Hey - I submitted my item and it "said 'error" and would not accept my request. Please let it be noted that I submitted this item before the required time. I will be inaccessible for the rest of afternoon and only able to re-submit this evening. I am hoping that the contest will accept this submission since I did submit the item in time. Thank you for your help and I hope the system works this evening.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you dont wait until the 11th hour to submit.
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Thanks but that wasn't helpful sir.
But Gary's directions should be...
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you dont wait until the 11th hour to submit.Thanks but that wasn't helpful sir.
How right you are! I was not trying to be helpful.
I was trying to point out, as an object lesson, that waiting until the last minute of a month long contest to submit an item is fraught with peril and one should not do it. Hopefully the OP here will not become the poster child for the missed submission because of waiting till the end and having a technical glitch.
I certainly hope this particular submission went through so it can be considered. But If you wait till the end to submit and then are "not available the rest of the day" then probably you should not have waited to submit.
Luckily Gary gave instructions that may help.
But again, this contest is like a job interview. People need to be reminded about that, it seems. If I have a print turnover deadline and am waiting on you for changes and something has to go to the printer, emailing me that you had it all done but couldnt send it but that I should note that you had it done in time doesnt help me at all. I need to actually have your changes to me. I wont be anxious to use that freelancer again to do work because they are not reliable.
Gary to the rescue!
Betcha Gary eats a few innocents to make up for this momentary lapse in ... something. :P
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you dont wait until the 11th hour to submit.Thanks but that wasn't helpful sir.How right you are! I was not trying to be helpful.
I was trying to point out, as an object lesson, that waiting until the last minute of a month long contest to submit an item is fraught with peril and one should not do it. Hopefully the OP here will not become the poster child for the missed submission because of waiting till the end and having a technical glitch.
I certainly hope this particular submission went through so it can be considered. But If you wait till the end to submit and then are "not available the rest of the day" then probably you should not have waited to submit.
Luckily Gary gave instructions that may help.
But again, this contest is like a job interview. People need to be reminded about that, it seems. If I have a print turnover deadline and am waiting on you for changes and something has to go to the printer, emailing me that you had it all done but couldnt send it but that I should note that you had it done in time doesnt help me at all. I need to actually have your changes to me. I wont be anxious to use that freelancer again to do work because they are not reliable.
Your comments are on the excessive side. Unnecessary. While there is certainly truth to your words, and I understand where you are coming from (in fact you are completely right), I posted in need of help - that was the point of the post. I am not in need of an object lesson. I shared your comments with peers and they agree. Your additional response was slightly too harsh.
On the other hand, I appreciate VERY MUCH Gary's humble and helpful response.
Your comments are on the excessive side. Unnecessary. While there is certainly truth to your words, and I understand where you are coming from (in fact you are completely right), I posted in need of help - that was the point of the post. I am not in need of an object lesson. I shared your comments with peers and they agree. Your additional response was slightly too harsh.
On the other hand, I appreciate VERY MUCH Gary's humble and helpful response.
Wow, this thread is just one object less after another. I appreciate your willingness to condense "teaching moments" into one nice concise thread. Well done!
I am not in need of an object lesson.
Maybe not -- although leaving your submission until almost literally the last minute says otherwise -- but object lessons are not for the person who features in them, they're for other people.
Wow, this thread is just one object less after another. I appreciate your willingness to condense "teaching moments" into one nice concise thread. Well done!
Or, to put it another way: you do not need the object lesson. Clark was (and is) pointing out that you are the object lesson.
Describing someone who has done you a favour as being "humble" is also quite condescending, but that may just have been poor word choice on your part.
In any event, teaching moments aside, good luck with your submission now that Gary has it all straightened out for you!
I am not in need of an object lesson.Maybe not -- although leaving your submission until almost literally the last minute says otherwise -- but object lessons are not for the person who features in them, they're for other people.
What is your problem? I had a problem and Gary solved it and was helpful. I am sure you have better things to do than harass me for my lack of consideration for submitting late when in fact - I submitted on time and it was a system error, not my error. So please kindly refrain from being a jack----.
Wow, this thread is just one object less after another. I appreciate your willingness to condense "teaching moments" into one nice concise thread. Well done!Or, to put it another way: you do not need the object lesson. Clark was (and is) pointing out that you are the object lesson.
Describing someone who has done you a favour as being "humble" is also quite condescending, but that may just have been poor word choice on your part.
"Humble" was in fact a genuine use of the term, only condescending in your own mind. I will gladly give Gary my cell phone number right now and relay that to him. When I said humble I was being genuine because he did not do anything but provide a helpful and simple response.
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I'd just like to remind everyone that, should your item be selected as one of the top 32, you will progress to subsequent round based on the community's votes. While I like to think everyone is objective when submitting ballots, I'm also not that naive. Hopefully name-calling, insults, and generally unpleasant behavior decrease as a result of contestants not wishing to make enemies over the next few months. But who'm I kidding? This is the internet, after all.
I submitted on time and it was a system error, not my error.
See, that is the object less we are discussing (at your expense, yes). This idea that "its a system error, not my error."
It is your error. This is the point you need to comprehend, and that is serving as an example for others.
You did not submit on time. By contest rules, as stated clearly in the FAQ:
"Entries must be received before 2PM PST on January 1, 2010 (though you should consider submitting earlier than the last minute, in case something delays or prevents you from submitting before the deadline)."
See, received. Not just submitted. They actually have to GET your submission and you are responsible for delivering it in a timely fashion that make sure they do. And, with Nostradamus-like powers of prescience, there is even a little parenthetical about exactly your issue.
You have to account for this stuff in life. If you didnt get it because Gary wouldnt have been at work or on the boards over this holiday you would NOT have gotten in. That would have been YOUR mistake. No, you would NOT have been saved or given a pass or allowed to get in late. If it wasnt for Gary you would be OUT.
We arent being d**ks to you, we are simply using you as an unfortunate example that we didnt create. And the mindset you are displaying is one that I want to point out needs to change. You may not like hearing that. I appreciate that. You may not like being used as an example. I appreciate that too. But there it is.
I am encouraging you, and others, to take a more successful approach in the future.
I'd just like to remind everyone that, should your item be selected as one of the top 32, you will progress to subsequent round based on the community's votes. While I like to think everyone is objective when submitting ballots, I'm also not that naive. Hopefully name-calling, insults, and generally unpleasant behavior decrease as a result of contestants not wishing to make enemies over the next few months. But who'm I kidding? This is the internet, after all.
I agree Yoda, trust me. Please review the thread and understand that my intention is to simply submit a creative idea and hope for the best. I don't appreciate other commenters who have nothing to do with my tech question harassing me on the board. I think a review of the comments above would reveal that.
In regards to the OP's lateness in submitting his/her work, we don't really know what Saradoc's story is. I'm assuming that a lot of us have lives and families (beyond RPGs) that demand a great amount of attention. For all I know, Saradoc learned of the contest only recently. I stumbled upon it by accident myself.
In regards to this being a job interview--personally it's a labor of love, and I have no intention of making a living at it. You can call it a job interview if you like, but to me it's still a contest. Furthermore in my experiences of applying for work as a digital animator and graphic artist, I have never seen a situation where the potential employer in question had the right to keep my submitted material even if I wasn't given the position. If I recall, that is the case here (correct me if I'm wrong). That at least, calls for a modicum of graciousness.
Sorry. I had to voice my opinion, even if it nixes my chances at this contest. I have serious problem with patronizing attitudes.
Thank you - thank you-thank you.
Clark, please quit while you are ahead.
In regards to this being a job interview--personally it's a labor of love, and I have no intention of making a living at it. You can call it a job interview if you like, but to me it's still a contest.
Then, to be blunt, you probably shouldn't have entered. The contest is for people who want to get their foot in the door writing for Paizo. If you don't want the prize, why are you entering?
Furthermore in my experiences of applying for work as a digital animator and graphic artist, I have never seen a situation where the potential employer in question had the right to keep my submitted material even if I wasn't given the position.
This is because you don't submit material to job applications, you show them your resume and portfolio. RPG Superstar isn't a portfolio, nor is it a resume. It's a contest. I have never seen a contest that involved submitting original works where the company running the contest did not assume the rights to use and reproduce the submissions. For the closest industry example, go look up the rules for the Wizards of the Coast contest that produced the Eberron Campaign Setting; WotC kept the rights to all of the submissions and specifically warned people against submitting campaign settings that they wanted to publish themselves.
Your entry is in.
Thanks Gary - much appreciated.
I want to discuss professional behavior. When you agree to do something, you do it on time, you do it well, and you follow instructions. When I wrote No Plunder No Pay, my wife and I were expecting our first child. To my abject horror, and in the middle of the writing process, he was born at 5 months, he lived for an hour and a half, he died in my arms. I grieved, I felt immense joy at meeting my son and holding him, but i was crushed that he was going to die. Now what I did after that was I completed my assignment...on time. I did not ask for an extension, I did not blame others, I did not delay. I used every ounce of my being and dedicated my writing to my son. Now every time I read No Plunder, No Play I know that my son Jacob helped me through it. I also believe that being able to focus my energies gave me strength. I want people to understand what "is going on in your lives" is not an excuse. We can either move forward, or we can stop, but WE control what WE chose to do. Here is my point. If I wait till the last moment, I assume the risk of computer error, its even stated in the rules and was brought up on the board several times as a "please avoid, we do not want you to miss out". If you still chose to wait, and you risked missing the deadline, how is that NOT YOUR fault?
Clark, please quit while you are ahead.
Dude. You're arguing with a judge. Publicly! If anyone should quit while they're ahead...well, look in the mirror. Please. For your own sake.
Just my two-cents,
--Neil
P.S. Gary himself admonished all potential contestants about risking a "system error" while submitting at the last moment. He really came through for you. But you have essentially demonstrated the exact point he made to everyone.
Clark, please quit while you are ahead.Dude. You're arguing with a judge. Publicly! If anyone should quit while they're ahead...well, look in the mirror. Please. For your own sake.
Just my two-cents,
--NeilP.S. Gary himself admonished all potential contestants about risking a "system error" while submitting at the last moment. He really came through for you. But you have essentially demonstrated the exact point he made to everyone.
The problem is that Clark calls me out publicy and makes me an object lesson. That's not cool. I just needed help. This is getting into harassment territory and I am sending a letter of complaint.
The problem is that Clark calls me out publicy and makes me an object lesson. That's not cool. I just needed help. This is getting into harassment territory and I am sending a letter of complaint.
::faceplam:: (again!)
Dude. (why do I keep having to say that?)
You made yourself the object lesson. Clark called it out for everyone else to learn from it. You've already learned the lesson by living it. Let it go.
Sits back. Bartender, I'll have a beer with this!
Okay, this thread is getting too hot. We need a smurfjacking!
Okay, this thread is getting too hot. We need a smunfjacking!
Don't interfere with my morbid amusement.
Sits back. Bartender, I'll have a beer with this!Oh, Kruelaid! Been a while since I saw you around. How are things going over there with you and your family? No more food-poisoning, I hope... :-?
Nah but my poison episode set off an ugly allergy problem. I'm getting over it. All good.
The problem is that Clark calls me out publicy and makes me an object lesson. That's not cool. I just needed help. This is getting into harassment territory and I am sending a letter of complaint.::faceplam:: (again!)
Dude. (why do I keep having to say that?)
You made yourself the object lesson. Clark called it out for everyone else to learn from it. You've already learned the lesson by living it. Let it go.
Dude. (why do I keep having to say that?)
Listen. DUDE. Get a grip on reality. Everyone here has a different level of involvement in the game. I simply needed help. Gary helped. End of story. No need for me to let it go when you are the one keeping it going.
Hey Kruelaid u still in China? my Wife and I are going there in Feb/March. Any suggestions?
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Okay. I'm done.
I no longer enjoy being in China during Chinese New year. It's chaos. Stores full. No taxis. And for one week they blow off fireworks at night.
The wife and I pack up and go to the Philippines and enjoy the tropics (that's where she's from).
Kruelaid, I'd give you one of the homebrews I'm drinking, but I don't think my modem can handle high grav. ;)
CHEERS!
Clark, please quit while you are ahead.
My work here is done.
Hey Kruelaid u still in China? my Wife and I are going there in Feb/March. Any suggestions?
Be careful when u arrive. Lunar new year holiday is in February and it seriously messes things up. Other than that, I'd suggest places south, anything north of Shanghai may have cold weather.
Expect cool rain in the south. Guilin is gorgeous when it rains. 3 gorges dam is amazing. Any town you hit will have a score of historical stopovers.
If you do go north, see the Great Wall. BUT, the best view of the great wall is not necessarily from Beijing. If you do go to Beijing, go during the work week, avoiding Chinese holidays like the plague.
The Chinese are their own best tourists, so you don't want to make any moves while they are touring. If you go in march school is in, and families are all back at it. Things should be mellow.