Lazaro
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After quite a tough competition between three muscular hunks for the honor of being the next ‘Conan The Barbarian,’ the role finally went to Jason Momoa. The losers are ‘Twilight’’s Kellan Lutz and ‘Supernatural’’s Jared Padalecki.
Mikaze
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After quite a tough competition between three muscular hunks for the honor of being the next ‘Conan The Barbarian,’ the role finally went to Jason Momoa. The losers are ‘Twilight’’s Kellan Lutz and ‘Supernatural’’s Jared Padalecki.
Concerns:
1. Can he act?
2. Does this Conan even look Cimmerian? (edit-Closer than Arnold, at a glance)
3. Can the writers actually do a real "Conan" Conan?
edit2-Hot damn, this guy's going to be in Song of Ice and Fire too!
| Urizen |
I'm not feeling it, either. But then again, we're looking at a photo for another setting. But I imagine that he'll probably go through the same body building and toning process that Hugh Jackman did for Wolverine.
EDIT: I'll give it a benefit of a doubt, though. A lot of people gave Daniel Craig crap when he signed up to be James Bond, but as far as I'm concerned, he's done very well with the role.
| Darkwolf |
I am pleased they didn't get another professional body builder to play the role. I mean, as much as I enjoy Conan the Barbarian, it really wasn't an accurate portrayal of Howard's creation. This guy has the height and can easily bulk up to a reasonable size. Yes, Conan was big and incredibly strong, but not in the same way as a 1% body fat Mr. Olympia. (I'm also reasonably sure Conan never shaved his body hair, but maybe that's just me...)
Anyway, I'm one of those Stargate fans who prefer the film to the series. So I have no idea how well the guy acts, but I hope he's good and has a good script. (and a rated R one as well. No more of this kid-friendly crap we got with Conan the Destroyer.) shudder
Edit: Also read the comments after the article... Conan the Sumerian... LOL.
| Tensor |
Jason Momoa.
If Jason Momoa:
o puts on 50 lbs more of muscle with <10% body fat
o gets a brain infusion to increase his IQ from (below?) 100 to greater than 120 (his eyes don't really spark with intelligence.. more like pot)
o stops wearing eye-liner
Then, he might be able to put up a passing imitation of Conan.
I'm not happy.
| Paul McCarthy |
This movie has stinker written all over it. Marcus Nispel, the director gave us such wonderful films as Pathfinder and the remake of Friday the 13th. The screenwriter, Thomas Dean Donnelly, gave us the duds Sahara and A Sound of Thunder.
Even if Momoa didn't have the acting chops to carry this off, a great director and a good story could do wonders. It's too bad, we waited all these years for a reboot of our favorite Cimmerian and this is the direction it's headed. Waiting with apprehension...
Benchak the Nightstalker
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8
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This movie has stinker written all over it. Marcus Nispel, the director gave us such wonderful films as Pathfinder and the remake of Friday the 13th. The screenwriter, Thomas Dean Donnelly, gave us the duds Sahara and A Sound of Thunder.
Even if Momoa didn't have the acting chops to carry this off, a great director and a good story could do wonders. It's too bad, we waited all these years for a reboot of our favorite Cimmerian and this is the direction it's headed. Waiting with apprehension...
I just had flashbacks to A Sound of Thunder......*shudder*
| seekerofshadowlight |
I am good with him as Conan, he seems more like the REH conan type then the old movies, which is what I want a REH conan, one that looks more like he was described in the books and acts more like it to. I watched him in stargate, he seems like a great fit to me, ya got to recall in the books Conan was not a body builder, his build is often described as panther like, leth and powerful, with speed and strength. As for bulking up he could a little, but he is not really a small man anyhow. Ya see him next to the other actors and he is a good size.
| Moro |
This is just a guess, but.... Is it not possible to work out and gain an extra few pounds of muscles if you work at it real hard? My guess is yes. You can. My 2cp.
Other than that, I have no clue as to who this guy is and what not, but he looks mean enough so I'm okay with it... :)
Yes, a person can work out and put on some muscle, however how that muscle appears is dependent upon the frame and overall build. This guy does not have a frame that could ever support an REH Conan-like build. Conan was built like a battle-scarred linebacker, not like a 6'5" Small Forward/underwear model.
If that is all the time and effort these people are going to put into the casting of the TITLE ROLE, then this movie is destined for suckitude.
| seekerofshadowlight |
Ok a few things here people really seem to have little clue how big REH's Conan was
REH gave his size just twice, once at the attack on Venarium when he was 15: REH described as standing 6 feet and weighing 180 pounds
Next he once stated that Conan and another of his characters, the crusader Cormac Fitzgeoffrey, were "physical doubles" at 6'2" and 210 lb
Now ya need to look at the time 6'2" was massive when most people where 5'6 or less.
So really he is very close to the REH Conan size, and a few folks where bulkier or taller then Conan, none where as strong however
| seekerofshadowlight |
I like most people who go see the new Conan movie have never read Howard's books and only know what Conan looks like are the Arnie the barbarian and Marvel comics version.
I am so sorry ya missed out on a good Conan, man I really am. The movies while fun was a pale pathetic thing next to the awesome that was REH Conan
Studpuffin
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Ok a few things here people really seem to have little clue how big REH's Conan was
REH gave his size just twice, once at the attack on Venarium when he was 15: REH described as standing 6 feet and weighing 180 pounds
Next he once stated that Conan and another of his characters, the crusader Cormac Fitzgeoffrey, were "physical doubles" at 6'2" and 210 lb
Now ya need to look at the time 6'2" was massive when most people where 5'6 or less.
So really he is very close to the REH Conan size, and a few folks where bulkier or taller then Conan, none where as strong however
He must be percieved as larger, however. My fear is that he's going to just end up being a joe-nobody compared to any other actors in the film. He needs to stand out iconically, Momoa will have a hard time pulling that off IMO. Its a matter of ratios in this case, all of the other actors they'll surround him with will likely be too tall.
| Tensor |
... ya got to recall in the books Conan was not a body builder, his build is often described as panther like, leth and powerful, with speed and strength. As for bulking up he could a little, but he is not really a small man anyhow. Ya see him next to the other actors and he is a good size.
Conan was once >stranded in the 20th Century<. During this time he >fought the leader< of a gang for control of the gang. He had a great line, "There is strength gained from repeatedly lifting iron, and then there is the strength gained repeatedly battling to the death." >Conan won.<
This does speak to your point that there is more to being Conan than just being a body builder. Conan is strong (big) and powerful; yet panther like with fast reflexes. It is this combination of physical prowess, and his intelligence that makes him a hero. He is a complete package.
(And he looks good in a >pimp suit<. Plus, he looks pretty bulked up >fighting these cops<.)
Incidently, here are his 1e stats:
Fighter: 13, Thief: 7
HP: 100
STR 18(90)
INT 14
WIS 10
DEX 18
CON 18
CHA 17
Check out his skills: fletcher, forester, gambler, hunter, sailor, trapper.
That is a very pragmatic list, and I think his more colorful skills have been edited out by the censor.
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But, in the haze of battle,
Conan is no gentleman pirate
-- but a barbarian from an age
undreamed of!
Crom!
| Kruelaid |
Xabulba wrote:I like most people who go see the new Conan movie have never read Howard's books and only know what Conan looks like are the Arnie the barbarian and Marvel comics version.I am so sorry ya missed out on a good Conan, man I really am. The movies while fun was a pale pathetic thing next to the awesome that was REH Conan
+1
Arnie was a good Conan, but he wasn't REH's Conan. I read all the Conan books before ever seeing any of the movies so while I was impressed by Arnie, he seemed like a stupid oaf compared to what I had imagined.
And Momoa will look a lot different than his dread wearing role in Stargate, of that we can be assured.
I'll give him the benefit of being open to what comes and then judge what I see.
Aberzombie
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I think this Momoa guy can look the part once the trainers are done with him. And maybe they can just give him contact lenses to change his eyes to blue.
Either way, I'll wait until I see a trailer and learn more about the plot before I decide whether or not I think the movie will suck or rock. If the story is no good, then the best actor in the world won't make a difference.
Misery
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Lazaro wrote:Too bad—I was hoping for Conan O'Brien. I hear he could use the work.Jason Momoa
... too soon, man. Too soon.
(mourns Conan O'Brien)
That said I'm keeping an open mind myself. Physically compared to what he's described, it seems to fit (although being a Supernatural fan the fact that Jared Padelecki got close but didn't get it saddens me somehow).
Dunno what they're going to do about the dreads though. Honestly I know a lot of you purists will want me dead but I'd be cool with them ditching the square hair cut. Yea it's kinda iconic and stuff ... but it looks stupid. It just does.
Also, for those who fear about his height, as stated there were people taller than him but not stronger. Plus just cast shorter people to make him look even bigger. Tah-dah, done.
| ChrisRevocateur |
Also, for those who fear about his height, as stated there were people taller than him but not stronger. Plus just cast shorter people to make him look even bigger. Tah-dah, done.
Exactly. A lot of people seem to forget that what the camera sees and reality honestly have almost no bearing to each other. Get shorter actors, and if really neccessary, make the sets a little smaller, and BOOM, suddenly we have a giant Conan if that's what you really want.
| Audrin_Noreys |
Casting for the new Conan must have been more of a nightmare in many ways than casting for the new Captain Kirk. Between the inaccurate, yet highly entertaining Schwarzenegger movie (note the singular) the REH novels, and the miscellaneous pop-culture incarnations of Conan it was impossible to cast an actor that would make I'd say even half the potential audience happy.
I honestly wasn't too thrilled the first few moments after I heard Momoa was cast. The idea grew on me when I though about it though. Their choice told me that the studio may be more interested in making something other than a Bryan Singer-esque Superman Returns (like if they had cast Roland Kirkenger)I just hope it's a good something.
| Darkwolf |
Vic Wertz wrote:Lazaro wrote:Too bad—I was hoping for Conan O'Brien. I hear he could use the work.Jason Momoa
... too soon, man. Too soon.
(mourns Conan O'Brien)
O'Brien may be getting a deal with FOX very soon.
That said I'm keeping an open mind myself. Physically compared to what he's described, it seems to fit (although being a Supernatural fan the fact that Jared Padelecki got close but didn't get it saddens me somehow).
Dunno what they're going to do about the dreads though. Honestly I know a lot of you purists will want me dead but I'd be cool with them ditching the square hair cut. Yea it's kinda iconic and stuff ... but it looks stupid. It just does.
Also, for those who fear about his height, as stated there were people taller than him but not stronger. Plus just cast shorter people to make him look even bigger. Tah-dah, done.
Wait, what? You think dreads don't look stupid? Mmmmkay. Anyway, someone here already said the man has cut off the dreads. So, non-issue.
Also, I don't think anyone is actually concerned about his height. Dude is 6'5". Arnie was 6'2" at the most. the concern is his bulk, which is easy(ish) to increase.
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny
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Xabulba wrote:I like most people who go see the new Conan movie have never read Howard's books and only know what Conan looks like are the Arnie the barbarian and Marvel comics version.I am so sorry ya missed out on a good Conan, man I really am. The movies while fun was a pale pathetic thing next to the awesome that was REH Conan
Seconded.
Whited Sepulcher
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Misery wrote:Exactly. A lot of people seem to forget that what the camera sees and reality honestly have almost no bearing to each other. Get shorter actors, and if really neccessary, make the sets a little smaller, and BOOM, suddenly we have a giant Conan if that's what you really want.
Also, for those who fear about his height, as stated there were people taller than him but not stronger. Plus just cast shorter people to make him look even bigger. Tah-dah, done.
Yeah, they do that all the time with Tom Cruise. *rimshot*
| Urizen |
ChrisRevocateur wrote:Yeah, they do that all the time with Tom Cruise. *rimshot*Misery wrote:Exactly. A lot of people seem to forget that what the camera sees and reality honestly have almost no bearing to each other. Get shorter actors, and if really neccessary, make the sets a little smaller, and BOOM, suddenly we have a giant Conan if that's what you really want.
Also, for those who fear about his height, as stated there were people taller than him but not stronger. Plus just cast shorter people to make him look even bigger. Tah-dah, done.
Fixed that for you.
| Darkwolf |
IDK, Heathansson. Maybe the reason I have no concern for this is because the first Conan film really wasn't that great. I mean it was an awesome Sword & Sorcery film, but it wasn't accurate to the source material at all. So IMO this is a chance to do it better.
It's not like Spiderman where they are rebooting a successful series for no real reason besides 'we can'.
I realize that some people may not have read Howard's stories and the only Conan they have is Arnie, but that doesn't change that fact that it's a mediocre depiction of the iconic barbarian, at best.
Huzzah for the new Conan the Barbarian, Huzzah for bare breasted buxom wenches and Huzzah for battlefields running red with the blood of the weak and wicked.
| Kruelaid |
BTW, the guy already has some muscles. Lose a little body fat, bulk up a little (6 months with a personal trainer and he's gonna look ripped).
I just don't get why anyone is concerned over this guy. Arnie was an outrageous distortion of REH's Conan.
God I hope they can make this guy move like a jungle cat, cuz that's I expect from Conan.
I've seen bodybuilders fight... biomechanically they just can't do it. The muscles are slow, they lumber... it sucks.
If I were worried about anything here I'd worry about writing (#1) and directing (#2).