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I have read the revision of the new characters. I think you all at paizo have done an excellent job. I am pleased you have listened to us. Im sure i'm not the only one nor the first one who suggested that the cure spells be added to the oracles list of spells known, but it is nice to see a suggestion i posted make its way into a revision.
I just have a quick question. In the description of the clouded vision curse for the Oracle, it says “at 10 level you gain blind sense out to a range o 30 feet. At 15 level you gain blind sight out to a range of 15 feet. I’m confused. Blind sense? Blind sight?
Are they the same? Are they different? thanks
Read pages 560-561 of the Core Rulebook, or a little over halfway down this page.
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PFRPG Bestiary 298:
Blindsense (Ex) Using nonvisual senses, such as acute smell or hearing, a creature with blindsense notices things it cannot see. The creature usually does not need to make Perception checks to pinpoint the location of a creature within range of its blindsense ability, provided that it has line of effect to that creature. Any opponent the creature cannot see still has total concealment against the creature with blindsense, and the creature still has the normal miss chance when attacking foes that have concealment. Visibility still affects the movement of a creature with blindsense. A creature with blindsense is still denied its Dexterity bonus to Armor Class against attacks from creatures it cannot see.
Format: blindsense 60 ft.; Location: Senses.
Blindsight (Ex) This ability is similar to blindsense, but is far more discerning. Using nonvisual senses, such as sensitivity to vibrations, keen smell, acute hearing, or echolocation, a creature with blindsight maneuvers and fights as well as a sighted creature. Invisibility, darkness, and most kinds of concealment are irrelevant, though the creature must have line of effect to a creature or object to discern that creature or object. The ability's range is specified in the creature's descriptive text. The creature usually does not need to make Perception checks to notice creatures within range of its blindsight ability. Unless noted otherwise, blindsight is continuous, and the creature need do nothing to use it. Some forms of blindsight, however, must be triggered as a free action. If so, this is noted in the creature's description. If a creature must trigger its blindsight ability, the creature gains the benefits of blindsight only during its turn.
Format: blindsight 60 ft.; Location: Senses.
If I could toss a question in here as well.....
By my reading, these would overlap correct ?
Example: at 16th level, I would have blindsight out to 15 feet, and blindsense for a further 15 feet, and darkvision out a further 30 feet.
Correct ?
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If I could toss a question in here as well.....
By my reading, these would overlap correct ?Example: at 16th level, I would have blindsight out to 15 feet, and blindsense for a further 15 feet, and darkvision out a further 30 feet.
Correct ?
Correct.
It simply means that the closer they get to you, the better your senses are. However the darkvision and blindsense would be "useless" for the first 15 feet, as blindsight would sense everything that darkvision or blindsense would.
Thanks Alizor ;)
However the darkvision and blindsense would be "useless" for the first 15 feet, as blindsight would sense everything that darkvision or blindsense would.
Not quite. Blindsense/sight isn't quite as versatile as darkvision. For example, you explicitly cannot read with blindsense/sight.
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However the darkvision and blindsense would be "useless" for the first 15 feet, as blindsight would sense everything that darkvision or blindsense would.Not quite. Blindsense/sight isn't quite as versatile as darkvision. For example, you explicitly cannot read with blindsense/sight.
Good point. But for most intents and purposes, you'll be using blindsight for close range stuff.
I mean, it's simply like saying that normal sight is "useless" versus darkvision (which it is... unless you're trying to look at somethings color or look in a mirror. AH NO REFLECTION).