Best Class For A Pimp


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Dark Archive

I am stating up an NPC pimp and I already know that he will have levels in expert, but I want him to have some caster levels as well. Which do you think is best, bard, enchanter, or illusionist?


Bard


Bard=Pimp.


Going with Bard as well. Gives the casting, can go with Perform (Oratory) if you don't want him to actually sing, and has all the necessary skills - Diplomacy, Intimidate, Bluff, Sleight of Hand, Appraise, etc. - for the ... errr... task at hand.

Sovereign Court

Crack open the old 3.5 Book of Nymphology and give him the Mystic Pimp class. I'm dead serious. It actually exists.


If he is in it for the money then bard... but another way to go would be to make him a priest of a love/lust god for a more "altruistic" type of NPC.


He could be a monk with fly clothing... Pimp slaps are definitely unarmed strikes. Also, pimp cane = quarterstaff or hanbo (from the AA), both monk weapons.

Edit: oops saw that you wanted some caster levels... I'd probably say bard or cleric of lust.

The Exchange

Monk/Bard the new Pimp


Also, there's always the gnoll pimp.


Don't forget ranks in Profession (second oldest)!

;p

DoD - Kev

Sovereign Court

The Mystic Pimp even has spellcasting levels added to it.

Shadow Lodge

Going to buck the trend, not because I disagree but to give you options.

Cleric of Calistria -> A CN cleric of Calistria can totally fill this role.

Alchemist -> Ok, more like a dope dealer than a pimp but there is some crossover ;)

Sovereign Court

Really? No one has said enchanter yet?

Dark Archive

My biggest concern with using bard is that I have already done a con artist npc that is a bard/rogue multiclass. I am afraid that it may be too much bard usage.

Super Genius Games

David Fryer wrote:
I am stating up an NPC pimp and I already know that he will have levels in expert, but I want him to have some caster levels as well. Which do you think is best, bard, enchanter, or illusionist?

You could always use the Hustler class from Solid! :D

Hustler Class

Hyrum.
Super Genius Games
"We err on the side of awesome."

The Exchange

HyrumOWC wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
I am stating up an NPC pimp and I already know that he will have levels in expert, but I want him to have some caster levels as well. Which do you think is best, bard, enchanter, or illusionist?

You could always use the Hustler class from Solid! :D

Hustler Class

Thats not a pimp thats a superpimp


I would go rogue and forgo the spellcasting if you've done that schtick before. You can focus on the "enforcer" aspect of pimpdom. Here's a build that has a little spell stuff but is straight rogue. You don't have to be a bard to lead, just to buff.

A Pimp Named Slickback
Rogue 5

Stats (20 point buy)
STR 12
DEX 18
CON 10
INT 12
WIS 12
CHA 15 (bump to 16 at level 8)

hp 32
AC 20 (15 touch)
Init +8

BAB +3 (melee +4, ranged +7)
Fort +2, Ref +9, Will +3
CMB +4, CMD 19

Rogue Talents:
Minor Magic (prestidigitation 2/day)
Major Magic (charm person DC 12 2/day)

Sneak Attack +3d6
Trapfinding
Evasion
Trap Sense +1
Uncanny Dodge

Feats
Improved Initiative
Weapon Finesse
Weapon Focus (rapier)
Dazzling Display (rapier)
(eventually, Leadership and Shatter Defenses)

Skills
Acrobatics +8
Appraise +9
Bluff +10
Diplomacy +10
Disable Device +10
Disguise +6
Escape Artist +10
Intimidate +10
Know: Local +5
Perception +9
Profession: Pimp +6
Sense Motive +9
Sleight of Hand +10
Stealth +9
Use Magic Device +10

Traits
Charming
Natural-Born Leader

Gear
+1 mithril shirt
+1 rapier
cloak resistance +1
ring protection +1
goblet of quenching (pimp cup, makes booze instead of water)
mage hand (gold medallions instead of an elf hand)
courtier's outfit
jewelry
brass knuckles
a wand or something to use UMD on

You don't need improved unarmed strike or anything, you usually want smacking the hos around to be nonlethal. You usually do it with sneak attack (hauling off and smacking someone talking to you counts) anyway, so that's like 1d3+1+3d6 pimp slap damage. Use the brass knuckles instead of expending a feat slot.

Dark Archive

David Fryer wrote:
I am stating up an NPC pimp and I already know that he will have levels in expert, but I want him to have some caster levels as well. Which do you think is best, bard, enchanter, or illusionist?

Barbarian/ rogue mutt.

Shadow Lodge

Hmm... I just realized that the monk is likely the best class for this because it's the only class that can pimp-slap all his whores in a single round. Monk is also the king of nonlethal damage which is important because you don't want to damage the merchandise.

Dark Archive

Given the nature of the profession, a class able to cure disease might be useful.

And the popularity of temples of Calistria as brothels makes more sense, all of a sudden...

Scarab Sages

In my mind, best class is fighter.

You got for mid str, dex, high int and some chr. Go for intimidate and smart combat tactics.

Let those hoes know who the man is *back smack*

Low to mid level heavy handed tactics and mid to high intimidate and smart moves.


Why can't there be more topics like this? :)


Paladin.

Seriously, you know exactly what your buying exactly what you are getting, the "ladies" (or whatever fancy he has for you) are going to be clean and the "ladies" will be well taken care of. So long as it isn't illegal in the land you are in he's good all the way around.

The Exchange

Abraham spalding wrote:

Paladin.

Seriously, you know exactly what your buying exactly what you are getting, the "ladies" (or whatever fancy he has for you) are going to be clean and the "ladies" will be well taken care of. So long as it isn't illegal in the land you are in he's good all the way around.

Just because it is lawful does not mean it would still be 'good' even if allowed.


Crimson Jester wrote:
Abraham spalding wrote:

Paladin.

Seriously, you know exactly what your buying exactly what you are getting, the "ladies" (or whatever fancy he has for you) are going to be clean and the "ladies" will be well taken care of. So long as it isn't illegal in the land you are in he's good all the way around.

Just because it is lawful does not mean it would still be 'good' even if allowed.

Nothing evil about it unless you mistreat people. Sex isn't a crime, and neither is commerce. The combination of the two isn't either.

What we have here -- is contracted labor. With reasonable pay, sick days, vacation days and a good working environment the paladin isn't doing anything wrong and neither is the prostitute.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I have a Paladin of Iomedae in my Curse of the Crimson Throne game who is the landlord of the brothel at Eels End.

The party will definitely be coming up against an Elf Pimp that they pressed for information once. "Nobody messes with Jackie Brown!"

Bard 5/Ex-Monk 4.

With a unique spell: "Summon B****es"

"Summons 1d3 human commoners, who are fiercely loyal to you."

"We love you Jackie!"


Abraham spalding wrote:
What we have here -- is contracted labor. With reasonable pay, sick days, vacation days and a good working environment the paladin isn't doing anything wrong and neither is the prostitute.

You missed the most important part. A paladin pimp is the only one that dare sample his own merchandise to make sure his ladies aren't too worn down to keep working. Why? Paladins are immune to ALL diseases. So go ahead, pally-pimp, make sure the merchandise is still intact!


DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

The party will definitely be coming up against an Elf Pimp that they pressed for information once. "Nobody messes with Jackie Brown!"

Bard 5/Ex-Monk 4.

With a unique spell: "Summon B****es"

"Summons 1d3 human commoners, who are fiercely loyal to you."

"We love you Jackie!"

Don't even need to be ex-monk, since Pathfinder removed the "non-lawful" requirement on Bards.

Aratex wrote:
Abraham spalding wrote:
What we have here -- is contracted labor. With reasonable pay, sick days, vacation days and a good working environment the paladin isn't doing anything wrong and neither is the prostitute.
You missed the most important part. A paladin pimp is the only one that dare sample his own merchandise to make sure his ladies aren't too worn down to keep working. Why? Paladins are immune to ALL diseases. So go ahead, pally-pimp, make sure the merchandise is still intact!

This is hilarious and brilliant. And perfectly within the rules as long as prostitution is not illegal. Pallypimp for laughs and win.


maybe some sort of enchater that can charm / enchant beautiful women so they work or him

Grand Lodge

Abraham spalding wrote:

Paladin.

Seriously, you know exactly what your buying exactly what you are getting, the "ladies" (or whatever fancy he has for you) are going to be clean and the "ladies" will be well taken care of. So long as it isn't illegal in the land you are in he's good all the way around.

Now that's a Paladin that I could play.

Dark Archive

Monk - flurry of blows to smack them hoes


can one take weapon focus backhand?

Dark Archive

Abraham spalding wrote:

Seriously, you know exactly what your buying exactly what you are getting, the "ladies" (or whatever fancy he has for you) ...

Halflings are all the rage in Shelzar this year.

Dark Archive

Frogboy wrote:
Why can't there be more topics like this? :)

Good question. :)

Shadow Lodge

Sorry guys, perhaps he can meet the literal definition and get in on a technicality but a paladin can not ever be a "PIMP".

Besides, no self respecting paladin's mount would EVER allow a purple saddle.


0gre wrote:

Sorry guys, perhaps he can meet the literal definition and get in on a technicality but a paladin can not ever be a "PIMP".

Besides, no self respecting paladin's mount would EVER allow a purple saddle.

Purple goes well with gold...dragons, that is...


0gre wrote:
Sorry guys, perhaps he can meet the literal definition and get in on a technicality but a paladin can not ever be a "PIMP".

I take it you've never watched "Doctor Detroit", then? ;-)

Shadow Lodge

hogarth wrote:
0gre wrote:
Sorry guys, perhaps he can meet the literal definition and get in on a technicality but a paladin can not ever be a "PIMP".
I take it you've never watched "Doctor Detroit", then? ;-)

Hehe, nice call :D


Anyone else thing cavalier could be a good pimp class? If he put some kick ass rims on his mount lets say? Definately the class most likely to have a pimpmobile.


Kolokotroni wrote:
Anyone else thing cavalier could be a good pimp class? If he put some kick ass rims on his mount lets say? Definately the class most likely to have a pimpmobile.

The paladin's mount is better. Paly's get intelligent mounts that also get spell resistance and the celestial template.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

The GameMastery Guide (printing now) contains an official stat block for a pimp.

Because YOU demanded it! ;)

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6

But are there brazen strumpets?

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Lemme check.

No.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Erik Mona wrote:

Lemme check.

No.

Did you actually count them?

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6

Erik Mona wrote:

Lemme check.

No.

Some team member you are!

Shadow Lodge

Is the pimp a Paladin?

Does he ride a lowered horse with a purple saddle?

Dark Archive

Erik Mona wrote:

The GameMastery Guide (printing now) contains an official stat block for a pimp.

Because YOU demanded it! ;)

Amazing. What a guy!


Erik Mona wrote:

The GameMastery Guide (printing now) contains an official stat block for a pimp.

Because YOU demanded it! ;)

YES!!!!


Abraham spalding wrote:
Kolokotroni wrote:
Anyone else thing cavalier could be a good pimp class? If he put some kick ass rims on his mount lets say? Definately the class most likely to have a pimpmobile.
The paladin's mount is better. Paly's get intelligent mounts that also get spell resistance and the celestial template.

Right...but a paladin as a pimp? I mean I am all for a little more flexibility in the moral code, and paladins not having to be sticks in the mud, but isn't pimp going a little far?

Dark Archive

I personally don't have any problem with a paladin pimp, although a cleric of Callastria or Idra works better for me.

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