Hi Everyone!
In my short life as a RPG fan I been only playing Rolemaster.
I ve also done some live RPG those are fun but I cant find the time to be regular at that!
Well my latest character just died and I m looking for suggestions!
So far I've played a tiny faerie sorceress (cute pixie type, I based it on this book I read), a barbarian (celtic, blue body painting and all that) and my latest was a priestess of freya (druidess-priestess with animal companions)
Also I'm thinking of trying to influence the guys to change gaming system you sure die FAST in Rolemaster! Any suggestions/advice on the best gaming system? pros and cons kinda thing?
HELP PLEASE! :-)
Big Kiss
Jenny
PS: forgive english mistakes its my 2nd language (I m french)
Hi Jenny,
I would just peruse on of the PbP boards and look at some char profiles, and you will get plaenty of inspiration, he he.
Welcome aboard.
ThanX Eric that s a GREAT idea i will! :-)
Bonjour Jenny, and welcome to the Paizo boards.
You've done magic (sorceress), muscle (barbarian), and nature (druid). So, my suggestion is a rogue - someone sneaky so that maybe you can get away from being splatted so much. Or perhaps a fighter-type, like a ranger, that is more of an at-range type to let you hit. Rolemaster can be brutal.
Since you are on the Paizo site, I would have to ask - how about trying Pathfinder RPG? In case you didn't really know yet, it is an offshoot/upgrade of D&D d20 3.5 system. Right now, D&D has moved itself to version 4.0, which isn't really similar to 3.5/Patfinder anymore.
Some folks have found 4.0 to be a great start, especially if you are new to RPG's. But personally, I don't much care for the way the system is setup.
I find that Pathfinder, and 3.5 by extension, is more mechanically complete system, but it can be a little complex for a new person. On the other hand, I feel like that D&D 3.5 has some Rolemaster-like qualities, given how its been setup, so maybe it will be more comfortable than you think.
That's just my take, and it's by far the only opinion you'll find on here. Eric's right - peruse the boards and see what else you find. Generally, I think you'll find most folks want to be polite and helpful.
Bonjour Jenny, and welcome to the Paizo boards.
You've done magic (sorceress), muscle (barbarian), and nature (druid). So, my suggestion is a rogue - someone sneaky so that maybe you can get away from being splatted so much. Or perhaps a fighter-type, like a ranger, that is more of an at-range type to let you hit. Rolemaster can be brutal.
Since you are on the Paizo site, I would have to ask - how about trying Pathfinder RPG? In case you didn't really know yet, it is an offshoot/upgrade of D&D d20 3.5 system. Right now, D&D has moved itself to version 4.0, which isn't really similar to 3.5/Patfinder anymore.
Some folks have found 4.0 to be a great start, especially if you are new to RPG's. But personally, I don't much care for the way the system is setup.
I find that Pathfinder, and 3.5 by extension, is more mechanically complete system, but it can be a little complex for a new person. On the other hand, I feel like that D&D 3.5 has some Rolemaster-like qualities, given how its been setup, so maybe it will be more comfortable than you think.
That's just my take, and it's by far the only opinion you'll find on here. Eric's right - peruse the boards and see what else you find. Generally, I think you'll find most folks want to be polite and helpful.
Yeah, what he said. Thanks Alex.
Since you are on the Paizo site, I would have to ask - how about trying Pathfinder RPG? In case you didn't really know yet, it is an offshoot/upgrade of D&D d20 3.5 system. Right now, D&D has moved itself to version 4.0, which isn't really similar to 3.5/Patfinder anymore.
Some folks have found 4.0 to be a great start, especially if you are new to RPG's. But personally, I don't much care for the way the system is setup.
I find that Pathfinder, and 3.5 by extension, is more mechanically complete system, but it can be a little complex for a new person. On the other hand, I feel like that D&D 3.5 has some Rolemaster-like qualities, given how its been setup, so maybe it will be more comfortable than you think.
That's just my take, and it's by far the only opinion you'll find on here. Eric's right - peruse the boards and see what else you find. Generally, I think you'll find most folks want to be polite and helpful.
Marketing get this man a Job!
Welcome Jenny.
I'd recommend going with the sneaky, stabby too.
Bonjour Alex! :-)
ThanX 4 the long reply it sure helps a lot!
Someone sneaky sounds just PUUUUUUUUUURFECT for me! :-)
I actualli have this sneaky feline side 4 real so maybe it wuld fit me well!
I m very visual too so it was a great idea what both you and Eric said 2 look around the website: i got lots of ideas from lookin at pics!
Where i live there is a Gamer's World store like 2 blocks away from my place so I ll totally check out Pathfinder! wat wuld you say id the big dif between 3.5/pathfinder and the new 4.0?
Also maybe u know this: are we allowed to post pics on the messageboard? I wuld love 2 show some fantasy pics of mine but i m not sure if we are allowed to!
Big Kiss
Jenny
The diff in 4e from Pathfinder for me is Pathfinder allows for more Roleplaying, where 4e is based mostly around combat interactions
wat i like about RPG is the roleplaying part so 4.0 is NOT for me then!
ThanX 4 letting me know Chozyn! :-)
Also, Pathfinder is a seperate, but compatable game from 3.5. The folks here at Paizo took 3.5 and tweaked it into it's own game. So when you look there will be a lot of 3.5 books, but very few Pathfinder. Which just grabbing the pathfinder core book and beastiary will give you all the info you need to play, and not be as overwhelming as figuring out 30+ books.
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Well going from Rolemaster to something else will be a major change. I have played it and many other games and Rolemaster is a lot more rules heavy and more of a skill based instead of level based game. It still has levels so it is not a total skill based game it kind straddles the two types of games.
As for a character i agree with what you have played I would recommend a rogue type next to give that a try.
As for what is the best gaming system? Well it varies a lot honestly, it depends on your play style(heavy role playing, heavy combat, tactical combat, hollywood style etc) and the type of genre (fantasy, sci-fi, modern, horror etc). Most systems have good and bad points and most of them do certain styles and genres of gaming better or worse than others. So I will say there is no "best" system but there are some that are the best for certain game styles and genre's.
So with out knowing exactly what you like and if you are very new I doubt you yet know for sure what you will like either. :)
For fantasy after having tried about every gaming system there is, I keep coming back to DnD 3e/Pathfinder now as my fantasy game of choice. For Sci-fi I like Spacemaster(sci-fi version of Rolemaster if you didn't know).
So what I would recommend honestly is this. If there is a local gaming shop or something that hosts games or more gaming groups or a gaming club in your area. Go to them and try out as many games as you can. Give them a serious try, play for a few game sessions talk to others who play the games(cause how one person runs a game can have a big effect on how fun the game is). Just get your feet wet so to speak and try as many games as you can and just have fun.
Eventually you will find the games that best suit your gaming style for the genre's you like and be set. That honestly the best advice I can give.
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PS: forgive english mistakes its my 2nd language (I m french)
Como allez vous?
As you are French may I suggest Agone. It is French and I have played the English translation and found it brilliant. Simple system, quick to learn with great flavour (Medusa courtesan of Autumn anyone?). Given your range of characters you seem very concept driven and in some ways I wouldn't pick D&D (of any edition) as first choice for your new system*. Warhammer RP (1st or 2nd ed.) would being another good one - death rate somewhere between Rolemaster and D&D. Savage Worlds is a great system also if you like rules-lite. Having typed all that, I'll come back to Agone. Not sure about availability in France (assuming you are in France) but the English version is dirt cheap on eBay etc. If you looking for a modern setting then I would suggest Call of Cthulhu, Chill, or even Kult (1st or 3rd ed. - 2nd wasn't so good).
Luck and welcome,
S.
*This depends in part how you play your Rolemaster. If you play, "open door - fight things - next room" then D&D will be fine and not too much of a change in mindset. When I played RM (actually MERP) we tended to try to avoid combat like the plague due to, as you pointed out, death happening - lots. D&D is set-up to make combat "almost" (awaiting hideous flaming) focus of the game - the game designers intent shall we say, however, DM's can style the type of game how they choose.
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The diff in 4e from Pathfinder for me is Pathfinder allows for more Roleplaying, where 4e is based mostly around combat interactions
Slightly misleading comment, ALL editions of D&D are "based mostly around combat interactions". I would say that not until White Wolf released the "story teller system" was there a shift in some game designers towards hand-waving for combat rather than hard and fast rules.
If 4e is not for you, then neither will Pathfinder, 3.5e, 3e, 2e, 1e, OD&D, etc...
Just being honest here,
S.
Hello Jenny, welcome aboard,
Before picking another game, maybe you should make sure your group would be fine with switching games.
Not only the current GM but also the players.
The fact is that some players invest so much time and dedication to a character that they don't really want to switch for another.
Then, if they are OK, before picking a specific game, you should consider genres.
Some players are open to every genre, fantasy, sci-fi, modern, gothic or whatever, but some others prefer one single genre which fits their style.
However, when switching from a game to another, it is often better to switch genre too, so you avoid the competition between the two systems.
Once you figure out what genre would fit your group, then surely you will find many people here on the Paizo message boards to help you to pick the perfect game for you.
Remember, there are no bad games. Some are for you and some are not, that's all.
PS : Si tu as besoin d'aide pour des traductions, n'hésite pas.
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Slightly misleading comment, ALL editions of D&D are "based mostly around combat interactions". I would say that not until White Wolf released the "story teller system" was there a shift in some game designers towards hand-waving for combat rather than hard and fast rules.
If 4e is not for you, then neither will Pathfinder, 3.5e, 3e, 2e, 1e, OD&D, etc...
Just being honest here,
S.
Let's try to stay away from edition wars in a welcome thread.
4th Edition and Pathfinder/3.5 both have some strong points.
In my experience, 4th edition streamlines a lot and lowers the mortality rate of characters with things like second wind and the plethora of capable healing classes. It tends to play somewhat like a videogame, with powers which run on cooldowns being the focus of combat.
On the other hand, Pathfinder supports a wider variety of types of characters and more mechanics that deal with non-combat situations. This is my preferred system, but that's because as a DM, I don't mind undertaking more prep time for more complicated rules because I think that it's worth it.
Regardless, welcome to the boards! I think that the others who suggest a sneaky type of character are dead on, it will be a new archetype to roleplay and hopefully will keep you out of the foes' sights.
Slightly misleading comment, ALL editions of D&D are "based mostly around combat interactions". I would say that not until White Wolf released the "story teller system" was there a shift in some game designers towards hand-waving for combat rather than hard and fast rules.
S.
I wasn't being being misleading. I was giving a diff between the two systems, in my opinon, based off the OP's question. I answered the question as written. 3.5/Pathfinder allows for more non-combat roleplaying than 4E based on the rules provided.
Please read what I was answering before assuming my intent to mislead. ;)
For the record IMO the best ROLEplaying system ever was Amber... No Rolls whatsoever.
WOW! so many answers!
I gotta say u sure know how 2 make a newbie welcomed! :-)
I m really paying attention 2 all yur advices
Dark Mistress: yes I hape a Gaming World store closeby and they have regular games so I will check it out!
Stefan Hill: I m in Canada (montreal) not France! I m French Canadian!
Wat got me into RPG is actualli a total fluke this Artist (Monte Moore) did some artwork 4 me then I loved it right away!
I always love reading fantasy books, historical stuff (like series like ROME plus I have this close amazin friend who is into ancient history big time!) and fantasy TV/films
Wen I try RPG wat I really loved was playing exciting roles. Its funny I was reading in another board about guys playing girls in RPG, if that s good or not. wat surprised the group and the GM wen I played the 1st time was how I played a girl well ... like a girl! giggle
all this to say I guess i dont mind the rules of the game as long as I can really get into my character!
I think it will be a rogue: now I have 2 find a look (like I say i m VERY visual)!
Big Kiss
Jenny
oh and thanX Fake Healer about yur info on the pics thing
Another quick question: can we import our own avatar here or do we have to use the ones they give?
The only avatars you can use are the ones from the messageboards.
Of course it's not as good as if you could import your own avatar, but as there are many of them, you've got a chance to find something you like.
ThanX Seldriss! :-)
The only avatars you can use are the ones from the messageboards.
Of course it's not as good as if you could import your own avatar, but as there are many of them, you've got a chance to find something you like.
Also I'm thinking of trying to influence the guys to change gaming system you sure die FAST in Rolemaster! Any suggestions/advice on the best gaming system? pros and cons kinda thing?
As much as I like Rolemaster, d20 and all its heirs (like Pathfinder) are actually really good systems. If your DM/gaming buddies are house-rule fanatics, its a very flexible system and it 'hybridize' surprisingly well with Rolemaster.
Pathfinder has the advantage of having superior art. I know that's a big thing for me.
And if not, try to pick a race with a long soul departure?
'findel
For someone new to role playing, a rules light system would probably be your best bet. In my opinion, they are better for role playing as well. Pathfinder is still very combat focused.
However, your group is likely to be extremely resistant to change. Most people find a particular system then enjoy and stick with that.
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Slightly misleading comment, ALL editions of D&D are "based mostly around combat interactions". I would say that not until White Wolf released the "story teller system" was there a shift in some game designers towards hand-waving for combat rather than hard and fast rules.
If 4e is not for you, then neither will Pathfinder, 3.5e, 3e, 2e, 1e, OD&D, etc...
Just being honest here,
S.Let's try to stay away from edition wars in a welcome thread.
4th Edition and Pathfinder/3.5 both have some strong points.
Notice I included ALL D&D's and painted them with the same brush. If anything you should be pointing out I was implying D&D (choose your version) is a "hack'n'slack" RPG with little depth compared to some later RPG's....
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Slightly misleading comment, ALL editions of D&D are "based mostly around combat interactions". I would say that not until White Wolf released the "story teller system" was there a shift in some game designers towards hand-waving for combat rather than hard and fast rules.
S.I wasn't being being misleading. I was giving a diff between the two systems, in my opinon, based off the OP's question. I answered the question as written. 3.5/Pathfinder allows for more non-combat roleplaying than 4E based on the rules provided.
Please read what I was answering before assuming my intent to mislead. ;)
For the record IMO the best ROLEplaying system ever was Amber... No Rolls whatsoever.
Love Amber. But I still hold that your implication is misleading. D&D (and derivatives) are by their very concept "combat heavy". This isn't an attack on D&D just a statement of game design. Apologies if I came across as confrontational, it was not the intent.
To the OP. I still hold that D&D (any version) does not seem like the game that your style of play (from what little you have typed) will support very well. My opinion.
S.
I played all editions of D&D, and from what I understand about Rolemaster game system, I would recommend GURPS 3.5 or 4.0 as a good alternative.
And you can roleplay in any system (any edition of D&D, runequest, rolemaster, gurps, warhammer, etc)
I believe the debate is what mechanics better support your roleplaying, but in reality roleplaying should not rely on the system being used.
I would recommend GURPS 3.5 or 4.0 as a good alternative.
I would agree that G.U.R.P.S. is an excellent system, I would not wish it on any n00b.
Many moons ago I tried to convert a D&D 2e gamer to G.U.R.P.S. He told me he did not like the system because there were too many choices.
Of course, I bet you he is playing 3.5 now. Ah, the irony.
French! CDP better stay clear of this thread... ;)
Slightly misleading comment, ALL editions of D&D are "based mostly around combat interactions". I would say that not until White Wolf released the "story teller system" was there a shift in some game designers towards hand-waving for combat rather than hard and fast rules.
If 4e is not for you, then neither will Pathfinder, 3.5e, 3e, 2e, 1e, OD&D, etc...
Just being honest here,
S.Let's try to stay away from edition wars in a welcome thread.
4th Edition and Pathfinder/3.5 both have some strong points.
Notice I included ALL D&D's and painted them with the same brush. If anything you should be pointing out I was implying D&D (choose your version) is a "hack'n'slack" RPG with little depth compared to some later RPG's....
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Hackmaster beats them all!!! ~GRINS~
Welcome to the boards Jenny! *offers a welcoming cookie* Enjoy your stay here! :D
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Bonjour Jenny!
Mon français est un peu rouillé donc vous devrez me pardonner. Je suis curieux de savoir comment vous avez découvert Paizo? Je pense que jouer un coquin serait intéressant. Que pensez-vous?
Welcome to the boards Jenny! *offers a welcoming cookie* Enjoy your stay here! :D
+1 !!! We are glad to have you here. May you enjoy your stay.
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Jenny,
Are you looking (potential) for a game that is complete in one book or something you can expand (and perhaps need too) with supplements and add-ons? It does make a difference as to which RPG's would be good suggestions and which might not be so good.
You call yourself French rather than Canadian?
Cheers,
S.
You call yourself French rather than Canadian?
Je me demandais moi-même. Je suppose qu'elle appelle elle-même Québécois?
EDIT: You make an interesting observation.
French! CDP better stay clear of this thread... ;)
Grrrrrrr.........
i typically rotate between rogues and casters. with the occasional fighter thrown in.
Heh heh....Tirez mon doigt!
Yeah, what he said. Thanks Alex.
Marketing get this man a Job!
Thanks for the backup, fellas! :-)
As you can see, Jenny...many opinions here - a contentious, fun bunch here. I hope you find some helpful suggestions. Bonne chance!(Mon français - pas assez bon - is that right?)
3.5/Pf et Mon Droit!
Taking the cookie, pulling the finger and feeling VERY welcomed here!
Laurefindel: the art is important for me, I m very visual and love 2 "see" so I can imagine it better!
Urizen (who asked me in French what make me discover Paizo): I found Paizo by complete fluke online! like i said i m VERI visual I love looking at pics 2 get inspiration then I run across the paizo blog: i was like WOW, its HOT! love artists like Wayne Reynolds! C est comme ca que ca c est passé!
Stefan Hill: I guess I dont wanna have to buy like a million books at once. not a money thing but more a time thing (reading it all!) Ideally i like it when i play with people that know well the game! so far i ve been helped a LOT with all that has to do with rules. me i prefer to focus more on getting into the role of my character and really acting it out!
maybe there is a way to try Pathfinder online? can that be done?
Ton francais est un peu rouillé oui mais j'apprécie l'effort! :-)
Quand tu dis "coquin" j'imagine que tu penses à voleur (rogue) ... mais coquin veux dire "naughty" ... ce que je suis aussi, mais ca c'est une autre chose! et dans mon cas c'est coquine! :-)
Bonjour Jenny!
Mon français est un peu rouillé donc vous devrez me pardonner. Je suis curieux de savoir comment vous avez découvert Paizo? Je pense que jouer un coquin serait intéressant. Que pensez-vous?
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Hi Jenny, welcome to Paizo, I hope you enjoy your stay.
I would definitely recommend Pathfinder as an excellent RPG – and although I haven’t played Rolemaster, from what I hear you will probably find character survivability a bit greater in Pathfinder!
I would definitely recommend buying the core rule book and probably the Bestiary if you do want to try the system – and then that’s really all you need, no need to buy more books if you don’t want.
If the hard copy books are a bit pricey, you can buy them much cheaper in PDF format here at Paizo.com – the Core Rule book was (and I believe still is) available for $10 as a pdf! Which is crazy cheap.
If you want to try before you buy, here is the Pathfinder System Reference document. It really ahs all you need to make characters and play the game, although I would highly recommend getting the real books or at least the pdfs for the full experience – and the artwork!
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Also, if you wanted to play Pathfinder online, there are plenty of people running Play By Post games (both Pathfinder and other rulesets) here in the Play By Post section of the boards. You can go to that part of the board to check them out and get a feel for things if you like (I can recommend a few interesting games to look at there if you like).
If you’re interested in joining an online game, you can look out for threads asking for players in the Gamer Connection section of the forums, or post your own thread there asking to join a game.
ThanX Mothman 4 the suggestions and the link! :-)
I have a Gamers World store real close here so I ll check out the Core Book Hardcopy!
I ll also start thinking of my new character! I m thinking rogue even if my friend good Bruce wants me to play an Ice Sorceress ... you think its a message he's trying to send me? giggle
BTW I asked James (Sutter) from Paizo if it was okay to post links to pics he said he would love that so I ll be starting a new post with links to that!
If you can recommend me one of those Play By Post games for Pathfinder where the people would be open (and take it easy on) someone who is a big time NEWBIE! :-)
On the plus side I do try to be a GREAT roleplayer get into my character and all that!
Also, if you wanted to play Pathfinder online, there are plenty of people running Play By Post games (both Pathfinder and other rulesets) here in the Play By Post section of the boards. You can go to that part of the board to check them out and get a feel for things if you like (I can recommend a few interesting games to look at there if you like).
If you’re interested in joining an online game, you can look out for threads asking for players in the Gamer Connection section of the forums, or post your own thread there asking to join a game.
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Welcome Jenny! Hope you enjoy Pathfinder.
I can't take a look at the pics thread right now, as I am at work, but if I remember the name correctly, I think you also posted pics on the superiorpics.com forum as well...was that you?
Speaking of PBP campaigns, since there's nobody I know of in the area who plays, I need to join one. Maybe I'll make up a character this weekend.
Yes that was probably me! but watch out for fakes they are many out there using my pics!
some guys on this forum are smart! 2 make sure they where talking to the real me here they messaged me on my official facebook to double check! giggle
good move cuz with the internet u can never be too sure!
about the PBP i wuld love 2 join one 2 try out Pathfinder
but i wuld need a group who is very understanding about a newbie player
i m not even sure how u make a new character so far the guys i play with do all the rule stuff for me
Welcome Jenny! Hope you enjoy Pathfinder.
I can't take a look at the pics thread right now, as I am at work, but if I remember the name correctly, I think you also posted pics on the superiorpics.com forum as well...was that you?
Speaking of PBP campaigns, since there's nobody I know of in the area who plays, I need to join one. Maybe I'll make up a character this weekend.
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Jenny,
A rough hash of the rules can be found here. Though the PDF rulebook is only $10 US, so that is a good buy.
Aside... People actually like rollmaster? I've only heard horror stories.