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So Wil Wheaton has appeared on The Big Bang Theory twice now and I am really loving the way he has been portrayed. The rivalry between him and Sheldon as well as the way they are making him into a twisted evil mastermind is hilarious. I hope to see more of him on the show and would even like to see him get the lead in his own sitcom.

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So Wil Wheaton has appeared on The Big Bang Theory twice now and I am really loving the way he has been portrayed. The rivalry between him and Sheldon as well as the way they are making him into a twisted evil mastermind is hilarious. I hope to see more of him on the show and would even like to see him get the lead in his own sitcom.
FYI he's also in "season 3" of the Guild.

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David Fryer wrote:So Wil Wheaton has appeared on The Big Bang Theory twice now and I am really loving the way he has been portrayed. The rivalry between him and Sheldon as well as the way they are making him into a twisted evil mastermind is hilarious. I hope to see more of him on the show and would even like to see him get the lead in his own sitcom.FYI he's also in "season 3" of the Guild.
I'll have to look into that.

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Freehold DM wrote:I kept missing him at conventions. I heard he was a really nice, talented guy, if a little hard to work with.Can I ask where you heard that last part from? I've never heard that about Wheaton before.
This was a LONG time ago, at the first convention I went to EVER. 199x, at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York, New York. I more remember Brent Spiner being a jerk more than anything else, but I remember one of the guests at the con mentioning this quite clearly. Then again, I could just be having a senior geek moment.

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Rauol_Duke wrote:He's also going to have a guest spot in the upcoming season of Eureka.Eureka rocks. Erica Cerra needs to be Wonder Woman, if they ever get around to making that movie. :)
He also has a podcast called Memories of the Futurecast He reads chapters from his book. Its very funny and worth a listen.

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This was a LONG time ago, at the first convention I went to EVER. 199x, at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York, New York. I more remember Brent Spiner being a jerk more than anything else, but I remember one of the guests at the con mentioning this quite clearly. Then again, I could just be having a senior geek moment.
I imagine that might have had a lot to do with the fandom as well as Wheaton. If there were a significant portion of the fans devoted to the death of your character, you might be a jerk too. Still, I don't know the guy personally, but reading his works gives the impression that he's come a long way in coping with the whole sudden fame child actor thing. I highly recommend his writing. It won't change your world, but it's quite entertaining and funny, as well as amusingly self-deprecating.

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Freehold DM wrote:I imagine that might have had a lot to do with the fandom as well as Wheaton. If there were a significant portion of the fans devoted to the death of your character, you might be a jerk too. Still, I don't know the guy personally, but reading his works gives the impression that he's come a long way in coping with the whole sudden fame child actor thing. I highly recommend his writing. It won't change your world, but it's quite entertaining and funny, as well as amusingly self-deprecating.
This was a LONG time ago, at the first convention I went to EVER. 199x, at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York, New York. I more remember Brent Spiner being a jerk more than anything else, but I remember one of the guests at the con mentioning this quite clearly. Then again, I could just be having a senior geek moment.
It was damn shameful to see the haterage thrown his way when he was writing articles for Dragon simply because some people couldn't let go of their dislike of Wesley Crusher. I mean, hot damn, people. Wheaton himself told the producers to stop pushing Wesley onto the audience so much. What more do you want out of the guy?
Fandom gets pretty scary sometimes.

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James Martin wrote:Freehold DM wrote:I imagine that might have had a lot to do with the fandom as well as Wheaton. If there were a significant portion of the fans devoted to the death of your character, you might be a jerk too. Still, I don't know the guy personally, but reading his works gives the impression that he's come a long way in coping with the whole sudden fame child actor thing. I highly recommend his writing. It won't change your world, but it's quite entertaining and funny, as well as amusingly self-deprecating.
This was a LONG time ago, at the first convention I went to EVER. 199x, at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York, New York. I more remember Brent Spiner being a jerk more than anything else, but I remember one of the guests at the con mentioning this quite clearly. Then again, I could just be having a senior geek moment.It was damn shameful to see the haterage thrown his way when he was writing articles for Dragon simply because some people couldn't let go of their dislike of Wesley Crusher. I mean, hot damn, people. Wheaton himself told the producers to stop pushing Wesley onto the audience so much. What more do you want out of the guy?
Fandom gets pretty scary sometimes.
Will Weaton and Neil Patrick Harris should open a clinic for child stars on how to succsessfuly survive fan hatred and thrive.

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Freehold DM wrote:I imagine that might have had a lot to do with the fandom as well as Wheaton. If there were a significant portion of the fans devoted to the death of your character, you might be a jerk too. Still, I don't know the guy personally, but reading his works gives the impression that he's come a long way in coping with the whole sudden fame child actor thing. I highly recommend his writing. It won't change your world, but it's quite entertaining and funny, as well as amusingly self-deprecating.
This was a LONG time ago, at the first convention I went to EVER. 199x, at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York, New York. I more remember Brent Spiner being a jerk more than anything else, but I remember one of the guests at the con mentioning this quite clearly. Then again, I could just be having a senior geek moment.
Oh for a certainty! I loved his Wil Save articles!

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I was rooting for Riker to suffer a swift and irreversible death for about six of the seven years...
Wesley never bugged me, really, and I kind of like the whole Traveller thing. I kinda was hoping he, Sisko and Kes would hook up in whatever place ascended former Star Fleet people hang out. Maybe bump into the ghost of Gary Mitchell, while they're there. :)

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It was damn shameful to see the haterage thrown his way when he was writing articles for Dragon simply because some people couldn't let go of their dislike of Wesley Crusher. I mean, hot damn, people. Wheaton himself told the producers to stop pushing Wesley onto the audience so much. What more do you want out of the guy?Fandom gets pretty scary sometimes.
Star Trek fandom has a lot of ugly sides to it. Leonard Nimoy even had to write a book retraction of I AM NOT SPOCK from the hate he got from it. (personally I thought the title was great)

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I was rooting for Riker to suffer a swift and irreversible death for about six of the seven years...
Wesley never bugged me, really, and I kind of like the whole Traveller thing. I kinda was hoping he, Sisko and Kes would hook up in whatever place ascended former Star Fleet people hang out. Maybe bump into the ghost of Gary Mitchell, while they're there. :)
Mitchell kind of went to the other place. :)

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I more remember Brent Spiner being a jerk more than anything else, but I remember one of the guests at the con mentioning this quite clearly. Then again, I could just be having a senior geek moment.
What people have to remember about Spiner is that he's not fond of Trek and never has been. His performance as Data is more of an outgrowth of his comedy work than of any interest in the genre. I suspect that he rubs many people the wrong way because he doesn't share in fan enthuisasm (or at least doesn't fake it) the way most other Trek stars revel in it.

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Freehold DM wrote:I more remember Brent Spiner being a jerk more than anything else, but I remember one of the guests at the con mentioning this quite clearly. Then again, I could just be having a senior geek moment.What people have to remember about Spiner is that he's not fond of Trek and never has been. His performance as Data is more of an outgrowth of his comedy work than of any interest in the genre. I suspect that he rubs many people the wrong way because he doesn't share in fan enthuisasm (or at least doesn't fake it) the way most other Trek stars revel in it.
He even did a guest appearance on the Friends spinoff Joey that played on this aspect of his professional life. Very funny stuff.

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Is there any way I can jump on a Klingon ship, create a time/space anomaly, and make everything except seasons 1, 2, and half of 3 of TOS, Movies II, IV, and VI, and the new relaunch just disappear?
I sense a tremendous dislike of TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise within this one.

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Cuchulainn wrote:At least they got rid of Tasha Yar. That was one character that was going nowhere.From what I've read and seen, Wil seems a decent guy.
That being said. I wholly admit to being a fan who wished for (the character) Wesley Crusher to die horribly in a transporter accident.
They didn't get rid of her. The actress quit for a role in "Pet Cemetery".

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Erik Mona wrote:Agreed! DS9 is probably my favorite Star Trek (and I love 'em all)I'm unwilling to let your Klingon ship destroy Deep Space Nine, especially the last couple of seasons.
Sorry!
Really?
Enterprise?
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I agree with DS9. I've been rewatching it and it's only in the fifth season that I really started being impressed. And then suddenly, it gets really, really good after being hit and miss for a long time.
I disagree on Enterprise, though. I thought it was a good show, though it dared to not be the hopeful, everyone loves everyone Star Trek and went back to a more gritty, original series vibe. I was saddened when it was cancelled, since it was just starting to get its legs under it.

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I agree with DS9. I've been rewatching it and it's only in the fifth season that I really started being impressed. And then suddenly, it gets really, really good after being hit and miss for a long time.
I disagree on Enterprise, though. I thought it was a good show, though it dared to not be the hopeful, everyone loves everyone Star Trek and went back to a more gritty, original series vibe. I was saddened when it was cancelled, since it was just starting to get its legs under it.
Agreed. I think the problem with Enterprise was the falling back into the tired old 'cliche' stories, and it wasn't until the Enterprise X got into those 'historical' moments that we got good episodes. (The augments, Romulans, the two Mirror episodes, etc.)
That and they got screwed out of a finale episode.

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WIl Weaton is awesome. I try to follow Weaton's law whenever possible.
I liked Wesley when the show originally aired. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that I was about the same age as the character when it aired and I vaguely identified with the out of place intelligent kid. In retrospect some of the Wesley saves us all stuff was a bit ridiculous at time, but not all of it. Is it wrong that I was more interested about his character in the cameo in Nemesis then anything else that happened in that movie.
I also despised voyager until my wife insisted we start getting it on DVD. I hated Kim in chaokte and double hated seven of nine (I wasn't really watching much anymore at that point). On later viewings I found it growing on me and now I really enjoy it for the most part.
In general I like all the series though I haven't really seen any of Enterprise.

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Marc Radle wrote:Erik Mona wrote:Agreed! DS9 is probably my favorite Star Trek (and I love 'em all)I'm unwilling to let your Klingon ship destroy Deep Space Nine, especially the last couple of seasons.
Sorry!
Really?
Enterprise?
** spoiler omitted **
Heh ... Enterprise was not really that bad, especially the last few seasons. That said, I would probably put enterprise and Voyager more or less on even par at the bottom of my ranking.
The original Series was great simply because it WAS the original and it still holds up well even today.
DS9, for my money, was probably the best one - at least, it's the one I like the most.
Next generation comes in right behind DS9 and then it's pretty much a tie between Enterprise and Voyager.
Like I said, though, I'm a big Star Trek fan and I love each and every one (I just love some MORE :)

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LazarX wrote:He even did a guest appearance on the Friends spinoff Joey that played on this aspect of his professional life. Very funny stuff.Freehold DM wrote:I more remember Brent Spiner being a jerk more than anything else, but I remember one of the guests at the con mentioning this quite clearly. Then again, I could just be having a senior geek moment.What people have to remember about Spiner is that he's not fond of Trek and never has been. His performance as Data is more of an outgrowth of his comedy work than of any interest in the genre. I suspect that he rubs many people the wrong way because he doesn't share in fan enthuisasm (or at least doesn't fake it) the way most other Trek stars revel in it.
Thanks for this. Didn't know how much he hated Star Trek. Also, he was NOT FUNNY AT ALL at the con that year.

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Marc Radle wrote:Erik Mona wrote:Agreed! DS9 is probably my favorite Star Trek (and I love 'em all)I'm unwilling to let your Klingon ship destroy Deep Space Nine, especially the last couple of seasons.
Sorry!
Really?
Enterprise?
** spoiler omitted **
The DS9 concept was stolen off J. Michael Straczynski, so I have an intense dislike for the show. Except for the episode when the Farengi crash at Roswell which has very funny.
The pilot episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (DS9) aired just weeks before the debut of Babylon 5. Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczynski indicated that Paramount was aware of his concept as early as 1989, when he attempted to sell the show to the studio, and provided them with the series bible, pilot script, artwork, lengthy character background histories, and plot synopses for the first 22 episodes. Paramount passed on Babylon 5, but later announced Deep Space Nine was in development after Warner Bros. announced its plans for Babylon 5. Straczynski has stated on numerous occasions that he thinks Paramount may have used his bible and scripts as the basis for DS9's first season. On the subject of suing Paramount for infringement, Straczynski indicated he had no intentions to do so, and added:
That we have decided - for the best interests of all - to take a mature, 'let's move forward' approach does not mean that I have to pretend nothing happened. [...] It's on the level of 'Okay, YOU (Paramount) know what happened, and I know what happened, but let's try to be grownup about it for now,' though I must say that the shape-changing thing nearly tipped me back over the edge again. ..... The fact that the two shows were so similar at that time, one a nobody show from nowhere, the other bundled with the STAR TREK name, came within an inch of killing Babylon 5. That's one of the main reasons why it took nearly a period of four months [after the first pilot telefilm] before we finally got the go order for year one, after everybody crunched the ratings, and the demos, and decided to take a chance on it. And even THEN we were told, "The syndie market can't sustain two shows like this; you're gonna get creamed."

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I agree with DS9. I've been rewatching it and it's only in the fifth season that I really started being impressed. And then suddenly, it gets really, really good after being hit and miss for a long time.
I disagree on Enterprise, though. I thought it was a good show, though it dared to not be the hopeful, everyone loves everyone Star Trek and went back to a more gritty, original series vibe. I was saddened when it was cancelled, since it was just starting to get its legs under it.
For me, it was a couple of problems:

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For me, it was a couple of problems:
They were trying not to be "better" then the technology of The Original Series. Most people give the TOS a pass on the now "dated" technology because it was actually made in the Late 60s. (Same with the gender descrimination - since it really was forward looking at the time.)
By the time of Enterprise, I was really tired of Berman/Braga worldview. Voyager should not have been made, so Enterprise definitely should not have been made.
I can dig #2, if you don't like the guys, you don't like the guys. #1 was for me a nice nod to continuity that few movies and shows tend to do. Star Wars, for example, seems to have undergone a HUGE period of technological stagnation. Plus I like the fact that early Enterprise missions were more akin to cowboys and indian shows than sci-fi. I like my space rough and tumble.

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Lord Fyre wrote:Marc Radle wrote:Erik Mona wrote:Agreed! DS9 is probably my favorite Star Trek (and I love 'em all)I'm unwilling to let your Klingon ship destroy Deep Space Nine, especially the last couple of seasons.
Sorry!
Really?
Enterprise?
** spoiler omitted **The DS9 concept was stolen off J. Michael Straczynski, so I have an intense dislike for the show. Except for the episode when the Farengi crash at Roswell which has very funny.
** spoiler omitted **...
And thank you for this. I take issue with things like this, and I had NO idea this happened. I will look at DS9 through a different lens now, and while I am no fan of B5 or Stargate(Except MAYBE Universe), I will look at Straczynski's work through a different lens as well. It sounds like what happened was patently unfair, and I hope he changes his mind on suing.

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I won't comment on the truth of JMS' story, but it is ironic that Paramount did that to him (if it happened) since CBS essentially was accused of doing the same thing to Roddenberry with Star Trek/Lost in Space.
Edit: Bitter Enterprise thought... Enterprise is the only series that exists in the new movie canon. :-)

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I won't comment on the truth of JMS' story, but it is ironic that Paramount did that to him (if it happened) since CBS essentially was accused of doing the same thing to Roddenberry with Star Trek/Lost in Space.
Edit: Bitter Enterprise thought... Enterprise is the only series that exists in the new movie canon. :-)
Correct. Even The Original Series would have been overwritten by the destruction of the USS Kelvin. (As, Star Fleet changes from an Exploration service to a more overt Defense Force.)

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Matthew Morris wrote:Correct. Even The Original Series would have been overwritten by the destruction of the USS Kelvin. (As, Star Fleet changes from an Exploration service to a more overt Defense Force.)I won't comment on the truth of JMS' story, but it is ironic that Paramount did that to him (if it happened) since CBS essentially was accused of doing the same thing to Roddenberry with Star Trek/Lost in Space.
Edit: Bitter Enterprise thought... Enterprise is the only series that exists in the new movie canon. :-)
Great. Now I gotta watch the movie again when I go home. *sigh* ;-D

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Lord Fyre wrote:Great. Now I gotta watch the movie again when I go home. *sigh* ;-DMatthew Morris wrote:Correct. Even The Original Series would have been overwritten by the destruction of the USS Kelvin. (As, Star Fleet changes from an Exploration service to a more overt Defense Force.)I won't comment on the truth of JMS' story, but it is ironic that Paramount did that to him (if it happened) since CBS essentially was accused of doing the same thing to Roddenberry with Star Trek/Lost in Space.
Edit: Bitter Enterprise thought... Enterprise is the only series that exists in the new movie canon. :-)
You really want your head to explode? Did the events in First Contact and in Enterprise with the borg actually happen in this timeline? If they didn't, then did Cochran make it to warp on his own?