a total of 14. After all, we have 11 core class iconics, 1 prestige class iconic, and 6 new base class iconics with another 1 on the way for a total of 19 iconics. One would think we could have gotten a male and female of each race somewhere along the way. Oh well. What's done is done.
Ezren is the height of sexy style.
They're all over the place. But they look exactly like male dwarves to non-dwarves...and most dwarves as well.I actually want to see a female dwarf iconic. You just never see one of those around...
It makes you wonder if female dwarves really exist.
I've been hearing that since 1982 and it just isn't cool anymore. ;)
I want to see a real female dwarf sans beard depicted in art as an iconic. I have seen them in a couple of WotC books, but I would like it if one was done up as an iconic; and an appealing or attractive one at that.
I don't know if they could pull it off, but it might even be nice if the artist tried to give her some sex appeal while they were at it. Maybe then we could figure out WHY dwarves propagate because I don't understand it as it stands right now. Long hair on the wrong part of the head, an attractive paramour does not make. ;)
Which race/class iconic is Ezren?
Ezren is the wizard. And female dwarves are one of the few things I think 4e did right...
As for the list above, I'd move Lini and Merisiel farther down, and Seela and Imrijka farther up.
My personal ranking for the female iconics is:
1) Seoni
2) Feiya AND Alahazra
3) Amiri
4) Merisiel
5) Kyra AND Lini
6) Seela
7) Imrijka (or whatever it is spelled :D )
Yes, I have a lot of ex aequo in my rankings.
Now, if Feiya had possessed red hair... well, that would have led to a different top position :D
I'll rank the girls by attractiveness, too, since I haven't done that in this thread yet (obviously, I have done my research now, since I can call most of them by name now):
1 Seoni, Human Sorcerer (Any icon with such a hot, real-life woman modeling her gets to be number 1 any day. If I considered only the artwork - I just can't ignore Veronic Fay/Jenny Poussin's modeling work as Seoni in order to do that, though - Seoni would rank number 2 and Feiya would advance to number 1.)
2 Feiya, Human Witch (Very hot; just my type - if my type were white-haired witches. But, she has the attitude and physique to make her my type, whether I want her to be or not)
3 Alahazra, Human Oracle (Very exotic and sensuous-looking with an attitude to overcome any disability)
4 Merisel, Elf Rogue (I don't normally go for pale, rail-thin women, but she can make it work for her well.)
5 Kyra, Human Cleric (Something really exotic in those eyes that makes you wonder what its like under the chainmail)
6 Amiri, Human Barbarian (An amazon-like, savage woman always wins points enough to place well)
7 Seelah, Human Paladin (Seems kind of plain to me, but she could probably make me regret ranking her here if she posed in something besides that plate armor)
8 Imrijka, Half-Orc Inquisitor (If we toned back the sickly green color of her skin and filed down those chompers I could really go for her, but as it is she scares me.)
9 Lini, Gnome Druid (If I ranked her any higher I would feel like someone who should be arrested.)
Since I don't think I am qualified to rate how attractive the males are, I will rate them on how I like the style of their "look", or how cool I think they look (but, I only know Ezren's name at the moment):
1 Seltyiel, Half-Elf Eldritch Knight
2 Damiel, Elf Alchemist (I know he is schizophrenic nerd, but he is a cool-looking, schizophrenic nerd.)
3 Sajan, Human Monk (Even I have to admit the guys has the abs to make his outfit work for him.)
4 Harsk, Dwarf Ranger (His look is too intimidating to rank any lower.)
5 Ezren, Human Wizard (Stylish dresser)
6 Alain, Human Cavalier (Also stylish, if too arrogant)
7 Valeros, Human Fighter (A little plain compared to the others)
8 Name Unknown, Gnome Summoner (Points for sporting his own, unique style, but it looks to goofy to qualify as cool)
9 Lem, Halfling Bard (He looks like a Medieval band-camp reject to me.)
Females
1) Alahazra (Oracle)
2) Feiya (Witch)
3) Merisiel (Rogue)
4) Amiri (Barbarian)
5) Seoni (Sorcerer)
6) Lini (Druid)
7) Seelah (Paladin)
8) Kyra (Cleric)
9) Imrijka (Inquisitor)
Yes, I stuck Seoni in the middle, she just seems to be trying too hard for my tastes. Let the nerd rage begin. :)
I really do like Alahazra and Feiya, they both fit their concepts so well, and the art is outstanding. Merisiel has that 'otherworldly' vibe going, and Amiri is just so darn cute (honestly, the artist is really gifted to pull of cute and muscled at the same time). Lini's also got the 'cute' thing going, but that 3 foot tall thing is a point against her. Seelah and Kyra are just so stern looking, and their equipment is not designed nor intended to be sexual, so that hurts them too. I love the artwork for Imrijka, and I think she's a perfect inquisitor iconic, but she's just a little to bestial for me.
I'm secure enough in my heterosexuality that I feel comfortable listing the male iconics in order of handsomeness, I'm not exactly the best person to comment on hotness though. :)
1) Alain (Cavalier)
2) Valeros (Fighter)
3) Damiel (Alchemist)
4) Sajan (Monk)
5) Ezren (Wizard)
6) Seltyiel (Eldritch Knight)
7) Harsk (Ranger)
8) Lem (Bard)
9) Balazar (Summoner)
Valeros would have been #1 prior to the APG, but Alain has a more clean-cut look to him, while still retaining the 'dangerous slightly bad boy' vibe. Damiel also pulls off that daring rake look and attitude. Sajan is too serious, but still has youth and a fit body on his side. Ezren of course has the 'distinguished gentleman' thing going for him, kind of like Harrison Ford. Seltyiel has the 'Really Bad Dangerous Boy' vibe going for him, plus his only remaining competition is a rank looking dwarf, a short hairy footed jokester, and a really gnarly looking hairy faced gnome.
Alain has a more clean-cut look to him, while still retaining the 'dangerous slightly bad boy' vibe.Have you read his "Meet the Iconics" ? It's more of a 'dangerous extremely repugnant jerkass who would just as soon send you to your death as look at you' vibe.
I was not aware the discussion was 'who's got the best personality', but 'who's got the best looks'.
And no, I didn't. :) Makes it easier to be objective when judging purely on looks. :)
Imrijka would be 1000% hotter if her skin wasn't bird poop green.
Imrijka would be 1000% hotter if her skin wasn't bird poop green.
I don't mind the green, then again, I liked the green women on Star Trek (both vulcans and the animal slave women).
However, the tusks on the other hand are a bit much for me.
Ezren is the height of sexy style.
That's because he looks like Sean Connery!
Imrijka would be 1000% hotter if her skin wasn't bird poop green.I don't mind the green, then again, I liked the green women on Star Trek (both vulcans and the animal slave women).
However, the tusks on the other hand are a bit much for me.
It's the shade of green I don't like. I could handle a darker green just fine.
It's the shade of green I don't like. I could handle a darker green just fine.Imrijka would be 1000% hotter if her skin wasn't bird poop green.I don't mind the green, then again, I liked the green women on Star Trek (both vulcans and the animal slave women).
However, the tusks on the other hand are a bit much for me.
I feel the same way about some of the aliens in Star Wars artwork. The girls with the long brain tentacles on their heads (can't remember the species). Grey and blue and green are all fine, but the red ones make me think more of splotchy feverish skin.
Vendor - Fantasiapelit Tampere
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Well...
1.Merisiel. She is elf, and I like elfs. She is beautiful and exotic-looking eyes just-ah. Great job.
2. Seoni, no explanations needed.
3. Imrijka. Paizo, you did a great job on her. Tusks..~<3
4.Kyra
5.Feiya
6.Amiri
7.Alahzra
8.Seelah
9.Lini
10.....The SHADOWDANCER-GIRL!
I actually want to see a female dwarf iconic. You just never see one of those around...
It makes you wonder if female dwarves really exist.
My wife has a female dwarf warrior in WoW, but warriors just aren't that fun to level up, so she doesn't get played much. Even in WoW, female dwarves are rare.
The only Female Dwarf illustrated so far is in the Seekers of Secrets book..and she is definetly female..and beardless..so lets not have any of this 'They look just like male dwarves felgercarb shall we?
For me
Females
1) Alahazra (Oracle)
2) Feiya (Witch)
3) Merisiel (Rogue)
4) Seelah (Paladin)
5) Kyra (Cleric)
6) Amiri (Barbarian)
7) Seoni (Sorcerer)
8) Lini (Druid)
9) Imrijka (Inquisitor)
BTW: Speaking of iconics and attractiveness, anyone else catch the picture of Amiri in the APG where the spiders are crawling on her? It looks like her from the neck down, but the face has this bizzarro alternate Amiri vibe. Not close to her appearance (especially since I can't see her screaming over a few spiders like a scared schoolgirl).
Honestly I only recognized her by her outfit. Maybe it's supposed to be her weaker wussier older sister?
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BTW: Speaking of iconics and attractiveness, anyone else catch the picture of Amiri in the APG where the spiders are crawling on her? It looks like her from the neck down, but the face has this bizzarro alternate Amiri vibe. Not close to her appearance (especially since I can't see her screaming over a few spiders like a scared schoolgirl).
Honestly I only recognized her by her outfit. Maybe it's supposed to be her weaker wussier older sister?
What page?
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Females
1) Feiya (Witch)
2) Seoni (Sorcerer)
3) Amiri (Barbarian)
4) Alahazra (Oracle)
5) Merisiel (Rogue)
6) Lini (Druid)
7) Kyra (Cleric)
8) Seelah (Paladin)
9) Imrijka (Inquisitor)
Males
1) Alain (Cavalier)
2) Valeros (Fighter)
3) Damiel (Alchemist)
4) Ezren (Wizard)
5) Sajan (Monk)
6) Seltyiel (Eldritch Knight)
7) Harsk (Ranger)
8) Lem (Bard)
9) Balazar (Summoner)
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What page?BTW: Speaking of iconics and attractiveness, anyone else catch the picture of Amiri in the APG where the spiders are crawling on her? It looks like her from the neck down, but the face has this bizzarro alternate Amiri vibe. Not close to her appearance (especially since I can't see her screaming over a few spiders like a scared schoolgirl).
Honestly I only recognized her by her outfit. Maybe it's supposed to be her weaker wussier older sister?
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235What page?BTW: Speaking of iconics and attractiveness, anyone else catch the picture of Amiri in the APG where the spiders are crawling on her? It looks like her from the neck down, but the face has this bizzarro alternate Amiri vibe. Not close to her appearance (especially since I can't see her screaming over a few spiders like a scared schoolgirl).
Honestly I only recognized her by her outfit. Maybe it's supposed to be her weaker wussier older sister?
Yeah. Thats a weird pic indeed.
Females
1) Merisiel (Elf Rogue)
2) Seoni (Varisian Sorceress)
3) Feiya (Witch)
4) Amiri (Human Barbarian)
5) Alahazra (Human Oracle)
6) Kyra (Human Cleric)
7) Lini (Gnome Druidess)
8) Seelah (Human Paladin)
9) Imrijka (Half-orc Inquisitor)
Males
1) Seltyiel (Half-elf Eldritch Knight)
2) Harsk (Dwarf Ranger)
3) Ezren (Human Wizard)
4) Alain (Human Cavalier)
5) Sajan (Human Monk)
6) Valeros (Human Fighter)
7) Damiel (Elf Alchemist)
8) Lem (Halfling Bard)
9) Balazar (Gnome Summoner)
i hope my paizonian membership isn't revoked for needing to ask this, but can someone post a link to a gallery of pictures of the iconics?
I would also like a gallery link, if anyone has one.
Wonderful, thank you.
For me
here are my top 5 females
1. The innocent harmless looking aasimaar cleric depicted in the bestiary
2. merisiel
3. amiri
4. seoni
5. feina (Witch?)
The Dwarven Ranger tops all... even the females.
Can we put Jodi as Amiri on this list somewhere?
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Here's my list:
Females
1) Imrijka (Inquisitor)
2) Amiri (Barbarian)
3) Seoni (Sorcerer)
4) Feiya (Witch)
5) Alahazra (Oracle)
6) Lini (Druid)
7) Kyra (Cleric)
8) Merisiel (Rogue)
9) Seelah (Paladin)
Oh, Imrijka, how I love you...
Males
1) Seltyiel (Eldritch Knight)
2) Alain (Cavalier)
3) Valeros (Fighter)
4) Ezren (Wizard)
5) Damiel (Alchemist)
6) Sajan (Monk)
7) Lem (Bard)
8) Harsk (Ranger)
9) Balazar (Summoner)
And Seltyiel is such a pretty boy, I don't know how he wasn't at the top of anyone else's list. XD
Jeremy Puckett
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They're all over the place. But they look exactly like male dwarves to non-dwarves...and most dwarves as well.I actually want to see a female dwarf iconic. You just never see one of those around...
It makes you wonder if female dwarves really exist.
I've been hearing that since 1982 and it just isn't cool anymore. ;)
Rest easy. The Paizo folks have said their female dwarves absolutely don't grow beards.
If you're looking for female dwarf art, there's the badass lady towards the back of the Seekers of Secrets book, and this cheerful lady from Gamemastery Guide.
I feel the same way about some of the aliens in Star Wars artwork. The girls with the long brain tentacles on their heads (can't remember the species).
Twi'leks.
I take the Skittles approach. I appreciate the entire rainbow, so to speak.
They all look like cartoons to me. Now Little Annie Fannie... there was a dame.
Rest easy. The Paizo folks have said their female dwarves absolutely don't grow beards.If you're looking for female dwarf art, there's the badass lady towards the back of the Seekers of Secrets book, and this cheerful lady from Gamemastery Guide.
I feel the same way about some of the aliens in Star Wars artwork. The girls with the long brain tentacles on their heads (can't remember the species).Twi'leks.
I take the Skittles approach. I appreciate the entire rainbow, so to speak.
Yeah, Twi'leks. I was having a frozen brain day.
As to the art work above, I thought that was a chubby gnome girl or chubby halfling girl. She doesn't really strike me as a dwarf.
1. The innocent harmless looking aasimaar cleric depicted in the bestiary
Dem hips.
Hey, if the Bestiary can be included in the Iconics Attractiveness, then I have to put a REAL n°1 on my previous list:
REAL n°1) Medusa
Sorry but she is simply... incredible :D !!! Even more than the other gals, for me !!!