| james taylor 876 |
Does anyone else think the cavalier could use a bonus for saves vs. Fear/Charm?
Ok so I’m currently playing a level 6 order of the sword Cavalier for our group’s campaign and I’m playing him as a bold and noble knight. Now I would not exactly call myself a veteran role player as I’ve only been playing for about 4 maybe 5 months and i have got to say I’m really enjoying playing with the class as it is.
My only real problem with the current incarnation is that the cavaliers will save is still quite poor. Now I don’t have to tell any of you how nasty fear/charm can be and currently this class really suffers against those affects. for the current campaign we had a 20 point buy which left me with a wisdom of 12 leaving me with a will save +5 as I chose this save over the others to get the by my honour bonus although for if I’d been of a different order id of only had +3. Now currently my cavalier is on a par with a fighter of the same level on saves vs. Fear however his save only increases and when we are both at level 20 the fighter will have a save of +12 (assuming he also has a wisdom bonus of +1) where as I have a general will save of +9 (although that would only be +7 for other orders) this may not look like allot at a glance but I believe it could make a big difference. I don’t think I’m asking for much for this class just a relatively minor buff that will make him more playable.
Also as a side note how does a character that lives by strict convictions and ideals have such a low will power?
Well what does everyone think?
| Grey Lensman |
Well, for the save vs. Fear end, the Cavalier does have his banner. The gives a starting save vs. Fear of +2 at level 5 and end up with a +5 at level 20.
The text does state it affects all allies, but I don't personally know any DM who will declare that a character is not on his own side (multiple personalities being an exception).
This one could use some clarification.
On a side note, wouldn't it be simpler for the Greater Banner ability to expand the save vs. Fear bonus to include charms and compulsion effects rather than adding a flat +2? It can be annoying to keep track of the bonuses, especially when other classes that can grant bonuses are in play.
This much to saves from Cleric buffs.
This number here is only for saves against fear.
This number here is for saves against charms and compulsions.
This much to hit.
This much to hit on a charge.
And we have a singing Bard in the party too! Get out the spreadsheet!